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rolex32000 · 23 February 2008, 01:26 AM

Hey guys, I'm Matt. New to the Rolex world. I've been doing research for quite sometime into various DateJust's & yesterday I purchased a pre-owned one from Sumpter's, in Charlotte, NC. It's a SS w/ 18k white gold fluted bezel, jubilee bracelet, w/ a tapestry stick dial. We had removed the band prior to purchased & noted it was a 16234 with an F serial number. Apparently this watch was made in 2003-2004 range. Jeweler was asking $3675, but I walked out the door for $2900 + tax. Looks to be in beautiful shape & seems extremely understated & classy. I did not have the caseback taken off, as everything else seemed status quo with the watch & I believe Sumpter's has been in business for quite sometime. In any event, I'm a bit concerned with the fact that I cannot locate the micro-etched crown on the lower half of the crystal. I've read around that this feature was instituted sometime in 2002, however I've also read notes that there may be some 2003 or 2004 watches that do not have this feature. I am not sure what to think. I have used a magnifying piece to try & locate, but without any success. Any thoughts? I doubt I was duped, but you never know. Thanks in advance.

- Matt

nko51 · 23 February 2008, 01:34 AM

The etched crown is sometimes hard to see, you need at least a 10X loupe preferrably a 20X, proper lighting and tilting of the crystal at the base of the 6 o'clock position to spot the crown etching.

Peter Messmore · 23 February 2008, 01:36 AM

Matt,I am not sure if the DJ came with the LEC,some of the other sports models do,started early 2000.Someone else will come along to help more,Peter

Ed Rooney · 23 February 2008, 01:37 AM

I think it should have the crown. It took me about a week to find it on my D-serial sub. My y-serial sub and ladies DJ (older than your F) had it.

If it is sunny, point the 12 o'clock coronet at the sun, then tilt it down a bit (10-20 degrees) until the sun hits it just right. It will usually pop out. It is very tricky to see for the first time. It's easier to see on the fakes.

Post a pic!

CPCC · 23 February 2008, 01:47 AM

Congrats and welcome. Now for some pictures please......

S/SOnly · 23 February 2008, 01:55 AM

Love the Tapestry... Congrats on a fine time piece.

Wear it in good health and spirit!

egzbuen · 23 February 2008, 02:22 AM

congrats, pics please

rolex32000 · 23 February 2008, 02:36 AM

Thanks guys. I found the crown finally, extremely small! Here's some pictures I've attached. Just grabbed a buddy's camera, apologize for the picture quality ahead of time.

- Matt

Tools · 23 February 2008, 02:50 AM

Good looking watch..

I can see why you had trouble finding it against that white tapestry dial..

Most folks do not realise exactly how tiny it really is..........glad you are now assured

SPACE-DWELLER · 23 February 2008, 03:33 AM

Welcome to TRF!

Gorgeous DJ!

Thanks for sharing the pics!

cocopeep · 23 February 2008, 08:41 AM

Wow, looks nice for the price!

JBat · 23 February 2008, 09:43 AM

Good looking DJ, Matt. I had the same trouble finding the LEC on my GMT when I first got it. One good way is to take a macro shot of it with a camera.

Welcome to TRF!

rolex32000 · 23 February 2008, 08:22 PM

Thanks gents! Appreciated.

- Matt

23 February 2008, 01:26 AM	#1
rolex32000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft. Laud, FL Posts: 11	Question about newly purchased DJ Hey guys, I'm Matt. New to the Rolex world. I've been doing research for quite sometime into various DateJust's & yesterday I purchased a pre-owned one from Sumpter's, in Charlotte, NC. It's a SS w/ 18k white gold fluted bezel, jubilee bracelet, w/ a tapestry stick dial. We had removed the band prior to purchased & noted it was a 16234 with an F serial number. Apparently this watch was made in 2003-2004 range. Jeweler was asking $3675, but I walked out the door for $2900 + tax. Looks to be in beautiful shape & seems extremely understated & classy. I did not have the caseback taken off, as everything else seemed status quo with the watch & I believe Sumpter's has been in business for quite sometime. In any event, I'm a bit concerned with the fact that I cannot locate the micro-etched crown on the lower half of the crystal. I've read around that this feature was instituted sometime in 2002, however I've also read notes that there may be some 2003 or 2004 watches that do not have this feature. I am not sure what to think. I have used a magnifying piece to try & locate, but without any success. Any thoughts? I doubt I was duped, but you never know. Thanks in advance. - Matt

23 February 2008, 01:34 AM	#2
nko51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Alex Location: USA Watch: TT Blue Sub Posts: 2,542	The etched crown is sometimes hard to see, you need at least a 10X loupe preferrably a 20X, proper lighting and tilting of the crystal at the base of the 6 o'clock position to spot the crown etching. __________________

23 February 2008, 01:47 AM	#5
CPCC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: USA Posts: 1,857	Congrats and welcome. Now for some pictures please...... __________________

23 February 2008, 01:55 AM	#6
S/SOnly "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Desert Watch: GMT II RN Posts: 339	Love the Tapestry... Congrats on a fine time piece. Wear it in good health and spirit! __________________ 904L..... Clean, Simple, Durable....

23 February 2008, 02:36 AM	#8
rolex32000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft. Laud, FL Posts: 11	Thanks guys. I found the crown finally, extremely small! Here's some pictures I've attached. Just grabbed a buddy's camera, apologize for the picture quality ahead of time. - Matt Attached Images

23 February 2008, 01:36 AM	#3
Peter Messmore Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Delray Bch,FL,USA Posts: 341	Matt,I am not sure if the DJ came with the LEC,some of the other sports models do,started early 2000.Someone else will come along to help more,Peter

23 February 2008, 01:37 AM	#4
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	I think it should have the crown. It took me about a week to find it on my D-serial sub. My y-serial sub and ladies DJ (older than your F) had it. If it is sunny, point the 12 o'clock coronet at the sun, then tilt it down a bit (10-20 degrees) until the sun hits it just right. It will usually pop out. It is very tricky to see for the first time. It's easier to see on the fakes. Post a pic!

23 February 2008, 02:22 AM	#7
egzbuen "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manila Posts: 1,177	congrats, pics please

23 February 2008, 02:50 AM	#9
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Good looking watch.. I can see why you had trouble finding it against that white tapestry dial.. Most folks do not realise exactly how tiny it really is..........glad you are now assured __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

23 February 2008, 03:33 AM	#10
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Welcome to TRF! Gorgeous DJ! Thanks for sharing the pics! __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

23 February 2008, 08:41 AM	#11
cocopeep "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: PA Watch: DJ 116234 Posts: 510	Wow, looks nice for the price!

23 February 2008, 09:43 AM	#12
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	Good looking DJ, Matt. I had the same trouble finding the LEC on my GMT when I first got it. One good way is to take a macro shot of it with a camera. Welcome to TRF!

23 February 2008, 08:22 PM	#13
rolex32000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft. Laud, FL Posts: 11	Thanks gents! Appreciated. - Matt

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