To install or not to install...

[actionkwj]

Found this aftermarket ceramic insert for my 11613 since my bezel is scratched. changes the look a bit but nice May keep and install for a change of pace What does TRF think?

Pic has insert just laying on top and not yet installed








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[TimeToGo]

Have you checked with the RSC for an exchange/purchase?

That would be my preferred way..

[actionkwj]

No, the idea was to get the look of a newer 116613 on my older 11613. It's not a fake, it's just an aftermarket bezel. I know I can replace my aluminum bezel, but I wanted to see how this looked since Rolex doesn't make one of these for the older series Subs. To me it's a simple thing to change out if I want to install it or go back to the original. It's just a different look, but the newer watches with the ceramic bezels are a different look as well.

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Have you checked with the RSC for an exchange/purchase?

That would be my preferred way..

[Jason71]

Originally Posted by actionkwj

........It's not a fake, it's just an aftermarket bezel............

Aftermarket = Not OEM = Not Authentic = FAKE

I don't mind something aftermarket if it serves a purpose and isn't trying to be something it's not......such as a NATO strap or a RubberB. No mistaking either of those for an authentic Rolex bracelet. You are trying to make a 16613 look like its evolved sibling (the 116613) by installing a fake ceramic insert. I just don't think you will gain much support for doing something like this on this forum.

If you want a 116613, save your money and trade-up. Don't bastardize that poor 16613 to do it.

JMHO

[Thatguy]

Originally Posted by Jason71

Aftermarket = Not OEM = Not Authentic = FAKE

This sums it up.


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[Rolex addict]

Originally Posted by Jason71

Aftermarket = Not OEM = Not Authentic = FAKE

I don't mind something aftermarket if it serves a purpose and isn't trying to be something it's not......such as a NATO strap or a RubberB. No mistaking either of those for an authentic Rolex bracelet. You are trying to make a 16613 look like its evolved sibling (the 116613) by installing a fake ceramic insert. I just don't think you will gain much support for doing something like this on this forum.

If you want a 116613, save your money and trade-up. Don't bastardize that poor 16613 to do it.

JMHO

I just flipped my 16613 for a 116613. The ceramic bezel and bracelet upgrade are worth it!!!

[Jason71]

Originally Posted by Rolex addict

I just flipped my 16613 for a 116613. The ceramic bezel and bracelet upgrade are worth it!!!

[Jason71]

No aftermarket parts

[NukeMan]

Its a shame for such a nice watch not to have a genuine insert. Have you noticed that the peal is off center? Dont do it man.

[Rolex time is money]

Dont do it man. Wearing that expensive piece and with a aftermarket bezel in the back of your head... you will not enjoy it :)

[domrusso10]

Originally Posted by Rolex time is money

Dont do it man. Wearing that expensive piece and with a aftermarket bezel in the back of your head... you will not enjoy it :)

Agreed

[tegee26]

OEM is the only way to go IMHO!

[toneafficianado]

If it fits and an be swapped back to original easily then I say "do it!"
Please post pics! Love the Bluesy in all its incantations..

[AK797]

no fakes, ruins it all.

[Lgear080]

The tribe has spoken

[HogwldFLTR]

Why don't people get all bent out of shape over aftermarket straps and bracelets. I don't get the difference of the issue. Wear what ever bezel insert you want.

[Jason71]

Originally Posted by Jason71

Aftermarket = Not OEM = Not Authentic = FAKE

I don't mind something aftermarket if it serves a purpose and isn't trying to be something it's not......such as a NATO strap or a RubberB. No mistaking either of those for an authentic Rolex bracelet. You are trying to make a 16613 look like its evolved sibling (the 116613) by installing a fake ceramic insert. I just don't think you will gain much support for doing something like this on this forum.

If you want a 116613, save your money and trade-up. Don't bastardize that poor 16613 to do it.

JMHO

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Why don't people get all bent out of shape over aftermarket straps and bracelets. I don't get the difference of the issue. Wear what ever bezel insert you want.

That about sums up why I don't like it. Ultimately?? It's his dang watch and he's welcome to do whatever he pleases. To me it just seems like more of the poser mentality.

[Rolex addict]

I wouldn't. OEM parts only.

[bigwatchman]

It's your watch... Do what makes you happy as that's all that matters. I'm more interested in seeing if and how it fits.

[Old Expat Beast]

It cheapens the watch. If you're ok with that, go ahead.

[tkerrmd]

well its not hurting anything, if you like it so what leave it like that for a while, but I see a ceramic sub in your future!

[globalmedia33]

I would NOT do it.

[calj_whyte]

If a wall inside your home got damaged, would you rebuild it with paper mache?

[actionkwj]

Very interesting responses. I knew the vast majority would say stay OEM... and typically I'm in that camp as well. But honestly I don't mind trying new things on a watch as long as it doesn't permanently modify it. So trying different bracelets or straps or, on GMTs, different bezels, is all good. I really don't see any difference with the Sub since it's easy to change out the bezel and doesn't permanently modify the watch, but thanks to TRF I have now been shown THE WAY!

Really, I was curious to know if anyone thought it actually looked good whether they liked the idea or not. Seems like that's a bit too deep of a question for TRF on a Saturday! : )

TKerr... I think you're right. A ceramic bluesy probably will be in my future one day although I prefer the shape and thickness of the 16613.

Thanks, TRF... From "the cheap poser"

[Jason71]

Originally Posted by actionkwj

Very interesting responses. I knew the vast majority would say stay OEM... and typically I'm in that camp as well. But honestly I don't mind trying new things on a watch as long as it doesn't permanently modify it. So trying different bracelets or straps or, on GMTs, different bezels, is all good. I really don't see any difference with the Sub since it's easy to change out the bezel and doesn't permanently modify the watch, but thanks to TRF I have now been shown THE WAY!

Really, I was curious to know if anyone thought it actually looked good whether they liked the idea or not. Seems like that's a bit too deep of a question for TRF on a Saturday! : )

TKerr... I think you're right. A ceramic bluesy probably will be in my future one day although I prefer the shape and thickness of the 16613.

Thanks, TRF... From "the cheap poser"

I'm sorry if I came across as brash or if I offended you. Ultimately, it is your watch and you are happy with the look.......go for it. I guess where it upsets me is when someone tries to swindle some unsuspecting Newbie by passing something off as authentic and original. These watches are rather expensive, and there are opportunists trying to take advantage of people all the time. Obviously, that is not your intent. Enjoy your watch

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Jason71

I'm sorry if I came across as brash or if I offended you. Ultimately, it is your watch and you are happy with the look.......go for it. I guess where it upsets me is when someone tries to swindle some unsuspecting Newbie by passing something off as authentic and original. These watches are rather expensive, and there are opportunists trying to take advantage of people all the time. Obviously, that is not your intent. Enjoy your watch

No need to apologise Jason.

The OP asked for opinions and you gave him yours.

It is a fake bezel as is Lee's - enough said IMO.

This is a ROLEX Forum where fake watches/parts are not acceptable and I would expect these responses.

Shall we move this to the watchout section?

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by directioneng

This is a ROLEX Forum where fake watches/parts are not acceptable and I would expect these responses.

Shall we move this to the watchout section?

Should every watch showing other than the standard bracelet or strap be sent there as well. Seems like a really bogus sort of request. It's not a fake Rolex it would have been a modified one. I think that is a clear distinction. It's not being passed off as unmodified.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Should every watch showing other than the standard bracelet or strap be sent there as well. Seems like a really bogus sort of request. It's not a fake Rolex it would have been a modified one. I think that is a clear distinction. It's not being passed off as unmodified.

I take your point Lee.

I just think that I can sell an original Rolex watch on a NATO or a strap as an original Rolex head only - no bracelet.

It's only when modifications are made to the original heads or bracelets that the 'aftermarket' word comes into play.

Will 'or do' the two Rolex watches shown in the pix have Rolex bezels?

I shouldn't have to add that my posts are my opinions that can be accepted or rejected as such.

[brandrea]

Not here, sorry I prefer the original

[wmoore]

I like my watches and my vintage Corvettes the same way, with the parts they were born with.
Just my opinion, if you like it do it.
Cheers