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omitohud · 28 February 2014, 09:13 AM

I was perusing the net and stumbled upon this article (could be old news)

http://watchfreaks.wordpress.com/200...rolex-watches/

Arguing about vintage vs new aside, I think his logic is flawed in that if you are collecting, don't you want to collect something that is in demand? If you spend 30K on a DRSD, which is the grail for many, don't you think it will only go up in price or at least retain its value since there are only that many around and most likely supply will lessen as time goes by? I mean if someone is willing to pay 30K today, there is a high possibility someone is willing to pay 40k down the line, don't you think? Its like saying I don't want to buy a van gogh because its over price.

toph · 28 February 2014, 09:17 AM

It's like any item, business etc of particular value. The value will change over time: up, down then back to the same. Who knows.
A rare watch will likely increase overall but who's to say the hype hasn't sent the prices too high currently?

springer · 28 February 2014, 09:24 AM

Interesting read.

joe100 · 28 February 2014, 09:52 AM

Like anything, the bottom could drop out. I do think vintage Rolex prices are inflated a bit but every 4 digit and 5 digit Rolex reference that ever will be made has been made.

Frosty · 28 February 2014, 10:12 AM

Condition, condition, condition!

subtona · 28 February 2014, 10:32 AM

mostly, for my personal interests, i agree with the article.

CrownMe · 28 February 2014, 11:30 AM

Top quality examples will always command the highest prices

happy hunting

Blue Lantern · 28 February 2014, 12:44 PM

It's funny to think this blog post is from 2008, and he was complaining about prices back then! Since that's about when I started collecting, that seems like the "good old days" to me compared to today's prices.

Lgear080 · 28 February 2014, 12:46 PM

Opinion piece.

The fact of the matter remains that limited supply
And red-hot demand world wide is driving prices
Out of reach of most. There are plenty of non-rare
Vintage Rolex pieces for the rest of us.

cgibs105 · 28 February 2014, 01:06 PM

Interesting piece but solely opinion. To each is own. I don't understand the fetish around unreadable faded dials on "mil subs" but they clearly demand a hefty price so...if one can ethically take advantage why not.

Vincent65 · 28 February 2014, 05:54 PM

Good for him, and my opinion is that some of his opinion is a bit sensationalist, vague generalisation and not entirely accurate…

"A number of people seem to buy them to be able to show off to other vintage collectors, not for their own pleasure. It also occurred to me that most of the current vintage buyers are mostly focused on the optical aspects of a Rolex and do not care for its condition of the mechanical movement."

I don't know anyone who is not interested in the movement, let alone "most".

marcello pisani · 28 February 2014, 06:36 PM

just a bunch of banalities and bulls....
the old proverb < sometimes no knowledge is better than a small knowledge > once again perfectly fits ...
most likely author dream is to find a vintage Rolex from the 50s in LNIB conditions at the price of a modern model....
but ( quoting " Deadline " ) :
< that's the market, baby. the market ! and there's nothing you can do about it. nothing! >

Cc1966 · 1 March 2014, 01:46 AM

The most stellar examples of vintage references will always command a stellar price...that much is sure IMHO.

Jason71 · 1 March 2014, 02:30 AM

Blah blah blah. His opinion on vintage prices being too high. I wonder what he would say about the prices of today. I buy what I can afford BECAUSE I LIKE IT. It has nothing to do with his opinions. He can't convince me that modern Rolex movements are "better" either. Different, yes......but not necessarily better.

watchcrank · 1 March 2014, 02:22 AM

It's a opinion of someone who knows what he knows and has a forum to voice his opinion. He has his and others have their own. M

Vincent65 · 1 March 2014, 07:30 PM

Why I do collect Vintage Rolex:

s4dan · 1 March 2014, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent65

Why I do collect Vintage Rolex:

Nuff said

lhanddds · 2 March 2014, 12:46 AM

Some get it, some don't.

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Dan Pierce · 2 March 2014, 01:15 AM

Few things are more satisfying than enjoying a comfortable vintage.
dP

NukeMan · 3 March 2014, 12:20 AM

Each market segment needs interested buyers. If the chap is interested in buying only new watches, then good on him. Its like any collectors interest, you either buy new pieces produced in the millions because you like them, or you buy more or less limited end of production pieces because you like them. I know which segment I like and where I rather have my bucks "invested"...

jammurman · 3 March 2014, 05:34 AM

Vintage Rolex are great when you have them for many years they have always gone up in value if you purchased them for below wholesale price

28 February 2014, 09:13 AM	#1
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	why I don't collect vintage Rolex I was perusing the net and stumbled upon this article (could be old news) http://watchfreaks.wordpress.com/200...rolex-watches/ Arguing about vintage vs new aside, I think his logic is flawed in that if you are collecting, don't you want to collect something that is in demand? If you spend 30K on a DRSD, which is the grail for many, don't you think it will only go up in price or at least retain its value since there are only that many around and most likely supply will lessen as time goes by? I mean if someone is willing to pay 30K today, there is a high possibility someone is willing to pay 40k down the line, don't you think? Its like saying I don't want to buy a van gogh because its over price.

28 February 2014, 09:17 AM	#2
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	It's like any item, business etc of particular value. The value will change over time: up, down then back to the same. Who knows. A rare watch will likely increase overall but who's to say the hype hasn't sent the prices too high currently? __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

28 February 2014, 09:24 AM	#3
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Interesting read. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

28 February 2014, 09:52 AM	#4
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	Like anything, the bottom could drop out. I do think vintage Rolex prices are inflated a bit but every 4 digit and 5 digit Rolex reference that ever will be made has been made. __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

28 February 2014, 10:32 AM	#6
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,601	mostly, for my personal interests, i agree with the article. __________________

28 February 2014, 10:12 AM	#5
Frosty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: So Cal Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 5,087	Condition, condition, condition!

28 February 2014, 11:30 AM	#7
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	Top quality examples will always command the highest prices happy hunting

28 February 2014, 12:44 PM	#8
Blue Lantern "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Delaware Watch: Tudor 79190 Posts: 366	It's funny to think this blog post is from 2008, and he was complaining about prices back then! Since that's about when I started collecting, that seems like the "good old days" to me compared to today's prices.

28 February 2014, 12:46 PM	#9
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Opinion piece. The fact of the matter remains that limited supply And red-hot demand world wide is driving prices Out of reach of most. There are plenty of non-rare Vintage Rolex pieces for the rest of us.

28 February 2014, 01:06 PM	#10
cgibs105 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: New York Watch: 16234 16610 1601wb Posts: 64	Interesting piece but solely opinion. To each is own. I don't understand the fetish around unreadable faded dials on "mil subs" but they clearly demand a hefty price so...if one can ethically take advantage why not.

28 February 2014, 05:54 PM	#11
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	Good for him, and my opinion is that some of his opinion is a bit sensationalist, vague generalisation and not entirely accurate… "A number of people seem to buy them to be able to show off to other vintage collectors, not for their own pleasure. It also occurred to me that most of the current vintage buyers are mostly focused on the optical aspects of a Rolex and do not care for its condition of the mechanical movement." I don't know anyone who is not interested in the movement, let alone "most".

28 February 2014, 06:36 PM	#12
marcello pisani "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: italy Posts: 991	that work is ... just a bunch of banalities and bulls.... the old proverb < sometimes no knowledge is better than a small knowledge > once again perfectly fits ... most likely author dream is to find a vintage Rolex from the 50s in LNIB conditions at the price of a modern model.... but ( quoting " Deadline " ) : < that's the market, baby. the market ! and there's nothing you can do about it. nothing! >

1 March 2014, 01:46 AM	#13
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	The most stellar examples of vintage references will always command a stellar price...that much is sure IMHO. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

1 March 2014, 02:30 AM	#14
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Blah blah blah. His opinion on vintage prices being too high. I wonder what he would say about the prices of today. I buy what I can afford BECAUSE I LIKE IT. It has nothing to do with his opinions. He can't convince me that modern Rolex movements are "better" either. Different, yes......but not necessarily better. __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

1 March 2014, 02:22 AM	#15
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,664	It's a opinion of someone who knows what he knows and has a forum to voice his opinion. He has his and others have their own. M

1 March 2014, 07:30 PM	#16
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	Why I do collect Vintage Rolex: Attached Images

2 March 2014, 12:46 AM	#18
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	Some get it, some don't. Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk

2 March 2014, 01:15 AM	#19
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,217	Few things are more satisfying than enjoying a comfortable vintage. dP Attached Images __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

3 March 2014, 12:20 AM	#20
NukeMan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Jonas Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 988	Each market segment needs interested buyers. If the chap is interested in buying only new watches, then good on him. Its like any collectors interest, you either buy new pieces produced in the millions because you like them, or you buy more or less limited end of production pieces because you like them. I know which segment I like and where I rather have my bucks "invested"...

3 March 2014, 05:34 AM	#21
jammurman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Florida Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 42	Vintage Rolex are great when you have them for many years they have always gone up in value if you purchased them for below wholesale price

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