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Old 1 October 2014, 06:46 AM   #1
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Daytona doesn't equal 40mm, what else are they exaggerating?

A while back I read that the Daytona was smaller than 40mm. I put it to the test. I am kinda anal when it comes to measurements and accuracy. Rolex says the Daytona is a 40mm case. When I measure it with a set of digital calipers I get 38.55mm. Is this only true on the SS version of the Daytona? It does kind of make me wonder what else they are exaggerating. Has anyone measured their Rolex watch case to see what the real size is?

I did measure all my other watches and found them all to be true to their advertised sizes.

I went and measured my wife's watch a 31mm Datejust. It came to 31.54mm
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Old 1 October 2014, 07:03 AM   #2
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Old 2 October 2014, 08:09 AM   #3
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Old 1 October 2014, 07:07 AM   #4
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Never measured any watch but it is known that Daytonas do wear smaller than other Rolex sports models.
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Old 1 October 2014, 09:40 AM   #5
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Never measured any watch but it is known that Daytonas do wear smaller than other Rolex sports models.

...which is just the way I like it.


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Old 1 October 2014, 07:18 AM   #6
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I read somewhere that the 16570 is actually 39 mm and not 40 mm. Not that it really matters.
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Old 1 October 2014, 07:28 AM   #7
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Did you measure the bezel, or the sides? Hard to do accurately 9 to 3, but the side of the case bulges out a bit more than the edge of the bezel.
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Is there a standard measurement practice for all watch cases ?
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Old 1 October 2014, 07:59 AM   #9
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guess that explains why it wears smaller that a 40mm. i know my polar exp2 wears smaller than my 16610, hard to imagine that 1mm makes a difference if its indeed 39mm
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This is like measuring your private parts. Some times you don't want to know specifics, and just go with a rough estimate, rounding up of course
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This is like measuring your private parts. Some times you don't want to know specifics, and just go with a rough estimate, rounding up of course
OK, I'll try that.. I'll get my yard-ruler out now

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Old 1 October 2014, 12:24 PM   #14
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No wonder my Rolex is the least accurate of all my watches ... They just do enough to make sure it runs somewhat accurate , who cares about the details like ensuring proper measurement for case size... Just round them up... It's only a " timepiece "....by the way, Daytona's are not "40" ... 39 if that, and those of you who think it doesn't make a difference, think again, it's a psychological issue, knowing something is 39mm is different than telling you it's 40 and you know it's not... Some sellers here have resorted to such tactics, describing their watch is " 40" when the manufacturer says otherwise ... So why would the seller do that?? Because that extra 1mm becomes an issues when we decide to purchase.... I find such tactic misleading and dishonest...therefore, Rolex is misleading and dishonest when they can't provide proper measurement ... SubC 40??? I don't think so....
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No wonder my Rolex is the least accurate of all my watches ... They just do enough to make sure it runs somewhat accurate , who cares about the details like ensuring proper measurement for case size... Just round them up... It's only a " timepiece "....by the way, Daytona's are not "40" ... 39 if that, and those of you who think it doesn't make a difference, think again, it's a psychological issue, knowing something is 39mm is different than telling you it's 40 and you know it's not... Some sellers here have resorted to such tactics, describing their watch is " 40" when the manufacturer says otherwise ... So why would the seller do that?? Because that extra 1mm becomes an issues when we decide to purchase.... I find such tactic misleading and dishonest...therefore, Rolex is misleading and dishonest when they can't provide proper measurement ... SubC 40??? I don't think so....
This is the most ridiculous post I've read on this site in a very long time.
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This is the most ridiculous post I've read on this site in a very long time.
What worst than my posts?......
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This is the most ridiculous post I've read on this site in a very long time.

Your opinion of my opinion, I find equally ridiculous....
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Old 3 October 2014, 06:43 AM   #19
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Hope you're not gonna post a pic with a caliper, John.
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Old 1 October 2014, 08:11 AM   #21
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This chart is helpful. http://cockmaker.com.au/rolex_case_size.html
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Old 1 October 2014, 09:57 PM   #22
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Good chart but why no DJII??? That's the one I'm curious about
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Old 1 October 2014, 10:08 PM   #23
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Good chart but why no DJII??? That's the one I'm curious about
I looked at that chart too, and agree its pretty good. But my guess is it's older and hasn't been updated to reflect the most recent changes in the rolex line up. For instance my wife's 31mm Datejust measured larger than that chart.

I measured in three locations taking three measurments in each. The round bezel, from 1:30 to 6:30 & 4:30 to 10:30. These locations are just below and above the pushers. All my measurements where consistent and returned 38.5-38.55. I gave the size the benifit of the doubt and went with the larger 38.55mm

This thread has brought out some of the most childish comments. It's unfortunate...

This thread also isn't just a Daytona thread. Its about sizing and like what the chart reflects. All the watches seem to be effected.
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This thread also isn't just a Daytona thread. Its about sizing and like what the chart reflects. All the watches seem to be effected.
The issue is that most people 99% probably buy visually and by feeling, not with callipers. The Deepsea is not 44mm more like 43.7 or something. Do I care, nope. Numbers don't mean anything except to give my brain an idea of what I'm to expect based on what I already feel comfortable with.
I do know I like the Daytona and it's "small" size, 39, 40, whatever. Look at what Rolex did with the Sub, made it look bigger but it's still 40mm. AP does the same because their watches lack traditional lugs so the watch looks bigger, but it's all about feel and sight, not callipers.

If this is an advertising or legal issue for you then that's another story. Before we throw numbers at Rolex you need to see their design blueprints(not happening) to understand exactly what they assess in the context of each reference for measuring and at what point do they round up or down and why. There's a lot more I'm sure to consider, but goodness gracious, would this really deter anyone from buying a Rolex.

Have you measured AP's watches or Patek's. Is this really a consideration when buying a watch, I like it but..... one second while I pull out my callipers and confirm the thickness is what you say it is, and do you mind if I weigh it to establish the actual weight.....

I just don't get how this is significant....my friends who aren't wis couldn't even tell the difference between my LVc and my buddies regular LV, until I specifically put my LVc's dial in the light. Most buyers walk into an AD and look for what they want and try it on and decide based on that. They'll just see a DJ and say yes I like the smaller one or no I like this bigger one, looks better. They have no idea one is 36mm and the other 41mm, or 37mm and 41.5.
Doesn't matter, in my opinion. Hopefully you can get some resolution to this problem with these measurements for yourself.
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The issue is that most people 99% probably buy visually and by feeling, not with callipers. The Deepsea is not 44mm more like 43.7 or something. Do I care, nope. Numbers don't mean anything except to give my brain an idea of what I'm to expect based on what I already feel comfortable with.
I do know I like the Daytona and it's "small" size, 39, 40, whatever. Look at what Rolex did with the Sub, made it look bigger but it's still 40mm. AP does the same because their watches lack traditional lugs so the watch looks bigger, but it's all about feel and sight, not callipers.

If this is an advertising or legal issue for you then that's another story. Before we throw numbers at Rolex you need to see their design blueprints(not happening) to understand exactly what they assess in the context of each reference for measuring and at what point do they round up or down and why. There's a lot more I'm sure to consider, but goodness gracious, would this really deter anyone from buying a Rolex.

Have you measured AP's watches or Patek's. Is this really a consideration when buying a watch, I like it but..... one second while I pull out my callipers and confirm the thickness is what you say it is, and do you mind if I weigh it to establish the actual weight.....

I just don't get how this is significant....my friends who aren't wis couldn't even tell the difference between my LVc and my buddies regular LV, until I specifically put my LVc's dial in the light. Most buyers walk into an AD and look for what they want and try it on and decide based on that. They'll just see a DJ and say yes I like the smaller one or no I like this bigger one, looks better. They have no idea one is 36mm and the other 41mm, or 37mm and 41.5.
Doesn't matter, in my opinion. Hopefully you can get some resolution to this problem with these measurements for yourself.
I like you a lot today, Rashid...You make a lotta sense, my brother. I agree with all of your main points but especially the part about the blueprints. Basing this whole thing on one guy's not necessarily accurate hand/calipre measurement makes it all the more banal.
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Nice typo there by the way...

I love my Daytona and don't really care much what the exact dimensions are, but someone brought up a good point - if they're happy to list the Explorer as 39mm, why wouldn't they do the same with the Daytona?
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Nice typo there by the way...
Yeah I thought that was pretty funny, especially with the post a couple of replies above...
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Um, think you made a Freudian slip there....
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