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rouxeny · 2 November 2014, 03:36 PM

I own a Rolex blue YM (116622) and am possibly interested in a Panerai, just to add something different.

I'd like a Luminor with a date (Ideally with date bubble), an in-house movement, and a display back. From what I can tell on the website, that does not exist?

The 1950's luminor does not have a date bubble and the newer versions don't seem to have a display back?

Lastrolex · 2 November 2014, 04:11 PM

Compare the 104 and 312. The 104 has the luminor case and is thinner. The ETA movement is COSC certified. Mine is running -0.5 seconds per day. It also has the sausage dial as opposed to the sandwich dial.

Cru Jones · 2 November 2014, 08:58 PM

Panerai seems to be moving away from the bubble, with none of their inhouse offerings featuring one. Moreover, for many, it's a polarizing issue on a Panerai, with "Paneristi" generally not being in favor of it (complicates design, is totally unrelated to the brand's history).

That being said, my only Panerai has a date bubble. I like it for the magnification, I like that it is inverted, so that it doesn't have the "Rolex" look, and I like the balance it gives to the dial across from the seconds dial.

As for OP's ETA models, the movements are top grade ETA modified by Panerai and easily serviced by any quality technician, and they are time-tested and solid. Get 'em while you can.

So...in my opinion, get what you like and don't worry about an "inhouse" label or if some will frown about the bubble.... I know I smile when I look at my watch.

Aventura · 2 November 2014, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lastrolex

Compare the 104 and 312. The 104 has the luminor case and is thinner. The ETA movement is COSC certified. Mine is running -0.5 seconds per day. It also has the sausage dial as opposed to the sandwich dial.

Hi Lastrolex
You say that the housing 104 is thinner than the 312? Not that the two models are Luminor?
Thanks.

Psmith · 12 November 2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aventura

Hi Lastrolex
You say that the housing 104 is thinner than the 312? Not that the two models are Luminor?
Thanks.

They are both Luminors, but the 104 has the 'Bettarini' case (same as the 111, 005, etc) whereas the 312 has the '1950' case (same as the 320, 233, etc)

rouxeny · 3 November 2014, 12:52 AM

Sorry, I don't know what sausage vs sandwich dial means.

Is the general difference between the 1950's case and Luminor the thickness? I've seen some Paneraimwith nice domes. Are those acrylic, and are those older, or current models?

Mastergreenhand · 6 November 2014, 04:19 PM

Sausage dial - check out the 000
Sandwich dial - check out the 112

The 1950s cases are taller because the auto movement p.9000 is very thick.

flatmad · 11 November 2014, 08:36 AM

I found the date magnifier on my 104 hard to read some times.. 312 gets my votes.

2 November 2014, 03:36 PM	#1
rouxeny "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Andrew Location: Maui Posts: 686	Interested in a Panerai - questions. I own a Rolex blue YM (116622) and am possibly interested in a Panerai, just to add something different. I'd like a Luminor with a date (Ideally with date bubble), an in-house movement, and a display back. From what I can tell on the website, that does not exist? The 1950's luminor does not have a date bubble and the newer versions don't seem to have a display back?

6 November 2014, 04:19 PM	#7
Mastergreenhand "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Tony Location: Chi-town Watch: Starbucks, Panerai Posts: 1,188	Sausage dial - check out the 000 Sandwich dial - check out the 112 The 1950s cases are taller because the auto movement p.9000 is very thick. __________________ Starbucks, Speedmaster Professional, PAM 212

2 November 2014, 04:11 PM	#2
Lastrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: United States Posts: 27	Compare the 104 and 312. The 104 has the luminor case and is thinner. The ETA movement is COSC certified. Mine is running -0.5 seconds per day. It also has the sausage dial as opposed to the sandwich dial.

2 November 2014, 08:58 PM	#3
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,296	Panerai seems to be moving away from the bubble, with none of their inhouse offerings featuring one. Moreover, for many, it's a polarizing issue on a Panerai, with "Paneristi" generally not being in favor of it (complicates design, is totally unrelated to the brand's history). That being said, my only Panerai has a date bubble. I like it for the magnification, I like that it is inverted, so that it doesn't have the "Rolex" look, and I like the balance it gives to the dial across from the seconds dial. As for OP's ETA models, the movements are top grade ETA modified by Panerai and easily serviced by any quality technician, and they are time-tested and solid. Get 'em while you can. So...in my opinion, get what you like and don't worry about an "inhouse" label or if some will frown about the bubble.... I know I smile when I look at my watch.

3 November 2014, 12:52 AM	#6
rouxeny "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Andrew Location: Maui Posts: 686	Sorry, I don't know what sausage vs sandwich dial means. Is the general difference between the 1950's case and Luminor the thickness? I've seen some Paneraimwith nice domes. Are those acrylic, and are those older, or current models?

11 November 2014, 08:36 AM	#8
flatmad "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Plano, Texas Watch: 116500 Posts: 167	I found the date magnifier on my 104 hard to read some times.. 312 gets my votes.

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