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28 February 2008, 09:21 PM
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Real Name: Stefan
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Watch: SS Daytona,GMT IIc
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The Submariner. The real Grail Rolex??
One thing I regret is my first Rolex not being a Sub!!!
Last year when I was researching what one to get, it came down to the GMT C or the Sub with date. I went with the GMT. This is my favourite watch of all time and I unless I run into financial or health difficulties I hope it will remain with me for plenty of years, until I have the opportunity to pass it to a family member. From the stories I have read here at TRF I believe there can be no better feeling than that experience. I really look forward to the day when I can pass it along to somebody that means the world to me. That being said I believe that the Sub is the one of the most iconic watches on the planet. No other sports watch is so comfortable in so many situations. It looks as good on a wetsuit as it does under the cuff of a White shirt & Tuxedo. But my GMT shares a lot or its Rolex DNA with the sub and owning both may never happen. I love the extra function of my GMT and use the dual time zones every time I travel. I only need one daily beater. With this in mind I may never own a Sub.  I believe the Sub throughout the years has retained all its class & ability. I hope that the new version retains that quality and style.  Cheers to all you Sub owners. If you could take the time to post some of your best pics I would really appreciate it.
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28 February 2008, 10:06 PM
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Real Name: Arturo
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The Sub is the franchise. It is to Rolex as the polo collar is to Brooks Brothers....just a great all time classic.
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23 March 2008, 01:20 PM
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But I have to say that the best looking Sub, IMO, is the ND Sub (Of course I am biased!!) But I simply love the simple dial, and uncluttered look. It is my first Rolex, and I know there will be more, but I will always keep the Sub. It simply says Rolex
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28 February 2008, 10:06 PM
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When I bought my first Rolex (already had a GMT II from the 80's given to me) it was going to be a another GMT II. With the shift to the GMT IIc and my inability to find a black steek bezel my choice was made. A GMT IIc it was!
Until I went to the AD and walked out with my purchase of a SS Sub.  Why? The IIc just didn't "look" right. It had lost some of that Holy Crap appeal to me. It was a BMW 5 series with 20" rims and the idrive. To each his own and maybe my next watch will be a GMTIIc. Or maybe it'll be an explorer or grey market GMT II with the black bezel I wanted all along. But the Sub stays with me until I'm worm food.
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28 February 2008, 10:06 PM
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Stefan, the SS Sub Date was my first Rolex model and I have always considered it to be THE iconic Rolex model out there. It's a very versatile watch, suitable for both social and business wear. Maybe that's why I keep turning back to it:
1. Submariner Date (16610) R 97 XXXX, bought on 22.04.1989 2. Submariner (O.P.) 5513, (serial # n/a), swopped at Portobello Road Market in London for a Sub Date 16610 3. Datejust (16234), serial # n/a, bought on 22.11.1989 at "Watches of Switzerland" in London. 4. Submariner Date (16610) L 55 XXXX, bought on 25.05.1990 from my AD in Denmark. 5. Submariner Date (16610), X 90 XXXX, bought on 06.10.1993 from my AD in Denmark. 6. Datejust (16234), X 33 XXXX, bought on 08.02.1994 from my AD in Denmark. 7. Date, Lady (69240), X 56 XXXX, bought on 10.05.1994 for my mother from my AD in Denmark. 8. Submariner Date (16610), W 24 XXXX, bought on 13.06.1994 from my AD in Denmark. 9. Submariner Date (16610), W 24 XXXX, bought on 02.06.1995 from my AD in Denmark. 10. Sea-Dweller (16600), S 50 XXXX, bought on 07.06.1995 from my AD in Denmark. 11. Submariner Date (16610), X 78 XXXX, bought on 28.11.1995 from my AD in Denmark. 12. Cosmograph Daytona (16520), W 39 XXXX, bought on 10.10.1995 from my AD in Denmark. 13. Cosmograph Daytona (16520), T 31 XXXX, bought on21.11.1996 from my AD in Denmark. 14. Datejust (16220), U 53 XXXX, bought on 06.10.1998 from another AD in Denmark than my usual AD. 15. Submariner Date (16610), A 22 XXXX, bought on 03.05.1999, again from another AD than my usual AD. 16. Cosmograph Daytona (16520), A 30 XXXX, bought on07.09.1999 from my AD in Denmark. 17. Submariner Date (16610), A 74 XXXX, bought on 13.06.2000 from another AD than my usual AD. 18. Sea-Dweller (16600), serial # n/a, bought on 18.09.2003 from my AD in Denmark. 19. Submariner Date (16610), Z 87 XXXX, bought on 27.07.2007 from yet another new AD. 20. Sea-Dweller 4000 (16600), M02XXXX, bought on 06.09.2007 (swopped the Sub Date for the SD at my AD). 21. Cosmograph Daytony (116520), M04XXXX, bought on 28-09-2007 from my good old AD. 22. GMT II (116710LN), M27XXXX, bought on 07-12-2007 from my good old AD. 
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29 February 2008, 12:24 AM
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Bo,
I think you've got a flipping problem my friend! Quote:
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29 February 2008, 02:30 AM
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29 February 2008, 06:32 AM
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29 February 2008, 08:45 AM
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Yeah.....they're pretty cool.
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29 February 2008, 01:25 PM
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“This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the BLUE pill - the story ends; you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the RED pill - you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.” Rolex Submariner 116610LV Hulk | Rolex GMT 16710 Pepsi | Omega Speedmaster “Speedy Tuesday” | Tudor Black Bay 79220R “ETA Rose” | Tudor Pelagos Blue Dial | Rolex Submariner Yellow Gold 116618LB | Rolex Milgauss “Z-Blue” 116400GV |
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29 February 2008, 01:09 PM
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23 March 2008, 11:38 AM
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I assume you are very generous and purchased many of these as gifts. Always enjoy reading your commentary. Mike _____________________________________________ SS Rolex Sub Date Omega Seamaster |
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24 March 2008, 01:20 PM
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Can I get one?!
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28 February 2008, 10:39 PM
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I agree. I will never part with my Sub Date.
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28 February 2008, 11:52 PM
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The Sub is the bomb,My personal favorite, Peter
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29 February 2008, 12:06 AM
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Real Name: Kevin
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Great post. The Sub is the one that started the professional line, and I don't think it gets enough props.
I, like you, was down to two SS watches when I bought my first: Sub date and Explorer-II. I bought the Sub because it was THE Rolex to have if you're only going to have one--at least in my opinion, and according to much advice I recieved on this forum. I now have three--including the originally lusted for Expy--but I don't think it will supplant my love for the Sub. The Sub was my first, and if for some reason I had to sell two, the Sub would stay. For me, SUBMARINER IS ROLEX.
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 16610 Submariner Date; D Serial 16234 DateJust SS with WG Fluted Bezel & Jubillee, White Roman Dial; F Serial 16570 Explorer II White Dial; M Serial And Hers: 78240 Mid-Size DateJust SS with Domed Bezel & Oyster, White Roman; D Serial |
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29 February 2008, 12:32 AM
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Grail-definition 2 Merriam-Webster: The object of an extended or difficult quest.
While the sub is the iconic Rolex professional model I think calling it the real grail Rolex is incorrect. For some their grail watch may be a Daytona, others may want a Day/Date, others still a pristine edition of a discontinued series. Icon-definition 4 Merriam-Webster: Emblem, Symbol. I personally think the Sub is the Icon of Rolex and will always remain so, but it is not my grail watch. Just a little nit-picking to get the blood flowing this morning. 
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29 February 2008, 01:58 PM
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Iconic, YES! Grail, NO! I think for a watch to be a "Grail" it needs to be difficult to obtain by more than just financial constraints. It should be rare in some way and a Submariner isn't unless it's a discontinued or vintage model. Just my opinion..
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29 February 2008, 12:45 AM
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14060M, 16610, 16613 I love them all!!
Steff, My dress watch is a 16613, it's the first and only rolex I own, my everyday beater is an Oris TT1, but my goal is to flip it into a 14060M at some point. It's going to be harder now that the prices have gone up, just have to sell more stuff on ebay It's funny that my grail watch is something I plan on using as a beater? You'd think the 16613 would be my grail but... |
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29 February 2008, 12:53 AM
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Remember, the GMT appeared pretty soon after the sub, so it's right up there in the must-have list. I'd like to get one and would probably find it more useful for my work.
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29 February 2008, 01:48 AM
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I LOVE mine and have admired the sub since I was a little girl.
Who says a woman can't wear a sub??!!  It's definitely a keeper  
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29 February 2008, 01:53 AM
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 THAT PHOTO KARIS! Here's Mine:
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“This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the BLUE pill - the story ends; you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the RED pill - you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.” Rolex Submariner 116610LV Hulk | Rolex GMT 16710 Pepsi | Omega Speedmaster “Speedy Tuesday” | Tudor Black Bay 79220R “ETA Rose” | Tudor Pelagos Blue Dial | Rolex Submariner Yellow Gold 116618LB | Rolex Milgauss “Z-Blue” 116400GV |
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29 February 2008, 01:58 AM
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Maybe you can buy a sub when you pass down your GMT-IIc? Or in the future just buy a sub too!
I really like the sub and can easily see myself one day owning one. |
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29 February 2008, 01:59 AM
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One is 18 yrs. old and the other is 8. Which is which?
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29 February 2008, 02:04 AM
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The submariner date is indeed a GREAT watch. If it wasn't for the submariner, our 4000 foot club watch (SD) will not be around!
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29 February 2008, 02:04 AM
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Its timeless!
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29 February 2008, 02:06 AM
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“This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the BLUE pill - the story ends; you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the RED pill - you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.” Rolex Submariner 116610LV Hulk | Rolex GMT 16710 Pepsi | Omega Speedmaster “Speedy Tuesday” | Tudor Black Bay 79220R “ETA Rose” | Tudor Pelagos Blue Dial | Rolex Submariner Yellow Gold 116618LB | Rolex Milgauss “Z-Blue” 116400GV |
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29 February 2008, 12:05 PM
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29 February 2008, 02:07 AM
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29 February 2008, 02:32 AM
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