The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Vintage Rolex Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 29 May 2014, 02:50 PM   #1
anthoniejordan
"TRF" Member
 
anthoniejordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Calgary, AB CAN
Posts: 10
Icon20 Rolex Explorer II (1655) - Help Needed!

Long story short, I'm a young watch collector who just hit the Rolex jackpot. My uncle gave me his vintage Rolex for my 30th birthday; which turned out to be the "Steve McQueen" Explorer II. He had no idea what he was passing down (neither did I) until I brought it in to a local Rolex expert. After learning the value and rarity of the watch, I felt obligated to offer the watch back to my uncle - lucky for me, he let me keep it.

Any general information or advice on restoration would be greatly appreciated. One concern I have is all the readings I've come across, say the Steve McQueen 1655 made its debut in 1971, this watch was produced in 1969 (serial number 277XXXX). Is this a good or bad thing?

Thank you in advance for the guidance!

AJS
anthoniejordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 May 2014, 08:36 PM   #2
R.W.T.
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 2,004
I assure you that 2,77x,xxx is 1971. But that puts it kind of right in the middle the very first year.

How about some photos?...and probably better that you not do anything to it except have the movement serviced at some point and replace the gaskets and water test unless the bracelet is falling apart etc. Did he keep any of the original paperwork or boxes, tags, etc. ? Does he have any service history? These are things that are nice to have and know about.

Lucky you!
R.W.T. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 May 2014, 09:12 PM   #3
Mark020
"TRF" Member
 
Mark020's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 2,133
Post some pics. And don't let official Rolex dealers come close to it.
Mark020 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 May 2014, 10:30 PM   #4
Max72
"TRF" Member
 
Max72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Chicago
Watch: Explorer II 1655
Posts: 220
You are a very lucky man! And as Mark020 said, keep the RSC and AD away from it. If in need of servicing there's plenty of knowledgeable and expert watchmakers that you can be directed to from this forum. The Rolex guys would change and keep the original parts at their discretion grossly depreciating your watch.
Now, post some pictures please!!!!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Greetings from Chicago
Max72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 May 2014, 11:28 PM   #5
SkooterNB
"TRF" Member
 
SkooterNB's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Real Name: Nate
Location: NM
Posts: 167
Pictures!!! And I echo what everyone has said already, no Rolex and no AD!
SkooterNB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 May 2014, 12:15 AM   #6
ExplorerChris
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Real Name: Chris
Location: Ontario, Canada
Watch: Explorer II 16550
Posts: 1,401
Very sweet heirloom indeed.
Post some pics and keep it as close to original as possible don't mess with perfection.
__________________
There's a crown for every achievement

A Watch Is Just A Watch
A Rolex Is A Timepiece
ExplorerChris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 May 2014, 09:02 AM   #7
anthoniejordan
"TRF" Member
 
anthoniejordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Calgary, AB CAN
Posts: 10
Thank you all for the quick responses - I'll be posting pictures tomorrow.

Along with the watch, my uncle gave me all the original papers and even the original purchase receipt. Right now the watch is 100% original, it's never been serviced or sent away to Rolex; great for originality but I'm sure the watch could use some internal work. After reading all your responses, aside from servicing the movement and seals, I won't do a thing (including polishing). The original bracelet is broken, but I have all the links and pieces. Do I get that fixed or do I add an authentic Rolex leather band and use the original clasp?

If there's any additional advice, I welcome it! If not, I will post some picture as soon as possible.
anthoniejordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 May 2014, 09:35 AM   #8
Rickster
"TRF" Member
 
Rickster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Real Name: Rick
Location: London, Ont.
Posts: 666
Wow congrats
Rickster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 May 2014, 10:47 AM   #9
ExplorerChris
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Real Name: Chris
Location: Ontario, Canada
Watch: Explorer II 16550
Posts: 1,401
Looking forward to the pics.
If it were mine I'd get the bracelet fixed.
All original is a very cool thing.
__________________
There's a crown for every achievement

A Watch Is Just A Watch
A Rolex Is A Timepiece
ExplorerChris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 May 2014, 11:08 AM   #10
anthoniejordan
"TRF" Member
 
anthoniejordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Calgary, AB CAN
Posts: 10
Here she is.

The condition looks worse in the picture than in real life.

The hands have all faded, but like I mentioned, the watch is 100% original and has never been serviced or sent away.
Attached Images
 
anthoniejordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 May 2014, 11:12 AM   #11
Lgear080
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NYC
Posts: 3,506
Very very nice. Frankly I'd suggest you source a nice box if he didn't keep that
And put it away. Find yourself a watch which fits your wants today.

Wear your uncles watch later in life.

Definitely don't sell it.
Lgear080 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 May 2014, 11:32 AM   #12
Kingair
"TRF" Member
 
Kingair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: USA
Watch: Not enough ;-)
Posts: 21,232
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lgear080 View Post

Definitely don't sell it.
Or . . . only to me

Congrats

HAGOne

Kingair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 May 2014, 11:30 AM   #13
donaker
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Canada
Watch: Dad's 5508
Posts: 355
What a beauty. Congrats!

A movement service by one of the recommended watch techs mentioned in this forum would be wise. I sent mine (which was in way worse condition) to Bob Ridley, but I've heard great things about Rikki and ABC as well.

Micheal Young seems to be the go-to guy for bracelet repair.

That and a bit of polywatch should have it looking perfect.
__________________
donaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 May 2014, 10:56 PM   #14
watchcrank
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: michael
Location: Florida
Watch: explorer II cream
Posts: 1,664
ABC could polish the case and it would look new. A good service by any of the above recommendations and I'd wear it as much as comfortable. That's what they were made for. m
watchcrank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2014, 12:27 AM   #15
anthoniejordan
"TRF" Member
 
anthoniejordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Calgary, AB CAN
Posts: 10
What is a watch like this worth? And am I going to have trouble insuring it through the same company that I insure my newer watches? If so, are there any recommendations for a company that insures vintage watchs?

Sorry for all the questions, this is the first vintage watch I've ever owned.
anthoniejordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2014, 01:25 AM   #16
Kingair
"TRF" Member
 
Kingair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: USA
Watch: Not enough ;-)
Posts: 21,232
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthoniejordan View Post
What is a watch like this worth? And am I going to have trouble insuring it through the same company that I insure my newer watches? If so, are there any recommendations for a company that insures vintage watchs?

Sorry for all the questions, this is the first vintage watch I've ever owned.
We'll I thought you where doing at least some research here on TRF

You know it is a 71 1655

Not hard to find a price

What is it with worth . . . ?

For some peanuts and for other people the end of the world . . .

But it was a really nice gift !

Listen to what people are telling you here on TRF

STAY AWAY FROM ANY ROLEX AD OR RSC !

They will ruin the watch for you

They are going to change the hands and dial . . . . be warned !

Read . . . read . . . and ASK before you take any decision . . . .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark020 View Post
And don't let official Rolex dealers come close to it.
HAGWe

Kingair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2014, 02:31 AM   #17
Vincent65
"TRF" Member
 
Vincent65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 14,298
nice one, congrats!
Vincent65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2014, 02:33 AM   #18
pdoukas
"TRF" Member
 
pdoukas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: Pete
Location: Arizona
Watch: ing Duke bball
Posts: 1,488
Freaking jackpot indeed. Please do not entertain any of the offers you are probably receiving in private. As others have said, ABC/Rikki/Bob Ridley can service your watch with special considerations to vintage pieces. Michael Young for the bracelet. Service it and wear it, as it was meant to be worn. Be careful though, it is valuable!


Sent from my mobile device. Please excuse spelling, punctuation, and brevity.
pdoukas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2014, 03:04 AM   #19
Mark020
"TRF" Member
 
Mark020's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 2,133
1971 should have a straight seconds hand isn't it?
Mark020 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2014, 03:05 AM   #20
anthoniejordan
"TRF" Member
 
anthoniejordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Calgary, AB CAN
Posts: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark020 View Post
1971 should have a straight seconds hand isn't it?
That's what I've been reading everywhere - which is the source of a lot of confusion. Like I stated before, it's never been serviced or sent away, and it's the earliest (lowest serial number) 1655 I can find any where on the internet - so why doesn't it have a straight second hand?
anthoniejordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 June 2014, 04:20 AM   #21
bearone2
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Arizona
Watch: 116713LN
Posts: 402
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark020 View Post
1971 should have a straight seconds hand isn't it?
yes it should have the straight hand like this one i've had for 40+ years.
it was purchased used in '73-74, so no box/papers & i wore it until nov '83 when it was replaced by the rootbeer gmt master.

does the back have to come off to find the s/n?
thanks
Attached Images
   
bearone2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 June 2014, 04:25 AM   #22
gerard88t
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Ask
Posts: 409
Wow! Such a lucky guy!
gerard88t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 June 2014, 08:33 AM   #23
SkooterNB
"TRF" Member
 
SkooterNB's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Real Name: Nate
Location: NM
Posts: 167
Quote:
Originally Posted by bearone2 View Post
yes it should have the straight hand like this one i've had for 40+ years.
it was purchased used in '73-74, so no box/papers & i wore it until nov '83 when it was replaced by the rootbeer gmt master.

does the back have to come off to find the s/n?
thanks
Serial is in between the lugs at six o'clock. You need to remove the bracelet.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk
SkooterNB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2014, 05:31 AM   #24
Rebel
"TRF" Member
 
Rebel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail
Location: New Albany
Watch: Tudor Sub 75090
Posts: 8,257
I am so happy for you. You have a great uncle. Very nice.
__________________
-------------------------------
Member of the Nylon Nation
Rebel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 May 2014, 06:17 AM   #25
adam78
"TRF" Member
 
adam78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,830
By the way, you might want to explore independent options in the Canada to service the watch. Sending a Rolex (even vintage) to and from USA can be particularly troublesome (the options noted in the thread are in the USA). Michael Young (for the bracelet) is in Hong Kong.
__________________
Cheers, Adam
adam78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 June 2014, 09:33 PM   #26
Lgear080
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NYC
Posts: 3,506
In a safety deposit box it need not be insured.

If you wear it I'd get a good appraisal for replacement value.
Lgear080 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 June 2014, 09:47 PM   #27
RC2
"TRF" Member
 
RC2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Real Name: Rich
Location: NC
Watch: Rolex 1675
Posts: 2,359
Check sales forum here. Most of those watches are in the 13-15k range


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Rich

Member of Nylon Nation
Red Sox Nation
Instagram watchguy97
RC2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 June 2014, 03:37 AM   #28
strafer_kid
"TRF" Member
 
strafer_kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Real Name: Kenny
Location: northern ireland
Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs
Posts: 5,136
That is one terrific gift! As the guys have already stated, take real care of it! It will probably need serviced at some point in the near future if it has not had one for a while. Trick is to get one of the trusted specialist guys to do it so it retains originality, rather than an RSC, although that said, they too will make it looks pretty good, albeit with replacement parts. In any event, congrats and enjoy!
strafer_kid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 June 2014, 03:58 PM   #29
RolexExplor
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: florida
Posts: 346
what was the deal with these.? did rolex change things when they were sent out for service
RolexExplor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 June 2014, 11:57 PM   #30
watchcrank
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: michael
Location: Florida
Watch: explorer II cream
Posts: 1,664
If you sent the watch to Rolex RSC or even if an in house or independent serviced the watch and the hand was not perfect or glowing they could have changed the hands. M
watchcrank is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

OCWatches

Wrist Aficionado

My Watch LLC

WatchesOff5th

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.