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CPTL · 22 March 2008, 03:55 AM

So...lots of speculation lately about what is in store. One that keeps popping up is a tribute to the Explorer-II with an orange 24-hr hand. I was just reading through one of Mike's old posts about the white-dial GMT that was made for Pan Am execs--that is one really cool watch.

So my question: who would like to see Rolex re-release some of these great vintage pieces, except with modern upgrades? I personally would love a white-dial Pepsi GMT-II (though no ceramic). Are y'all with me? Who thinks this would dilute the value and collectibility of the true vintage pieces?

SPACE-DWELLER · 22 March 2008, 04:04 AM

I'd love to see a modern Daytona 6263.

Or and SD exactly like the one we have now, just with a DOMED sapphire crystal to give it the "vintage plexi crystal" look of the 1665.

problmchylde · 22 March 2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

I'd love to see a modern Daytona 6263.

Or and SD exactly like the one we have now, just with a DOMED sapphire crystal to give it the "vintage plexi crystal" look of the 1665.

Agreed.Hoping to see a SD with a domed crystal...

SPACE-DWELLER · 22 March 2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by problmchylde

Agreed.Hoping to see a SD with a domed crystal...

Actually, I believe Rolex WILL eventually install domed crystals on ALL Rolex watches.

Because isince year 2000, the current DD's already have a (slightly) domed sapphire crystal (even though that crystal has the cyclops). So it IS possible!

Now, let's take a "historic" example:

Previously, the concealed clasp ("Crown Clasp") was reserved for the DD's on a President bracelet and the YG DJ's on a Jubilee bracelet.

Now, the STEEL and TT DJ's come on a Jubilee bracelet with Crown Clasp.

I could very well imagine the domed sapphire, currently reserved for the DD only, being introduced on the DJ soon and on all other Rolex models, eventually.

Spark · 22 March 2008, 08:43 PM

I for one don't really want to see an Orange hand Explorer II released as it will mean another few grand I've got to spend

As for vintage values the only possible effect would be positive, as I think it may get others interested in the vintage pieces, which would then push prices up not down.
All complete speculation, but what the hell.

Mark.

CPTL · 23 March 2008, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by funlab

i think the time is better spent on creating new pieces for us to enjoy that will grow to become the classics of tomorrow.

That is a really good point. Today's watches will be collectible some day, for what they are. They are the watches of today.

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Originally Posted by Spark

I for one don't really want to see an Orange hand Explorer II released as it will mean another few grand I've got to spend

Mark: I share your angst on this one. Either a white-dial Pepsi GMT or an orange-hand Explorer would really have me rethinking the completeness of my collection. Although I would want neither with an oversized case or ceramic bezel.

CoopJr · 22 March 2008, 04:06 AM

I'm with ya. I'm hoping for an orange hand explorer too.

buz-lh · 22 March 2008, 04:10 AM

I would love it and I don't think it would impact the value of the collectables at all.

eb641 · 22 March 2008, 06:52 AM

An automatic 6263 would be the same as entering nirvana, Valhalla or some other state or place of rapture!

PhilM · 22 March 2008, 07:10 AM

The Domed SD sounds interesting, but I'd prefer if they didn't put the CRB into the SD

etp095 · 22 March 2008, 07:32 AM

a white dialed pan am gmt and an orange hand expy would be at the top my list.

Chris B · 22 March 2008, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by etp095

a white dialed pan am gmt and an orange hand expy would be at the top my list.

x 2

While they're in the comemerating mood of late they should definately do that

mike · 22 March 2008, 08:52 AM

I guess I'm of two minds here. I would love to see a re-introduction of the orange hand EXP II--with maxi-dial, etc...... Trying to duplicate the great vintage pieces of old however (RED writing etc..) is something I'm not sure about. I WOULD be all over a matt maxi dial though!!

As to influencing the value of the vintage plastics?....Naw. Those are finite resources and a part of a great history...nothing can take away from that.

BuffaloRolex · 22 March 2008, 09:17 AM

A new 6263 would be incredible. I doubt it would happen, but I hope I'm wrong.

Beef · 22 March 2008, 09:41 AM

I would love to see the above two mentioned watches be released at Basel '08. It could get no better. We'll know in a few days.

juneja · 22 March 2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CPTL

So my question: who would like to see Rolex re-release some of these great vintage pieces, except with modern upgrades?... Who thinks this would dilute the value and collectibility of the true vintage pieces?

Personally I love the vintage pieces, and I don't think modern versions would dilute them one bit - I mean, out of the two below, I know which I'd rather have, even if the newer one is more practical

funlab · 22 March 2008, 01:51 PM

i'm not a big fan of revivals. there is some unique quality that makes these old watches the beautiful classics they are, and that should be left alone.

i think the time is better spent on creating new pieces for us to enjoy that will grow to become the classics of tomorrow. after all, you can't take away the heritage and tradition that exists today, that will be a part of every watch rolex creates, the great ones and even the not so great ones.

nsolga · 22 March 2008, 04:17 PM

old is better !!!!!!

applebook · 23 March 2008, 08:48 AM

Domed crystals with anti-glare on the inside are a must. They add so much more dimension and character to the dial and the watch overall.

SPACE-DWELLER · 23 March 2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by applebook

Domed crystals with anti-glare on the inside are a must. They add so much more dimension and character to the dial and the watch overall.

I agree with you 100 %.

mickeydainish · 23 March 2008, 08:53 AM

Oh baby... an SD with a domed crystal. Now that sounds gr8! Very retro. :-)

Welshwatchman · 23 March 2008, 09:02 AM

A re-working of the 6263, Matt dial Red Sub, SMq Explorer.

Not going to happen though, the torturers.

ROLEX MAN · 23 March 2008, 10:08 PM

hand wind???

22 March 2008, 03:55 AM	#1
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	Musings on Basel and vintage So...lots of speculation lately about what is in store. One that keeps popping up is a tribute to the Explorer-II with an orange 24-hr hand. I was just reading through one of Mike's old posts about the white-dial GMT that was made for Pan Am execs--that is one really cool watch. So my question: who would like to see Rolex re-release some of these great vintage pieces, except with modern upgrades? I personally would love a white-dial Pepsi GMT-II (though no ceramic). Are y'all with me? Who thinks this would dilute the value and collectibility of the true vintage pieces? __________________ 16610 Submariner Date; D Serial 16234 DateJust SS with WG Fluted Bezel & Jubillee, White Roman Dial; F Serial 16570 Explorer II White Dial; M Serial And Hers: 78240 Mid-Size DateJust SS with Domed Bezel & Oyster, White Roman; D Serial

22 March 2008, 04:04 AM	#2
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	I'd love to see a modern Daytona 6263. Or and SD exactly like the one we have now, just with a DOMED sapphire crystal to give it the "vintage plexi crystal" look of the 1665. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

22 March 2008, 04:10 AM	#8
buz-lh "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Buz Location: Atlanta Watch: Rolex Tudor Pam Posts: 5,108	I would love it and I don't think it would impact the value of the collectables at all. Attached Images __________________ Buz The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live. Peter Diamandis

22 March 2008, 07:32 AM	#11
etp095 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: rudolph Location: chicago burbs Posts: 2,026	a white dialed pan am gmt and an orange hand expy would be at the top my list. __________________ tt date circa 69' 5513 circa 81' ss sub w/date (z) pepsi gmt for dad(D) polar expy II(z) 1675 gmt circa 68' ladies datejust on jubilee for mom (z) sea dweller16600(M) SS Sub-C(g) Omega Planet Ocean,45.5 on mesh(2500D)

22 March 2008, 09:41 AM	#15
Beef "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,824	I would love to see the above two mentioned watches be released at Basel '08. It could get no better. We'll know in a few days. __________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." "So you have enemies. Good. You must have stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill

22 March 2008, 08:43 PM	#5
Spark "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Mark Location: U.K. Watch: Too Many Posts: 2,097	I for one don't really want to see an Orange hand Explorer II released as it will mean another few grand I've got to spend As for vintage values the only possible effect would be positive, as I think it may get others interested in the vintage pieces, which would then push prices up not down. All complete speculation, but what the hell. Mark.

22 March 2008, 04:06 AM	#7
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	I'm with ya. I'm hoping for an orange hand explorer too.

22 March 2008, 06:52 AM	#9
eb641 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 274	An automatic 6263 would be the same as entering nirvana, Valhalla or some other state or place of rapture!

22 March 2008, 07:10 AM	#10
PhilM "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: London Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,765	The Domed SD sounds interesting, but I'd prefer if they didn't put the CRB into the SD

22 March 2008, 08:52 AM	#13
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I guess I'm of two minds here. I would love to see a re-introduction of the orange hand EXP II--with maxi-dial, etc...... Trying to duplicate the great vintage pieces of old however (RED writing etc..) is something I'm not sure about. I WOULD be all over a matt maxi dial though!! As to influencing the value of the vintage plastics?....Naw. Those are finite resources and a part of a great history...nothing can take away from that.

22 March 2008, 09:17 AM	#14
BuffaloRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Tony Location: Buffalo Watch: 16613 (blue dial) Posts: 1,329	A new 6263 would be incredible. I doubt it would happen, but I hope I'm wrong.

22 March 2008, 01:51 PM	#17
funlab "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: David Location: US Posts: 347	i'm not a big fan of revivals. there is some unique quality that makes these old watches the beautiful classics they are, and that should be left alone. i think the time is better spent on creating new pieces for us to enjoy that will grow to become the classics of tomorrow. after all, you can't take away the heritage and tradition that exists today, that will be a part of every watch rolex creates, the great ones and even the not so great ones.

22 March 2008, 04:17 PM	#18
nsolga "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Nick Location: Sonoma Co., CA Watch: GMTIIc Posts: 798	old is better !!!!!! __________________ Present: 116710LN SS GMT-Master II C Past: 16610 SS Sub Date

23 March 2008, 08:48 AM	#19
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	Domed crystals with anti-glare on the inside are a must. They add so much more dimension and character to the dial and the watch overall. __________________

23 March 2008, 08:53 AM	#21
mickeydainish Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Michael Location: LaLa Land Watch: Sub Date 16610 Posts: 1,757	Oh baby... an SD with a domed crystal. Now that sounds gr8! Very retro. :-)

23 March 2008, 09:02 AM	#22
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	A re-working of the 6263, Matt dial Red Sub, SMq Explorer. Not going to happen though, the torturers.

23 March 2008, 10:08 PM	#23
ROLEX MAN 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: Home and Away Watch: you? "YES PLEASE"! Posts: 3,718	hand wind??? __________________ *it's not just about telling the time...* *happy rolexing...* I'm just a man with a passion

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