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oooteedee · 4 January 2015, 02:04 PM

Hi guys - quick question...

My partner bought me a YG Sub (116618LN) for christmas. Lovely gesture and I really like it - however...

It only has 9 links - TOTAL. I think the dealer has pulled a fast one and used it for links for other sales and then sold this one with far too few links. Even at full 20mm extension it's not even close to going on my wrist and the links are super expensive each.

Before I start a war with the AD, can you comment? I was told elsewhere that an oyster bracelet should have 13 links as standard, is that right?

Thatguy · 4 January 2015, 02:08 PM

I thought subs had 13 but soon the experts will chime in.

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Keith1 · 4 January 2015, 02:13 PM

The 116618 YG comes with 12 links. Each additional full link costs $705.

The stainless & TT Submariner comes with 13 links.

Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger!

oooteedee · 4 January 2015, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith1

The 116618 YG comes with 12 links. Each additional full link costs $705.

The stainless & TT Submariner comes with 13 links.

Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger!

Thanks for the info - just out of curiosity, why does a gold sub come with 1 less link than an SS or TT? Just Rolex trying to make money? Are the gold ones bigger?

My WG GMT M II didn't have any problems :(

Alpino · 4 January 2015, 10:55 PM

.

97208 comes from factory with 13 links (just like the SS version 97200) :

. 6 removable links
. 1 half link
. (2x) 3 links attached to the SEL.

DHISTORY · 4 January 2015, 02:34 PM

Whomever the AD was, they definitely pulled a fast one. 3 links for a total of $2115? Ouch.

Let us know how it turns out. Good luck,

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Tools · 4 January 2015, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oooteedee

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It only has 9 links - TOTAL. I think the dealer has pulled a fast one and used it for links for other sales and then sold this one with far too few links. Even at full 20mm extension it's not even close to going on my wrist and the links are super expensive each.

Before I start a war with the AD, can you comment? I was told elsewhere that an oyster bracelet should have 13 links as standard, is that right?

A brand spankin' new one will come with 12 links plus a half link. If it was sold as used then it comes as-is and the Dealer doesn't owe you any extra links..

These are expensive and perhaps the AD can get you a good price for replacements or a refund of the purchase if it is a used example.

RolexYoung · 8 January 2015, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

A brand spankin' new one will come with 12 links plus a half link. If it was sold as used then it comes as-is and the Dealer doesn't owe you any extra links..

These are expensive and perhaps the AD can get you a good price for replacements or a refund of the purchase if it is a used example.

I know this is random but i'm looking into buying a brand new Sub what would be the best version to go for. Didn't want to start a whole thread just for my one NOOB question lol. Thank you :)

oooteedee · 9 January 2015, 11:11 AM

So... The AD has agreed that there are obviously links missing. They are ordering in a replacement watch and have agreed to:

1. Give me a FOC additional link that I will need to get it to fit correctly (I've got massive wrists :) ) - $705 USD value

2. Provide a FOC extra link for my TT DJ II that I've yet to have fitted - $210 USD value

3. $3000 USD store credit that I have already spent (Explorer II, here I come!!)

Not a bad resolution, I don't think - although the whole thing has been a pain in the balls! Thanks to everyone for your advice/support - I really appreciate it.

Dyim · 9 January 2015, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oooteedee

So... The AD has agreed that there are obviously links missing. They are ordering in a replacement watch and have agreed to:

1. Give me a FOC additional link that I will need to get it to fit correctly (I've got massive wrists :) ) - $705 USD value

2. Provide a FOC extra link for my TT DJ II that I've yet to have fitted - $210 USD value

3. $3000 USD store credit that I have already spent (Explorer II, here I come!!)

Not a bad resolution, I don't think - although the whole thing has been a pain in the balls! Thanks to everyone for your advice/support - I really appreciate it.

Were all the stickers on the original watch?

Zoran · 9 January 2015, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oooteedee

So... The AD has agreed that there are obviously links missing. They are ordering in a replacement watch and have agreed to:

1. Give me a FOC additional link that I will need to get it to fit correctly (I've got massive wrists :) ) - $705 USD value

2. Provide a FOC extra link for my TT DJ II that I've yet to have fitted - $210 USD value

3. $3000 USD store credit that I have already spent (Explorer II, here I come!!)

Not a bad resolution, I don't think - although the whole thing has been a pain in the balls! Thanks to everyone for your advice/support - I really appreciate it.

Now that's what I call a happy ending!

Good for you!

Old Expat Beast · 4 January 2015, 03:22 PM

Sounds like all the removable links have been removed.

77T · 4 January 2015, 03:27 PM

If it was new and sized previously, look underneath the pillow in the box for a small plastic baggie with 3 links.

If it was pre-owned, it is what it is/has like Larry said.

oooteedee · 4 January 2015, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

If it was new and sized previously, look underneath the pillow in the box for a small plastic baggie with 3 links.

If it was pre-owned, it is what it is/has like Larry said.

It was new and nothing under the pillow... Time for a little chat, me thinks!

Invictus Maneo · 5 January 2015, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oooteedee

It was new and nothing under the pillow... Time for a little chat, me thinks!

More than a "little" chat, Chris. If that was new then that AD is stealing from you, IMO. Not only should the additional links be provided with a profound apology but they should throw you some excellent Rolex goodies and/or give you a large discount in the shape of a refund!
That's $2250 that they tried to take from you, borderline if not criminal.

Please let us know how this works out.

Duey · 5 January 2015, 03:09 AM

Here's a post that talks about it some

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=320339

997.2 · 5 January 2015, 06:07 AM

Wow this is sickening. Please let us know what happens.

c.capt · 5 January 2015, 06:47 AM

IMHO, if the watch was sized, it is no longer new. Maybe a customer bought it, they sized it, and he/she changed their mind? Doesn't matter. I honestly wouldn't care why they sized it. And if they did size it, where are the links? They either need to get you an actual new watch or provide the links and a refund to match the cost of a used/LNIB watch.

tkerrmd · 5 January 2015, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c.capt

IMHO, if the watch was sized, it is no longer new. Maybe a customer bought it, they sized it, and he/she changed their mind? Doesn't matter. I honestly wouldn't care why they sized it. And if they did size it, where are the links? They either need to get you an actual new watch or provide the links and a refund to match the cost of a used/LNIB watch.

Agree and if this was supposed to be a new watch I would not accept it and either get my money back or get a brand new one untouched!

Zoran · 5 January 2015, 07:04 AM

Subscribed to this thread!
I am really interested whether the AD forgot the extra links considering was watch was supposed to be new...

Keep us posted!

Mis3 · 5 January 2015, 08:11 AM

Wow. I have no idea how expensive is each link. If I have to guess, I would think these links would cost less than $100 each. Now I wonder how much is the whole bracelet!

I just bought a SubC and I can see 9 links on the watch plus a possible half-link. I took out the box and sure enough, there are 3 links inside the box under the watch pillow.

c.capt · 5 January 2015, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mis3

Wow. I have no idea how expensive is each link. If I have to guess, I would think these links would cost less than $100 each. Now I wonder how much is the whole bracelet!

I just bought a SubC and I can see 9 links on the watch plus a possible half-link. I took out the box and sure enough, there are 3 links inside the box under the watch pillow.

I would think the gold alone would be over $100, not to mention the manufacturing costs and the "official Rolex" status.

Mis3 · 5 January 2015, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c.capt

I would think the gold alone would be over $100, not to mention the manufacturing costs and the "official Rolex" status.

I see. Somehow I missed the part that this is for a gold Submariner.

Keith1 · 5 January 2015, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c.capt

I would think the gold alone would be over $100, not to mention the manufacturing costs and the "official Rolex" status.

You must not of read the whole thread. Check out post #3 above.

c.capt · 5 January 2015, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith1

You must not of read the whole thread. Check out post #3 above.

Uh, I did read the whole thread. I was replying to Mis3 who said that he couldn't believe how expensive the links were (so obviously he saw the price as well) and he would've guessed that they would be under $100. I was merely stating the gold alone would be over $100, with the remainder of the cost tied up in manufacturing, marketing, etc.

Tools · 5 January 2015, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mis3

Wow. I have no idea how expensive is each link. If I have to guess, I would think these links would cost less than $100 each. Now I wonder how much is the whole bracelet!

I just bought a SubC and I can see 9 links on the watch plus a possible half-link. I took out the box and sure enough, there are 3 links inside the box under the watch pillow.

Steel links are under a hundred bucks.. But gold links are considerably more pricey. The gold bracelet runs 15-20,000 bucks.

datejusting · 5 January 2015, 08:24 AM

Was the watch bought from an Authorized Rolex Dealer as a new watch? If it was, call Rolex headquarters in England. They will take care of it.

AK797 · 5 January 2015, 08:50 AM

My gold has 12 links, 9 is totally unacceptable on a new piece.

Sublover2166 · 5 January 2015, 09:44 AM

My Hulk has 12 full links plus the half link. Is the stainless Sub the only one with the 1/2 link?

Alpino · 5 January 2015, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sublover2166

My Hulk has 12 full links plus the half link. Is the stainless Sub the only one with the 1/2 link?

Did you read my post , #10

4 January 2015, 03:27 PM	#13
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	If it was new and sized previously, look underneath the pillow in the box for a small plastic baggie with 3 links. If it was pre-owned, it is what it is/has like Larry said. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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Duey 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Duey Location: Maui Watch: Too Many To List Posts: 3,598	Here's a post that talks about it some http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=320339 Attached Images

5 January 2015, 06:47 AM	#18
c.capt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Chicago, IL Watch: Hulk Sub Posts: 683	IMHO, if the watch was sized, it is no longer new. Maybe a customer bought it, they sized it, and he/she changed their mind? Doesn't matter. I honestly wouldn't care why they sized it. And if they did size it, where are the links? They either need to get you an actual new watch or provide the links and a refund to match the cost of a used/LNIB watch. __________________ BALL EHC Airborne · EHC Black \| EBEL 1911 BTR Chrono \| GLASHÜTTE ORIGINAL Senator Navigator Panodate IWC Aquatimer 2000 \| OMEGA SMPc · SM PO 8500 · Speedmaster Apollo XI 35th · Speedmaster GSOTM ROLEX Datejust · Datejust II · Explorer II · Sea Dweller Ceramic 4000 · Submariner LVc \| TUDOR Black Shield

5 January 2015, 07:04 AM	#20
Zoran "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Zoran Location: EU Watch: 1655 Mark 1 Posts: 1,010	Subscribed to this thread! I am really interested whether the AD forgot the extra links considering was watch was supposed to be new... Keep us posted! __________________

4 January 2015, 02:04 PM	#1
oooteedee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: Wokingham, Englan Watch: Platinum DDII Posts: 86	Submariner links Hi guys - quick question... My partner bought me a YG Sub (116618LN) for christmas. Lovely gesture and I really like it - however... It only has 9 links - TOTAL. I think the dealer has pulled a fast one and used it for links for other sales and then sold this one with far too few links. Even at full 20mm extension it's not even close to going on my wrist and the links are super expensive each. Before I start a war with the AD, can you comment? I was told elsewhere that an oyster bracelet should have 13 links as standard, is that right?

4 January 2015, 02:08 PM	#2
Thatguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Wayne Location: California Watch: Rolex, PAM Posts: 3,302	I thought subs had 13 but soon the experts will chime in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

4 January 2015, 02:13 PM	#3
Keith1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: San Diego Watch: Sub-C blue, DSSD Posts: 2,482	The 116618 YG comes with 12 links. Each additional full link costs $705. The stainless & TT Submariner comes with 13 links. Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger!

4 January 2015, 10:55 PM	#5
Alpino "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Paris Posts: 2,557	. 97208 comes from factory with 13 links (just like the SS version 97200) : . 6 removable links . 1 half link . (2x) 3 links attached to the SEL.

4 January 2015, 02:34 PM	#6
DHISTORY "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: OC Watch: enthusiast Posts: 486	Whomever the AD was, they definitely pulled a fast one. 3 links for a total of $2115? Ouch. Let us know how it turns out. Good luck, Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 January 2015, 11:11 AM	#9
oooteedee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: Wokingham, Englan Watch: Platinum DDII Posts: 86	So... The AD has agreed that there are obviously links missing. They are ordering in a replacement watch and have agreed to: 1. Give me a FOC additional link that I will need to get it to fit correctly (I've got massive wrists :) ) - $705 USD value 2. Provide a FOC extra link for my TT DJ II that I've yet to have fitted - $210 USD value 3. $3000 USD store credit that I have already spent (Explorer II, here I come!!) Not a bad resolution, I don't think - although the whole thing has been a pain in the balls! Thanks to everyone for your advice/support - I really appreciate it.

4 January 2015, 03:22 PM	#12
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	Sounds like all the removable links have been removed.

5 January 2015, 06:07 AM	#17
997.2 Banned Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Chaz Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 2,721	Wow this is sickening. Please let us know what happens.

5 January 2015, 08:11 AM	#21
Mis3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 357	Wow. I have no idea how expensive is each link. If I have to guess, I would think these links would cost less than $100 each. Now I wonder how much is the whole bracelet! I just bought a SubC and I can see 9 links on the watch plus a possible half-link. I took out the box and sure enough, there are 3 links inside the box under the watch pillow.

5 January 2015, 08:24 AM	#27
datejusting "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Al Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,153	Was the watch bought from an Authorized Rolex Dealer as a new watch? If it was, call Rolex headquarters in England. They will take care of it.

5 January 2015, 08:50 AM	#28
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	My gold has 12 links, 9 is totally unacceptable on a new piece.

5 January 2015, 09:44 AM	#29
Sublover2166 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: John Location: Manassas,Virginia Watch: Ol'Bluesy & Hulk Posts: 2,871	My Hulk has 12 full links plus the half link. Is the stainless Sub the only one with the 1/2 link?

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