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BJHofkin · 3 March 2014, 04:00 AM

I'm planning on picking up a mint, late-model 16600 as my first Rolex.

The only thing that would get in the way at this point would be the introduction of an all-new Sea Dweller smaller and thinner than the Deep Sea (which is way too big for me).

There's been much discussion here on such a watch and the likelihood of its introduction; although I think it'd be an ENORMOUS hit, I think it's unlikely Rolex would introduce such a model only 6 years after the Deep Sea and only a few after the SubC update.

That said, all the other sports models have been updated recently too, and I think Rolex will do SOMETHING with one of its SS sports models. A new bezel for the GMT, perhaps, but the BLNR is only a year old, so I'm not sure about that either.

In sum, I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that we will in fact see a new Sea Dweller this year. My question is, do you think the likelihood is high enough to warrant waiting on picking up a 16600? I'm getting itchy, but Basel is less than a month way…

AF_Rob · 3 March 2014, 04:02 AM

If you're getting itchy already, even if they do release a new SD this year, you will be waiting most of it to get your hands on one.

Lgear080 · 3 March 2014, 04:02 AM

Considering a 16600 is so different than any potential releases, no.

dimster · 3 March 2014, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lgear080

Considering a 16600 is so different than any potential releases, no.

Agreed, there can only be one 16600 but I would wait another 3 weeks and see what is introduced at Basel. Maybe something else that will spark your interest?

emurray703 · 3 March 2014, 04:03 AM

I sure hope. A 42 mm SD would sell like crazy. I may hang out at the AD on Feb 27th so I can be first in the list just in case.

Fiery · 3 March 2014, 04:18 AM

Basel is only a few weeks away, so I'd wait for it and only make a decision after having seen what the new models would be. However, I seriously doubt Rolex would introduce a new SD. I suspect the news this year will be all about precious metals, and the show will be stolen by the ceramic bezeled gold Daytonas. I may be wrong though

DamageInc.77 · 3 March 2014, 04:28 AM

Get the 16600 before someone else does.

The 16600 is a perfect watch, and is worth owning no matter what new watch comes out.

Z-Sub · 3 March 2014, 04:56 AM

Never regret to get 16600 even if a new one comes out

CDNWatchNut · 3 March 2014, 04:58 AM

I would go with the buy what you want now philosophy as well. Maybe a new version of SD will come out, but even so, it isn't going to be too difficult to sell a 16600 SD down the road, IMO.

Speed · 3 March 2014, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageInc.77

Get the 16600 before someone else does.

The 16600 is a perfect watch, and is worth owning no matter what new watch comes out.

This.

The_Walrus · 3 March 2014, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by damageinc.77

get the 16600 before someone else does.

The 16600 is a perfect watch, and is worth owning no matter what new watch comes out.

x2

carlitos1020 · 4 March 2014, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by the_walrus

x2

x3

Wesley Crusher · 3 March 2014, 04:59 AM

I don't understand why people think that Rolex may come out with a 42mm SD. It's not going to happen.

Jason71 · 3 March 2014, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I don't understand why people think that Rolex may come out with a 42mm SD. It's not going to happen.

+1

I personally believe the 16600 is THE perfect watch, NOT some crazy 42mm version. IMHO, ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of a revised SD at Basel this year.

Oryx · 3 March 2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason71

+1

I personally believe the 16600 is THE perfect watch, NOT some crazy 42mm version. IMHO, ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of a revised SD at Basel this year.

Jason - you will have to wait and see then.

Lets revisit this thread after Rolex reveal their new models at Basel.

Rashid.bk · 3 March 2014, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I don't understand why people think that Rolex may come out with a 42mm SD. It's not going to happen.

That's a big roj...
but be prepared to copy paste your response as there are still a few weeks until Basel.

Wesley Crusher · 3 March 2014, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

That's a big roj...
but be prepared to copy paste your response as there are still a few weeks until Basel.

I stand by what I say. If Rolex comes out with a 42mm SD, I'm ready to eat my words. That isn't going to happen, though.

Like Larry pointed out, there just isn't any room for a 42mm SD. Unless Rolex discontinues the DSSD, which will not happen, it would make no sense to add another dive watch.

Rashid.bk · 4 March 2014, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I stand by what I say. If Rolex comes out with a 42mm SD, I'm ready to eat my words. That isn't going to happen, though.

Like Larry pointed out, there just isn't any room for a 42mm SD. Unless Rolex discontinues the DSSD, which will not happen, it would make no sense to add another dive watch.

Lol. you misunderstood me. I agree with your original assessment and what I meant regarding copy pasting is that you'll be repeating your statement because with Basel a few weeks away still, there will be quite a few of these threads asking the impossible.

Laszlo · 3 March 2014, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I don't understand why people think that Rolex may come out with a 42mm SD. It's not going to happen.

Agree...

tkerrmd · 3 March 2014, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I don't understand why people think that Rolex may come out with a 42mm SD. It's not going to happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

It's not gonna happen. Even if it were to happen, it wouldn't change how awesome the SD is......

Bingo

outtatime · 4 March 2014, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I don't understand why people think that Rolex may come out with a 42mm SD. It's not going to happen.

And I don't understand why people in speculation threads state opinions as facts.

Personally, I'd love to seem them do a 42mm Sub/SD (or even 44), but if they don't, oh well I guess. I don't know why people seem so hell bent on declaring that this will "never happen".

Wesley Crusher · 4 March 2014, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Lol. you misunderstood me. I agree with your original assessment and what I meant regarding copy pasting is that you'll be repeating your statement because with Basel a few weeks away still, there will be quite a few of these threads asking the impossible.

Oh, my mistake!

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Originally Posted by outtatime

And I don't understand why people in speculation threads state opinions as facts.

Personally, I'd love to seem them do a 42mm Sub/SD (or even 44), but if they don't, oh well I guess. I don't know why people seem so hell bent on declaring that this will "never happen".

Well, in that case, I'm looking forward to the new 36mm Submariner.

outtatime · 4 March 2014, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

Oh, my mistake!

Well, in that case, I'm looking forward to the new 36mm Submariner.

Hey, if that's what they decide, more power to them.

Nothing I'd ever buy, but maybe it would be a good seller.

strafer_kid · 4 March 2014, 04:10 AM

Whilst it might be a nice thought, it seems unlikely that a new SD will appear anytime soon. Rolex must have invested considerable finance in the Deepsea and only a few years back. Good as the Deepsea is, any new SD would surely impact negatively on it? There are still plenty of 16600 SDs about, so anyone thinking along those lines could do a lot worse than grabbing one ....or two...now!

shalako · 4 March 2014, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I don't understand why people think that Rolex may come out with a 42mm SD. It's not going to happen.

+1 here also, they already have the SubC for those that find the DSSD too big, my money is on changes to the steel Daytona at this years Basle.

Cru Jones · 3 March 2014, 04:59 AM

It's not gonna happen. Even if it were to happen, it wouldn't change how awesome the SD is......

Bangel · 3 March 2014, 05:08 AM

My crystal ball tells me you should get the SD now.

Even in the unlikely event that a revised diving model does appear, who's to say it's going to be exactly what you're expecting?

Also, as has been said previously, whatever new watches are released at Basel won't reach ADs until much later in the year.

SaddleSC · 3 March 2014, 05:07 AM

The Deep Sea and the original Sea Dweller have always been fringe pieces that appeal to a more limited market than the standard Submariner. Rolex poured a ton of R&D money into the DSSD to show what they were truly capable of. In my opinion, a 42mm Sea Dweller would be the perfect watch, but it is not going to happen, because it would cannibalize sales of the DSSD and IMO it would make their lineup of divers watches too congested (and slightly confusing to the lay person).

On the other hand, let's assume that I am completely wrong and Rolex does release a 42mm Sea Dweller at Basel this year. It is not like you will be able to head down to the AD and purchase it the following weekend. You will be waiting until the end of the summer at best or the end of the year at worst to get your hands on one at full msrp with no discounts. If you want a deal on one, you will be waiting another 12-14 months.

Buy the 16600 now...it is one of the best watches I have ever owned, and like Cru said, even if they do release a 42mm version, it won't change how awesome the 16600 is. You will love it.

Tools · 3 March 2014, 05:19 AM

Rolex doesn't operate like other companies where they change their models every couple of years to spark interest..

There isn't any significant difference between the current 43/44mm DSSD and 42mm.. If you want the DSSD lite, you get a Sub; there just is not any place in the line-up for a 42mm Diver at all. I can't understand why anybody thinks so..

Rolex usually does something new to a model around 10 years. They just did the "new" GMT blnr,

Look to the Air King getting a big-brother, maybe some muscle on the YM.. But I think that now they have the Tudor in the US market again, that is where you will see the emphasis..

Coubs · 3 March 2014, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Look to the Air King getting a big-brother, maybe some muscle on the YM.. But I think that now they have the Tudor in the US market again, that is where you will see the emphasis..

Really like the idea of an Air King II

3 March 2014, 04:00 AM	#1
BJHofkin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 259	Sea Dweller: Worth Waiting for Basel? I'm planning on picking up a mint, late-model 16600 as my first Rolex. The only thing that would get in the way at this point would be the introduction of an all-new Sea Dweller smaller and thinner than the Deep Sea (which is way too big for me). There's been much discussion here on such a watch and the likelihood of its introduction; although I think it'd be an ENORMOUS hit, I think it's unlikely Rolex would introduce such a model only 6 years after the Deep Sea and only a few after the SubC update. That said, all the other sports models have been updated recently too, and I think Rolex will do SOMETHING with one of its SS sports models. A new bezel for the GMT, perhaps, but the BLNR is only a year old, so I'm not sure about that either. In sum, I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that we will in fact see a new Sea Dweller this year. My question is, do you think the likelihood is high enough to warrant waiting on picking up a 16600? I'm getting itchy, but Basel is less than a month way…

3 March 2014, 04:18 AM	#6
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	Basel is only a few weeks away, so I'd wait for it and only make a decision after having seen what the new models would be. However, I seriously doubt Rolex would introduce a new SD. I suspect the news this year will be all about precious metals, and the show will be stolen by the ceramic bezeled gold Daytonas. I may be wrong though __________________ "In an age of obsolescence and gimmickry, this simple classic virtue of a Rolex is indeed a rarity." (Rolex ad from 1974)

3 March 2014, 04:56 AM	#8
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	Never regret to get 16600 even if a new one comes out __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

3 March 2014, 05:07 AM	#28
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	The Deep Sea and the original Sea Dweller have always been fringe pieces that appeal to a more limited market than the standard Submariner. Rolex poured a ton of R&D money into the DSSD to show what they were truly capable of. In my opinion, a 42mm Sea Dweller would be the perfect watch, but it is not going to happen, because it would cannibalize sales of the DSSD and IMO it would make their lineup of divers watches too congested (and slightly confusing to the lay person). On the other hand, let's assume that I am completely wrong and Rolex does release a 42mm Sea Dweller at Basel this year. It is not like you will be able to head down to the AD and purchase it the following weekend. You will be waiting until the end of the summer at best or the end of the year at worst to get your hands on one at full msrp with no discounts. If you want a deal on one, you will be waiting another 12-14 months. Buy the 16600 now...it is one of the best watches I have ever owned, and like Cru said, even if they do release a 42mm version, it won't change how awesome the 16600 is. You will love it. __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

3 March 2014, 05:19 AM	#29
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Rolex doesn't operate like other companies where they change their models every couple of years to spark interest.. There isn't any significant difference between the current 43/44mm DSSD and 42mm.. If you want the DSSD lite, you get a Sub; there just is not any place in the line-up for a 42mm Diver at all. I can't understand why anybody thinks so.. Rolex usually does something new to a model around 10 years. They just did the "new" GMT blnr, Look to the Air King getting a big-brother, maybe some muscle on the YM.. But I think that now they have the Tudor in the US market again, that is where you will see the emphasis.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

3 March 2014, 04:02 AM	#2
AF_Rob "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Rob Location: Virginia Watch: Sub/Polar/OP/BB Posts: 4,674	If you're getting itchy already, even if they do release a new SD this year, you will be waiting most of it to get your hands on one.

3 March 2014, 04:02 AM	#3
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Considering a 16600 is so different than any potential releases, no.

3 March 2014, 04:03 AM	#5
emurray703 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Eric Location: Nashville Posts: 109	I sure hope. A 42 mm SD would sell like crazy. I may hang out at the AD on Feb 27th so I can be first in the list just in case.

3 March 2014, 04:28 AM	#7
DamageInc.77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Denmark Watch: UJ Alfred 40 Posts: 216	Get the 16600 before someone else does. The 16600 is a perfect watch, and is worth owning no matter what new watch comes out.

3 March 2014, 04:58 AM	#9
CDNWatchNut "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Sherwood Park, Ab Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,509	I would go with the buy what you want now philosophy as well. Maybe a new version of SD will come out, but even so, it isn't going to be too difficult to sell a 16600 SD down the road, IMO.

3 March 2014, 04:59 AM	#13
Wesley Crusher "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Wes Location: Holosuite Posts: 6,345	I don't understand why people think that Rolex may come out with a 42mm SD. It's not going to happen.

4 March 2014, 04:10 AM	#24
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,136	Whilst it might be a nice thought, it seems unlikely that a new SD will appear anytime soon. Rolex must have invested considerable finance in the Deepsea and only a few years back. Good as the Deepsea is, any new SD would surely impact negatively on it? There are still plenty of 16600 SDs about, so anyone thinking along those lines could do a lot worse than grabbing one ....or two...now!

3 March 2014, 04:59 AM	#26
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,301	It's not gonna happen. Even if it were to happen, it wouldn't change how awesome the SD is......

3 March 2014, 05:08 AM	#27
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	My crystal ball tells me you should get the SD now. Even in the unlikely event that a revised diving model does appear, who's to say it's going to be exactly what you're expecting? Also, as has been said previously, whatever new watches are released at Basel won't reach ADs until much later in the year.

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