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18 April 2008, 09:13 PM | #1 |
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dating a 5512 sub
I have a fabulous sub that I am going to sell. I have tried to date it, but have found it's not that easy.
Model: Submariner 5512 with a 1.2 million serial number (no date). Problem is, I see that it is either 1964 or 1959, based on websites. I called my rolex dealer and he looked it up -- 1959 he said. I am still not sure, though, because I then saw that the word "superlative" was added later in the models. Can anyone help? Thanks |
18 April 2008, 09:18 PM | #2 |
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1.2million serial number is I believe late 1964.
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18 April 2008, 09:21 PM | #3 |
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Thanks lol-x. So it could not be 1959 you think?
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I don't know if the dial has been changed at some stage, but if that is the original dial, then it would not be a watch from the 1950's.
The first 5512 in the late 1950's had a gloss dial with a gilt chapter ring and without 'superlative chronometer officially certified' on the dial. That did not appear on the dials until the early to mid 1960's. Can you show a larger photograph with the shape of the crown guards?
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18 April 2008, 09:38 PM | #5 |
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hope this helps
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Welcome to TRF!
That's a great looking 5512! As far as I know the 5512 was introduced in 1959 and was discontinued around 1978.
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18 April 2008, 09:51 PM | #7 |
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By the way, what do you think could be the selling price? It is in excellent condition. Many thanks for your help -- very kind
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thanks for the welcome, space-dweller. Such nice people here!
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It's definitely not from the 1950s. Subs did not have Crown guards in the 1950s, and the 5512 was not marked as a chronometer until the introduction of the 5513 around 1963. Also, your watch has rounded crown guards, which were introduced after 1963. therefore, I believe you have a 1964 or 1965 5512 (like me!).
Also, Rolex reset its serial numbers to zero after it hit 1,000,000 around 1958. Therefore, a 1955 watch can have the same serial number as a 1961 watch.
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thanks subfiend -- very helpfull. Of course the differance in those years would make a huge differance to the worth.
You have one of these too? Have a picture? |
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Welcome To TRF...
WELCOME TO TRF, Dorian!!! What A SUB!!! Too bad if you want to sell it...
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Here are my vintage 5512, 5513 and 1680. I honestly don't know what these go for today, but I know the price has skyrocketed in the past year or two.
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Where did you find that, and what do you think it's worth? |
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19 April 2008, 02:26 AM | #15 |
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p.s. subfiend:
as I mentioned, it is a 1.2 million serial. Yours would have to also be around that, right? Also, you would then be perfect to ask about it's worth! |
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Nice watch
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20 April 2008, 06:51 AM | #18 |
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Well, here goes. I just listed it on ebay. Guess we'll see.
Subfiend: Super picture! Your style obviously goes further than just good taste in watches... |
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Thanks everyone.
I picked up the helmet on the Bay, It's authentic and cost a little bit, but not as much as the original 5512 brochures have been going for lately. There are a lot of fakes out there now. My sickness goes way beyond just collecting the watches. I am in to paraphenalia too. From the 1962 Rolex Submariner brochure: From the 1962 Rolex Sportsman's Handbook:
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Your "sickness" is our gain! VERY COOL!!!!!
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