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nd4me · 8 February 2014, 09:12 AM

hi guys,, my brother just bought a new sub two tone, and i notice the bezel has dots between each number anyone know if its a new thing?
using always seen a line on 1 then small lines to 3 then line 5 7 9 11,,, this new one has small lines in between the reast all arround the bezel

thanks

topcat30093 · 8 February 2014, 09:26 AM

I believe from what I have heard and seen, that is the new style of beze.

Though, I don't think that it is fitted to all models.

There was an article of this very subject on the forum a short while ago.

nd4me · 8 February 2014, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topcat30093

I believe from what I have heard and seen, that is the new style of beze.

Though, I don't think that it is fitted to all models.

There was an article of this very subject on the forum a short while ago.

thanks,,thats what we were told,, frankly , I dont like it, looks too busy, he just went back and they gave him the other one .
he had not notice till he got home thinking he got what he saw in the showcase.
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nd4me · 8 February 2014, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topcat30093

I believe from what I have heard and seen, that is the new style of beze.

Though, I don't think that it is fitted to all models.

There was an article of this very subject on the forum a short while ago.

trying to find that article with no luck...

SaddleSC · 8 February 2014, 12:06 PM

Do you mean it has markings like the DSSD bezel insert? Any pics?

ecsub44 · 8 February 2014, 12:14 PM

That's news to me.

Pics please.

nd4me · 8 February 2014, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SaddleSC

Do you mean it has markings like the DSSD bezel insert? Any pics?

yes

asmfa5 · 8 February 2014, 12:26 PM

This was discussed in this thread:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=322733

Maybe the update to the bezel is legit?

ecsub44 · 8 February 2014, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asmfa5

This was discussed in this thread:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=322733

Maybe the update to the bezel is legit?

Oh. Cool. I prefer that style.

nd4me · 8 February 2014, 01:15 PM

damm... so its a fake bezel or what ? he bought it on a very reputable AD. and when he called at soon as he got to his house they where freaked out and told him to go rightaway because they had never seen that before and the other 3 in stock where not like that.

..very shady....

Wllnv19 · 8 February 2014, 01:19 PM

Too bad you didn't get a picture for us to see.

nd4me · 8 February 2014, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wllnv19

Too bad you didn't get a picture for us to see.

i do have it trying to uploaded

nd4me · 8 February 2014, 01:23 PM

here it is ......

ikovalchuk17 · 8 February 2014, 01:27 PM

That's cool. I prefer that style to the current one. I always thought the ceramic bezel insert looked better on the GMT than the sub because it has more markings.

Laszlo · 8 February 2014, 01:37 PM

I don't like it... Maybe it'll grow on me. Too busy.

To an untrained eye = GMT.

Mystro · 8 February 2014, 01:40 PM

Yea.....that's a GMT look and not a clean divers watch look.

~JJ · 8 February 2014, 01:43 PM

Looks military to me!

nd4me · 8 February 2014, 01:44 PM

we called dallas service center and they did not know anything about it..

...

Laszlo · 8 February 2014, 01:49 PM

I'd love to here from some of the members who are certified divers... If this is confusing considering a tank is usually 15 minutes?

I guess this piece wouldn't really be used as a tool watch anyway.

Strange design decision for sure.

ecsub44 · 8 February 2014, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laszlo

I'd love to here from some of the members who are certified divers... If this is confusing considering a tank is usually 15 minutes?

I guess this piece wouldn't really be used as a tool watch anyway.

Strange design decision for sure.

The bezel isn't used to time anything having to do with air in the tank.

And tanks aren't "usually 15 minutes".

And you're familiar with the Milsub...right?

Laszlo · 8 February 2014, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecsub44

The bezel isn't used to time anything having to do with air in the tank.

And tanks aren't "usually 15 minutes".

And you're familiar with the Milsub...right?

Yes, have seen the Milsub... But thought the current 15 min markings were user experience evolution.

Also thought that the 15 minute portion on the dial was used for that average measurement countdown, that if diving you'd turn the 12 o'clock marker to the hour hand before going under. I've obviously been misinformed.

padi56 · 8 February 2014, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laszlo

I'd love to here from some of the members who are certified divers... If this is confusing considering a tank is usually 15 minutes?

I guess this piece wouldn't really be used as a tool watch anyway.

Strange design decision for sure.

The 15 minutes have nothing to do with with the air tank, its used to time a safely stop at around 5m before returning to surface after the deeper dive.And say a 200bar air tank would give the average diver around a hour bottom time at 15m,now take the same air tank now dive down to say 45m then bottom time would be max 5 minutes before returning to safety stop, and return to surface without any decompression.Now again its possible that Rolex have started to use a new font on the newer inserts but myself not totally convinced.

watchwatcher · 8 February 2014, 01:58 PM

Hmmm...that is interesting. Today at an AD I saw the black and the new blue sunburst TT...the black was the traditional marking (not the one pictured above).

subtona · 8 February 2014, 02:06 PM

Looks like a fake bezel to me.

Of course not talking about the beautiful milsub directly above my post

masterserg · 8 February 2014, 02:07 PM

The bezel timer is used to time safety stops of (usually) 3 to 5 minutes for recreational diving or pre-planned bottom times.

Air tank duration depends on a lot of different factors such as depth, diver's shape and technique, etc. 30 to 45 minutes is the usual average on recreational dives down to the permitted depths, but as said, this depends on many different factors.

As per the bezel, me no likey (and never saw it on a current Sub).

ecsub44 · 8 February 2014, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by masterserg

As per the bezel, me no likey (and never saw it on a current Sub).

DSSD has the extra markers.

masterserg · 8 February 2014, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecsub44

DSSD has the extra markers.

Yep ... that's why I don't like them on the Sub

ecsub44 · 8 February 2014, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterserg

Yep ... that's why I don't like them on the Sub

T01 · 8 February 2014, 02:17 PM

I haven't heard anything about this. Hasn't changed on the Rolex website (though we all know thats not always the best guide). Beats me.

FTX I · 8 February 2014, 02:57 PM

third thread about this one. two first ones the overall impression was it's fake. but now I'm not so sure. look awful in my humble opinion.

8 February 2014, 09:12 AM	#1
nd4me Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: texas Posts: 36	bezel changed on sub two tone? hi guys,, my brother just bought a new sub two tone, and i notice the bezel has dots between each number anyone know if its a new thing? using always seen a line on 1 then small lines to 3 then line 5 7 9 11,,, this new one has small lines in between the reast all arround the bezel thanks

8 February 2014, 09:26 AM	#2
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,460	I believe from what I have heard and seen, that is the new style of beze. Though, I don't think that it is fitted to all models. There was an article of this very subject on the forum a short while ago. __________________

8 February 2014, 12:06 PM	#5
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	Do you mean it has markings like the DSSD bezel insert? Any pics? __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

8 February 2014, 12:14 PM	#6
ecsub44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US Watch: Sub Posts: 3,175	That's news to me. Pics please. __________________ *侘寂 -- wabi-sabi --* acceptance of transience and imperfection by finding beauty in that which is imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete Commissioner of WEIRD POLICE , Badge # ecsub44

8 February 2014, 01:23 PM	#13
nd4me Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: texas Posts: 36	here it is ...... Attached Images

8 February 2014, 12:26 PM	#8
asmfa5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Here Watch: 116610LN Posts: 137	This was discussed in this thread: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=322733 Maybe the update to the bezel is legit?

8 February 2014, 01:15 PM	#10
nd4me Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: texas Posts: 36	damm... so its a fake bezel or what ? he bought it on a very reputable AD. and when he called at soon as he got to his house they where freaked out and told him to go rightaway because they had never seen that before and the other 3 in stock where not like that. ..very shady....

8 February 2014, 01:19 PM	#11
Wllnv19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Willie Location: Parkland,Fl. Posts: 4,829	Too bad you didn't get a picture for us to see.

8 February 2014, 01:27 PM	#14
ikovalchuk17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: LA Watch: ND Sub Posts: 371	That's cool. I prefer that style to the current one. I always thought the ceramic bezel insert looked better on the GMT than the sub because it has more markings.

8 February 2014, 01:37 PM	#15
Laszlo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,868	I don't like it... Maybe it'll grow on me. Too busy. To an untrained eye = GMT. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

8 February 2014, 01:40 PM	#16
Mystro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,513	Yea.....that's a GMT look and not a clean divers watch look. __________________

8 February 2014, 01:43 PM	#17
~JJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Chicago Watch: explorer Posts: 2,291	Looks military to me!

8 February 2014, 01:44 PM	#18
nd4me Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: texas Posts: 36	we called dallas service center and they did not know anything about it.. ...

8 February 2014, 01:49 PM	#19
Laszlo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,868	I'd love to here from some of the members who are certified divers... If this is confusing considering a tank is usually 15 minutes? I guess this piece wouldn't really be used as a tool watch anyway. Strange design decision for sure. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

8 February 2014, 01:58 PM	#23
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	Hmmm...that is interesting. Today at an AD I saw the black and the new blue sunburst TT...the black was the traditional marking (not the one pictured above).

8 February 2014, 02:06 PM	#24
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,599	Looks like a fake bezel to me. Of course not talking about the beautiful milsub directly above my post

8 February 2014, 02:07 PM	#25
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	The bezel timer is used to time safety stops of (usually) 3 to 5 minutes for recreational diving or pre-planned bottom times. Air tank duration depends on a lot of different factors such as depth, diver's shape and technique, etc. 30 to 45 minutes is the usual average on recreational dives down to the permitted depths, but as said, this depends on many different factors. As per the bezel, me no likey (and never saw it on a current Sub). __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

8 February 2014, 02:17 PM	#29
T01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: T Location: AZ, NV, CA Posts: 6,490	I haven't heard anything about this. Hasn't changed on the Rolex website (though we all know thats not always the best guide). Beats me.

8 February 2014, 02:57 PM	#30
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	third thread about this one. two first ones the overall impression was it's fake. but now I'm not so sure. look awful in my humble opinion.

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