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jay_kay · 1 August 2014, 04:11 AM

After looking at thread after thread of comparison pics and peoples opinions and thoughts I had decided that as my 116613 wasn't getting worn or selling I would trade it in for the new 116600 and have that as team mate for my 16600.

I'm glad I went to see it in the metal rather than my usual ordering online and waiting for the postman!!

I had my original SD on and as soon as I saw the new 116600 I just knew it wasn't a watch for me. Granted the matte dial is lovely but there is little difference cosmetically, the 16600 just looks so much better proportioned with the lugs and smaller lume plots. The bracelet and clasp is a good improvement but i'd rather just track down a newer clasp for my standard SD's 93160A bracelet.

So now the question is......... what should I trade my 116613 LB in for?

brandrea · 1 August 2014, 04:14 AM

Knowing what you don't want is more than half the battle

Deciding what you do want is where the fun is

Racerdj · 2 August 2014, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Knowing what you don't want is more than half the battle

Deciding what you do want is where the fun is

Great thoughts

tkerrmd · 1 August 2014, 04:18 AM

you have a great watch why getting rid of the 116613?

jay_kay · 1 August 2014, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

you have a great watch why getting rid of the 116613?

Me and two tone just don't work

tkerrmd · 1 August 2014, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jay_kay

Me and two tone just don't work

roger that, good luck!

Rolex40mm · 1 August 2014, 04:25 AM

Thanks for the insight. I thought the SD 4000 would be similarly proportioned to the old SD. That's why it's always good to try watches on first, before buying.

luvsub · 1 August 2014, 04:49 AM

Full gold or SS. Maybe Daytona, or checkout whatever comes out on 4th.

Keith1 · 1 August 2014, 04:49 AM

How about a solid gold Submariner, either YG, or WG? You can still have the blue dial.

swish77 · 1 August 2014, 04:54 AM

Agree wholeheartedly about the SD4000. Not impressive (relatively speaking, of course.) I think there's a reason there are so many new SDs for sale on this forum and others for good discounts. It looks way too similar to the ND Sub-C. The classic ND Sub and SD seemingly had a lot more differences.

AK797 · 1 August 2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith1

How about a solid gold Submariner, either YG, or WG? You can still have the blue dial.

jay_kay · 1 August 2014, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith1

How about a solid gold Submariner, either YG, or WG? You can still have the blue dial.

A white gold Daytona is ideally what I'm after but I'd have to release something else as well and TBH there is nothing else in my line up that I want to get rid of

SWISSAHOLICS · 1 August 2014, 04:59 AM

GMT? Daytona?

travisb · 1 August 2014, 04:59 AM

Good thing you went to try it onon first.
Still countless options. Keep on hunting.

polarinda · 1 August 2014, 05:02 AM

Despite the upgrades of the new sd4000, the old sd is still a much better looking watch IMO. I think Rolex got it right the first time round...everytime.
I walked past an AD once with a sd4000 in display. Didn't even want to try it on. From afar, I know it's not for me, forgoing the price issue.

Ryuden · 1 August 2014, 05:17 AM

Maybe the upcoming new Blue Dssd?

The 16600 is a keeper.

Good luck in your future acquisition.

14060m · 1 August 2014, 05:57 AM

Keep your options open and don't rush into anything

joe100 · 1 August 2014, 06:42 AM

I kinda liked the 4000C and as everyone knows, I don't like anything! Ha!

mfserge · 1 August 2014, 01:01 PM

As a former 16600 owner and current 116600 owner, there is no question in my mind which one I prefer. Ceramic vs aluminum....check. SEL vs non SEL....check. Great clasp vs not so great clasp....check. Slightly larger lugs vs thin lugs....check. Larger markers and hands vs smaller markers and hands....check. Busier bezel vs clean bezel....push. Some people prefer the older dimensions of the SD and Sub and some prefer the new dimensions, to each is own but for me the 116600 is a huge winner.

leicashot · 1 August 2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mfserge

As a former 16600 owner and current 116600 owner, there is no question in my mind which one I prefer. Ceramic vs aluminum....check. SEL vs non SEL....check. Great clasp vs not so great clasp....check. Slightly larger lugs vs thin lugs....check. Larger markers and hands vs smaller markers and hands....check. Busier bezel vs clean bezel....push. Some people prefer the older dimensions of the SD and Sub and some prefer the new dimensions, to each is own but for me the 116600 is a huge winner.

Agreed. The SD is wonderful and a serious top end tool with modern luxuries to boot.

MortgageGuy · 15 August 2014, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by leicashot

Agreed. The SD is wonderful and a serious top end tool with modern luxuries to boot.

Couldn't agree more. I owned several 16600's over the last 15/20 years and yes it is/was a great piece it just doesn't compare to the new model SDC IMHO. Both beautiful references but I for one much prefer the newer model. To each their own and with any SD you really cannot go wrong

strafer_kid · 15 August 2014, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mfserge

As a former 16600 owner and current 116600 owner, there is no question in my mind which one I prefer. Ceramic vs aluminum....check. SEL vs non SEL....check. Great clasp vs not so great clasp....check. Slightly larger lugs vs thin lugs....check. Larger markers and hands vs smaller markers and hands....check. Busier bezel vs clean bezel....push. Some people prefer the older dimensions of the SD and Sub and some prefer the new dimensions, to each is own but for me the 116600 is a huge winner.

Both the new and older SDs have their good points - something there for everyone and great to have the choice!

Chute · 1 August 2014, 01:08 PM

I own the new 116600 and always wanted a Seadweller but was turned off by the old style bracelets. I really enjoy it but if I didn't, I would suggest a 114060 SubC no date or a GMTIIc. Both are great new generations and very comfortable ( read thinner) than the SDc.

Le Chef · 1 August 2014, 02:22 PM

After all the rah-rah I tried one on at the Rolex Boutique and left disappointed. It's unbalanced and top heavy compared to both SubC and DSSD. It's the watch that answers the question no one asked. Save your money and buy a SubC.

leicashot · 1 August 2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Chef

After all the rah-rah I tried one on at the Rolex Boutique and left disappointed. It's unbalanced and top heavy compared to both SubC and DSSD. It's the watch that answers the question no one asked. Save your money and buy a SubC.

Unbalanced compared to the DSSD? Are you kidding? :bang head:

Mfrankel2 · 15 August 2014, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by leicashot

Unbalanced compared to the DSSD? Are you kidding? :bang head:

Funny, I was at AD yesterday and felt the same. Itried them both on and the sdc actually felt more top heavy than the dssd

leicashot · 15 August 2014, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mfrankel2

Funny, I was at AD yesterday and felt the same. Itried them both on and the sdc actually felt more top heavy than the dssd

wow, physically thats not even possible haha

Touring · 15 August 2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mfrankel2

Funny, I was at AD yesterday and felt the same. Itried them both on and the sdc actually felt more top heavy than the dssd

I wonder if that's due to the larger case of the DSSD, which might distribute the weight more evenly across the wrist than the smaller diameter SD.

I definitely noticed how much more "top-heavy" and unbalanced the 116600 feels compared to the old 16600, but only when the bracelet is unsized; once the bracelet is properly fitted, the fit and feel of the 116000 is perfect.

leicashot · 15 August 2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Touring

I wonder if that's due to the larger case of the DSSD, which might distribute the weight more evenly across the wrist than the smaller diameter SD.

I definitely noticed how much more "top-heavy" and unbalanced the 116600 feels compared to the old 16600, but only when the bracelet is unsized; once the bracelet is properly fitted, the fit and feel of the 116000 is perfect.

Weight to size ratio works in favour of the SD4000. I had both together recently, both sized and they are like night and day.

Nycturbovr6 · 1 August 2014, 04:13 PM

I have yet to try one on at an ad

1 August 2014, 04:11 AM	#1
jay_kay "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Barrowford Watch: Tudor Black Bay 54 Posts: 1,699	New Sea-Dweller 4000 gets a thumbs down from me :-( After looking at thread after thread of comparison pics and peoples opinions and thoughts I had decided that as my 116613 wasn't getting worn or selling I would trade it in for the new 116600 and have that as team mate for my 16600. I'm glad I went to see it in the metal rather than my usual ordering online and waiting for the postman!! I had my original SD on and as soon as I saw the new 116600 I just knew it wasn't a watch for me. Granted the matte dial is lovely but there is little difference cosmetically, the 16600 just looks so much better proportioned with the lugs and smaller lume plots. The bracelet and clasp is a good improvement but i'd rather just track down a newer clasp for my standard SD's 93160A bracelet. So now the question is......... what should I trade my 116613 LB in for? __________________ Rolex Explorer 214270, Omega Speedmaster '1957 Relaunch' 3594.50.00, Panerai Luminor 1950 PAM00127-E, Panerai Radiomir 1936 PAM00249-I, Panerai Mare Nostrum PAM00716-T, Panerai PAM00785-Q Set, Panerai Luminor Black Seal PAM00594-Q, Panerai Luminor Daylight PAM00604-Q, Tudor Black Bay 54 79000N, Heuer Carrera Re-Edition CS3113, Hamilton Military W10 & TAG Heuer F1

1 August 2014, 04:59 AM	#13
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1 August 2014, 05:57 AM	#17
14060m "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Watch: 116610 , 16233 Posts: 1,802	Keep your options open and don't rush into anything __________________

1 August 2014, 06:42 AM	#18
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	I kinda liked the 4000C and as everyone knows, I don't like anything! Ha! __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

1 August 2014, 02:22 PM	#24
Le Chef "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,005	Tried and rejected After all the rah-rah I tried one on at the Rolex Boutique and left disappointed. It's unbalanced and top heavy compared to both SubC and DSSD. It's the watch that answers the question no one asked. Save your money and buy a SubC.

1 August 2014, 04:14 AM	#2
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,091	Knowing what you don't want is more than half the battle Deciding what you do want is where the fun is

1 August 2014, 04:18 AM	#4
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	you have a great watch why getting rid of the 116613?

1 August 2014, 04:25 AM	#7
Rolex40mm Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 373	Thanks for the insight. I thought the SD 4000 would be similarly proportioned to the old SD. That's why it's always good to try watches on first, before buying.

1 August 2014, 04:49 AM	#8
luvsub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SF, south bay Posts: 5,222	Full gold or SS. Maybe Daytona, or checkout whatever comes out on 4th.

1 August 2014, 04:49 AM	#9
Keith1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: San Diego Watch: Sub-C blue, DSSD Posts: 2,482	How about a solid gold Submariner, either YG, or WG? You can still have the blue dial.

1 August 2014, 04:54 AM	#10
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,999	Agree wholeheartedly about the SD4000. Not impressive (relatively speaking, of course.) I think there's a reason there are so many new SDs for sale on this forum and others for good discounts. It looks way too similar to the ND Sub-C. The classic ND Sub and SD seemingly had a lot more differences.

1 August 2014, 04:59 AM	#14
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,489	Good thing you went to try it onon first. Still countless options. Keep on hunting.

1 August 2014, 05:02 AM	#15
polarinda "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Trav Location: singapore Watch: it Posts: 2,316	Despite the upgrades of the new sd4000, the old sd is still a much better looking watch IMO. I think Rolex got it right the first time round...everytime. I walked past an AD once with a sd4000 in display. Didn't even want to try it on. From afar, I know it's not for me, forgoing the price issue.

1 August 2014, 05:17 AM	#16
Ryuden "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Miki Location: SG Posts: 1,575	Maybe the upcoming new Blue Dssd? The 16600 is a keeper. Good luck in your future acquisition.

1 August 2014, 01:01 PM	#19
mfserge Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Watch: YM40 Rhodium Posts: 901	As a former 16600 owner and current 116600 owner, there is no question in my mind which one I prefer. Ceramic vs aluminum....check. SEL vs non SEL....check. Great clasp vs not so great clasp....check. Slightly larger lugs vs thin lugs....check. Larger markers and hands vs smaller markers and hands....check. Busier bezel vs clean bezel....push. Some people prefer the older dimensions of the SD and Sub and some prefer the new dimensions, to each is own but for me the 116600 is a huge winner.

1 August 2014, 01:08 PM	#23
Chute "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: Austin Watch: 6 digit Rolex+APRO Posts: 1,561	I own the new 116600 and always wanted a Seadweller but was turned off by the old style bracelets. I really enjoy it but if I didn't, I would suggest a 114060 SubC no date or a GMTIIc. Both are great new generations and very comfortable ( read thinner) than the SDc.

1 August 2014, 04:13 PM	#30
Nycturbovr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New York Posts: 7,630	I have yet to try one on at an ad

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