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time · 25 February 2008, 09:43 PM

Daytona costs 'almost' as a VC Oversea and an AP Oak.

The two ultimate competitors!
Which one - and the only one - do YOU want to wear your entire life???
Is Daytona good enough to beat its competitors???

Here is a reviw:
http://vc-ap.blogspot.com/

SPACE-DWELLER · 25 February 2008, 10:05 PM

Interesting review!

Still, I'd prefer the Daytona. But that's just me not liking the design of neither the Audemar Piguet nor the VC Overseas.

Also, the VC chrono movt. might be more beautifully finished, but IMHO the Cal. 4130 Rolex chronograph movt. is one of the best movts. ever made. The VC chrono movt. might be as good, but not better.

Robb · 25 February 2008, 10:07 PM

I tried on a VC one time... Very nice but sat too low on the wrist for me!!

walds11 · 25 February 2008, 10:45 PM

I'll take the Daytona any day of the week. The SS Daytona is a bargain compared to the VC Overseas and an AP Oak (chrono versions), even at grey market prices.

TDH · 25 February 2008, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walds11

I'll take the Daytona any day of the week. The SS Daytona is a bargain compared to the VC Overseas and an AP Oak (chrono versions), even at grey market prices.

Second that!

problmchylde · 26 February 2008, 12:28 AM

I'll gladly take either the AP or the DAYTONA.

SSD · 26 February 2008, 12:37 AM

If I were deciding on a purchase, I would go with the Daytona quickly. Between the AP and the VC, I would go with the latter because I like the dial and bracelet much more than the Royal Oak's. I would also rather have a VC movement, something Bo touched on a moment ago. Enjoyed the article! Wish they had lume shots. Great post!

S/SOnly · 26 February 2008, 01:12 AM

Love the Tona'!

Felly Jr. · 26 February 2008, 02:42 AM

Orchi · 26 February 2008, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felly Jr.

Err buddy Felly...you da man!!!

Last pic taken from Rolex's catalogue...

BigHat · 26 February 2008, 07:50 AM

If I had to keep one it would be the VC OS.

Why:
1. Much better finishing on everything.

2. The most comfortable bracelet

3. Has a date

4. Much more exclusive and a better company to deal with. I don't get Swiss chocolates at Christmas from Rolex. Small point but they make it a point to bond with customers. Small presents like wallets, business card holders all the time. Party and auction invites even though most are too far away.

5. Easiest to read of them all. Great layout, lots of lume.

Daytona is a great watch though and it is cheaper. Like the OS it has screw down pushers. I don't like that, so it's a wash between the two.

AP ROO: Beautiful, especially the limited editions. Pricey. None under $18K, many approach $30K even in SS. A very thick and top heavy watch. Not a comfortable bracelet. I'd get the hornback strap next time. Pushers are waterproof without being screwed down. Easily to read in some configurations but hard in others. The Navy and Safari are among the best looking but have no lume. It does have a date.

My two cents. They are all great watches and you can't go wrong with Rolex. As Bo says, the Daytona movement is highly regarded. I find the VC tio be every bit as accurate.

I have posted pics of all three in earlier threads.

wantonebad · 26 February 2008, 02:47 AM

Yeah I have to agree that the Daytona is the king, I'm not a huge daytona fan but frankly that's starting to change and I'm already starting my second Rolex fund, we'll see what happens in a few months...

samsung82 · 26 February 2008, 04:13 AM

nice

Jimbits76 · 26 February 2008, 06:57 AM

I'm going with the Cos...I'd rather have a Zenith Chronny than the VC or AP.

Would love a Cos tho!!!!!!

J

samsung82 · 26 February 2008, 07:00 AM

wow

marshallr47 · 26 February 2008, 07:11 AM

Daytona all the way.

Art 1 · 26 February 2008, 07:56 AM

Don't care for the RO, won't ever own one. Love the VC Overseas Chrono. It's a toss up. The Daytona offers a lot of bang for the buck. IMO. The VC depreciates greatly and is hard to resell.

Chozn1 · 26 February 2008, 08:18 AM

Neither of those do it for me.

maz · 26 February 2008, 08:58 AM

Love that VC....
-Nik

mike · 26 February 2008, 09:44 AM

I'd prefer the Daytona.

BuffaloRolex · 26 February 2008, 11:07 AM

Without hesitation the SS Daytona. Don't care for the look of the AP ROs; don't care for the bracelet on the VC.

Spencer · 26 February 2008, 09:52 AM

I own an SS Daytona and love it, though I would probably take the AP ROO Chrono over it.

virtualtg · 26 February 2008, 11:41 AM

Felly:

No question......the Daytona is absolutely beautiful.

Great pics.

MAC4130 · 26 February 2008, 11:53 AM

Daytona would be my first choice! Altough The Overseas Chrono is on my list of to-dos!

Rawhyde · 26 February 2008, 01:29 PM

I like the Daytona. If I had to choose between the other two, I'd have to get the VC. I just dont care for the looks of the AP Oak series of watches.

I could be accused of being a "fanboy", but Rolex watches just have the right look for me.

Rawhyde

CPCC · 26 February 2008, 02:27 PM

Daytona all the way

Solo118 · 26 February 2008, 03:27 PM

Daytona, sorry but its just the ultimate classic chronograph. I love it

Andad · 26 February 2008, 04:57 PM

They look like they compete more with the Omega Speedy range than the Daytona.

applebook · 26 February 2008, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

They look like they compete more with the Omega Speedy range than the Daytona.

They cost far more than any Speedy.

DJF881 · 27 February 2008, 03:49 AM

I have to say, I don't place a huge emphasis on having everything painstakingly handcrafted, but there's something nice about a watch that is kind of exclusive.

Rolex and Omega are able to pioneer technological improvements in watchmaking because they can divert the cost of new machinery and R&D over a lot of watches, and they sell high-tech, extremely accurate watches as a result. But Vacheron and PP and AP are making watches that are really beautiful, painstakingly handcrafted, and legitimately rare.

I don't know if I'd covet those things in a stainless steel sports watch the way I might in a dress watch, and I would not pay a $4000 premium over something like a GMTIIC, which is a really cutting edge watch, for those qualities, especially since, to the extent my watch impresses people, I am more concerned with impressing women (who would recognize Rolex) than rich guys (who would recognize more exclusive watches). But realistically, if I weren't paying for it, I'd take an AP or a VC over a Rolex any day of the week.

25 February 2008, 09:43 PM	#1
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25 February 2008, 10:05 PM	#2
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Interesting review! Still, I'd prefer the Daytona. But that's just me not liking the design of neither the Audemar Piguet nor the VC Overseas. Also, the VC chrono movt. might be more beautifully finished, but IMHO the Cal. 4130 Rolex chronograph movt. is one of the best movts. ever made. The VC chrono movt. might be as good, but not better. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

25 February 2008, 10:07 PM	#3
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25 February 2008, 10:45 PM	#4
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,660	I'll take the Daytona any day of the week. The SS Daytona is a bargain compared to the VC Overseas and an AP Oak (chrono versions), even at grey market prices. __________________ Adam

26 February 2008, 12:37 AM	#7
SSD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jamie Location: Georgia Watch: Stainless Sub Date Posts: 3,023	If I were deciding on a purchase, I would go with the Daytona quickly. Between the AP and the VC, I would go with the latter because I like the dial and bracelet much more than the Royal Oak's. I would also rather have a VC movement, something Bo touched on a moment ago. Enjoyed the article! Wish they had lume shots. Great post! __________________ SUBMARINER OWNERS' CLUB ESTABLISHED 1953 TRF Member # 5464

26 February 2008, 12:28 AM	#6
problmchylde "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: PETER Location: Singapore Watch: 1665 SD Posts: 768	I'll gladly take either the AP or the DAYTONA.

26 February 2008, 01:12 AM	#8
S/SOnly "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Desert Watch: GMT II RN Posts: 339	Love the Tona'! __________________ 904L..... Clean, Simple, Durable....

26 February 2008, 02:42 AM	#9
Felly Jr. "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Felly Location: Washington State Watch: SS Daytona/GV Posts: 2,998	And The Winner Is:

26 February 2008, 07:50 AM	#11
BigHat Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Arlington, VA Watch: Lange One MP Posts: 4,043	I own two of them now and have owned all three If I had to keep one it would be the VC OS. Why: 1. Much better finishing on everything. 2. The most comfortable bracelet 3. Has a date 4. Much more exclusive and a better company to deal with. I don't get Swiss chocolates at Christmas from Rolex. Small point but they make it a point to bond with customers. Small presents like wallets, business card holders all the time. Party and auction invites even though most are too far away. 5. Easiest to read of them all. Great layout, lots of lume. Daytona is a great watch though and it is cheaper. Like the OS it has screw down pushers. I don't like that, so it's a wash between the two. AP ROO: Beautiful, especially the limited editions. Pricey. None under $18K, many approach $30K even in SS. A very thick and top heavy watch. Not a comfortable bracelet. I'd get the hornback strap next time. Pushers are waterproof without being screwed down. Easily to read in some configurations but hard in others. The Navy and Safari are among the best looking but have no lume. It does have a date. My two cents. They are all great watches and you can't go wrong with Rolex. As Bo says, the Daytona movement is highly regarded. I find the VC tio be every bit as accurate. I have posted pics of all three in earlier threads.

26 February 2008, 02:47 AM	#12
wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	Yeah I have to agree that the Daytona is the king, I'm not a huge daytona fan but frankly that's starting to change and I'm already starting my second Rolex fund, we'll see what happens in a few months...

26 February 2008, 04:13 AM	#13
samsung82 Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: las vegas Posts: 70	nice

26 February 2008, 06:57 AM	#14
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	I'm going with the Cos...I'd rather have a Zenith Chronny than the VC or AP. Would love a Cos tho!!!!!! J

26 February 2008, 07:00 AM	#15
samsung82 Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: las vegas Posts: 70	wow

26 February 2008, 07:11 AM	#16
marshallr47 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Ron Location: Alabama Watch: Daytona,TT Sub,GMT Posts: 4,673	Daytona all the way. __________________ Ron

26 February 2008, 07:56 AM	#17
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	Don't care for the RO, won't ever own one. Love the VC Overseas Chrono. It's a toss up. The Daytona offers a lot of bang for the buck. IMO. The VC depreciates greatly and is hard to resell.

26 February 2008, 08:18 AM	#18
Chozn1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South GA Watch: Sub and President Posts: 1,501	Neither of those do it for me.

26 February 2008, 08:58 AM	#19
maz Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Nik Location: CT Watch: SS GMT II C Posts: 69	Love that VC.... -Nik

26 February 2008, 09:44 AM	#20
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I'd prefer the Daytona.

26 February 2008, 11:07 AM	#21
BuffaloRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Tony Location: Buffalo Watch: 16613 (blue dial) Posts: 1,329	Without hesitation the SS Daytona. Don't care for the look of the AP ROs; don't care for the bracelet on the VC.

26 February 2008, 09:52 AM	#22
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	I own an SS Daytona and love it, though I would probably take the AP ROO Chrono over it. __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

26 February 2008, 11:41 AM	#23
virtualtg Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: JT Location: Central Florida Posts: 48	Felly: No question......the Daytona is absolutely beautiful. Great pics.

26 February 2008, 11:53 AM	#24
MAC4130 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Miguel Cornejo Location: El Paso Tx Watch: 116500LN Posts: 488	Daytona would be my first choice! Altough The Overseas Chrono is on my list of to-dos! __________________ Rolex Daytona 116500LN Black, Rolex Daytona 116500LN White, Rolex TT GMTIIC, Panerai 88, Cartier Santos TT Auto, Omega Seamaster GMT Bond Co-axial, Omega Constellation SS Auto, Tag Heuer Carrera Chrono Tachy Auto

26 February 2008, 01:29 PM	#25
Rawhyde Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Craig Location: NW Georgia Watch: Blue Sub+Tud Chron Posts: 834	I like the Daytona. If I had to choose between the other two, I'd have to get the VC. I just dont care for the looks of the AP Oak series of watches. I could be accused of being a "fanboy", but Rolex watches just have the right look for me. Rawhyde

26 February 2008, 02:27 PM	#26
CPCC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: USA Posts: 1,857	Daytona all the way __________________

26 February 2008, 03:27 PM	#27
Solo118 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 6,092	Daytona, sorry but its just the ultimate classic chronograph. I love it

26 February 2008, 04:57 PM	#28
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,534	They look like they compete more with the Omega Speedy range than the Daytona. __________________ E

27 February 2008, 03:49 AM	#30
DJF881 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 248	I have to say, I don't place a huge emphasis on having everything painstakingly handcrafted, but there's something nice about a watch that is kind of exclusive. Rolex and Omega are able to pioneer technological improvements in watchmaking because they can divert the cost of new machinery and R&D over a lot of watches, and they sell high-tech, extremely accurate watches as a result. But Vacheron and PP and AP are making watches that are really beautiful, painstakingly handcrafted, and legitimately rare. I don't know if I'd covet those things in a stainless steel sports watch the way I might in a dress watch, and I would not pay a $4000 premium over something like a GMTIIC, which is a really cutting edge watch, for those qualities, especially since, to the extent my watch impresses people, I am more concerned with impressing women (who would recognize Rolex) than rich guys (who would recognize more exclusive watches). But realistically, if I weren't paying for it, I'd take an AP or a VC over a Rolex any day of the week.

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