Showing Rolex to Professor

[Rolex_07]

My Business professor has recently mentioned Rolex a few times during class.

We were talking about quality of products and he mentioned Timex V.S. Rolex.

I was wondering if you guys would think that it would be okay for me to show him my YG DD after class with no one else around.

What do you think? Afterall, he may be a WIS

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Yeah, why not??

You may even get higher marks in future!

[Bobareno]

Sounds like he would like to see it, give it a try.

[astcell]

Was he bashing Rolex and lauding Timex?

[oneillba]

If shows you his Timex Ironman after you show him your YG DD, then all bets are off.

[GoldenBear]

Depends on the school and the professor. When I was at Cal I had some left-over professors from the 60's and although I didn't have a Rolex in college, I doubt it would have made a positive impression.
BTW- He was an Econ. professor. Once, he was explaining price elasticity graphs vis a via supply and demand and the decisions made by the producers and consumers. His example was the price of a pound of marijuana...Only in Berkeley!! Go Bears!!

[seantk]

"When you meet a master swordsman, show him your sword. When you meet a man who is not a poet, do not show him your poem"



Sean

[stnmikita]

Originally Posted by seantk

"When you meet a master swordsman, show him your sword. When you meet a man who is not a poet, do not show him your poem"



Sean

What exactly are we talking about here?!?

[KG4LHO]

Originally Posted by seantk

"When you meet a master swordsman, show him your sword. When you meet a man who is not a poet, do not show him your poem"



Sean

I like that and it fits this scenario just right. My father was talking with a family friend about his DJ and the guy said "Hold on a sec and let me get my (gold toned) Timex". He actually thought it was the "same" and was put off when Dad explained they weren't even in the same ballpark. IMHO, unless I was sure the Prof. would be positive about the DD, I would never show it to him. Too much of a chance of backlash and a negative "discussion topic" in class. Thanks, Wesley

[HDHNTER]

Originally Posted by seantk

"When you meet a master swordsman, show him your sword. When you meet a man who is not a poet, do not show him your poem"



Sean

Definitely applies to the OP, cool quote

[Rolex_07]

No he wasn't bashing Rolex. He was saying that Rolex is a superior product in comparison to Timex.

You know what I meant!

[Rolex_07]

How exactly should I bring up this topic of showing him my "timepiece"/watch? Usually I wait for people to notice it, and then I show them. I don't usually go around saying "Hey look at my watch!"

I want to come off as showing the watch and not showing off the watch? (Does that make any sence?)

[BillA]

I would ask him first if he is an enthusiast, if he says yes, show it to him, if he says no, then do not, it might irritate him. Remember, he has what is called power of the pen.

[chris_nor_cal]

Originally Posted by BillA

I would ask him first if he is an enthusiast, if he says yes, show it to him, if he says no, then do not, it might irritate him. Remember, he has what is called power of the pen.

good advice.

[scottschoe]

I don't think anything positive could really come from it.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by scottschoe

I don't think anything positive could really come from it.

I agree with this statement.

I teach Marketing/Business Economics in two of the best business schools in Europe and interact with lots of students from different countries and cultures. I am a big fun of Rolex, I own two myself, but if one of my students would come to SHOW me the watch it would make a bad impression to me.

This doesn't mean anything of course with regards to marking, etc., but a bad impression is difficult to wash out.

I see sometimes students wearing Rolex, and I like their taste (irrespective of money of course, because not all of them can buy these watches), maybe even feel closer to them or a feeling of approval. But this is without them crossing the line.

But if they would come to show me ... ...

Don't do this Rolex 07. There is no point in doing so. To prove what? He is not your friend, your peer ... he is your Professor.
Any interaction you two have is about your education - not about common hobbies.
I am sure he might have noticed it if you interact with him enough , maybe he even likes you for this don't spoil things

[HDHNTER]

Originally Posted by Scarface

I agree with this statement.

I teach Marketing/Business Economics in two of the best business schools in Europe and interact with lots of students from different countries and cultures. I am a big fun of Rolex, I own two myself, but if one of my students would come to SHOW me the watch it would make a bad impression to me.

This doesn't mean anything of course with regards to marking, etc., but a bad impression is difficult to wash out.

I see sometimes students wearing Rolex, and I like their taste (irrespective of money of course, because not all of them can buy these watches), maybe even feel closer to them or a feeling of approval. But this is without them crossing the line.

But if they would come to show me ... ...

Don't do this Rolex 07. There is no point in doing so. To prove what? He is not your friend, your peer ... he is your Professor.
Your interaction is about your education not about common hobbies.
I am sure he might have noticed it if you interact with him enough , maybe he even likes you for this don't spoil things

Thank you for confirming my post above yours.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by HDHNTER

Thank you for confirming my post above yours.

You are very right Allen in what you 've said above
I am now offering "inside info" to prevent a possible tragedy
Professors won't appreciate a Rolex, they 'll appreciate other things and they expect other things from students.

Show off with your brilliant mind Rolex 07 - not with your watch

[Skutt50]

I would get hold a Timex and show that to the profesor.

The Rolex would be on my wrist and if he mentions it, I would show him.

[f16570]

Think it might not go as you plan. Keep it to yourself until he notices.

[Mrdi]

Just wear it.

[Incurable]

That's all right, my business prof. actually had the gall to subject we students to a 1 hour video assault all about Fossil watches and the success story they represented. The whole time I was doing my best to hold my tongue...

[BigHat]

I'd avoid any mention of it with him.

It's a stupid statement to make anyway and I would have asked him to explain it even though I love nice watches. What's good and bad in this comparison? Like Robert, wasn't sure who was getting praised in your first post.

Timex offers more value per dollar than Rolex or any other high-end watches. The aim is to tell time right? The fact that some prefer a piece of jewelry or mech work of art no way detracts from the Timex value proposition.

And by the way, this is a $300 Timex perpetual calendar that has yet to lose a second in two months. It gets some wrist time and is noticed more than any Rolex I own. I'd be relucant to characterize it as junk just because it sells for less than a $30K Lange.

Guess the old saying remains true -- those that can't do, teach.

[bwalkerVintage]

Originally Posted by Rolex_07

My Business professor has recently mentioned Rolex a few times during class.

We were talking about quality of products and he mentioned Timex V.S. Rolex.

I was wondering if you guys would think that it would be okay for me to show him my YG DD after class with no one else around.

What do you think? Afterall, he may be a WIS

Just tell him you noticed he used the Rolex example alot and ask him if he is a watch collector. You'll know if it is the right decision to proceed from that discussion.

Originally Posted by BigHat

Guess the old saying remains true -- those that can't do, teach.

That is a ridiculous statement.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by BigHat

Guess the old saying remains true -- those that can't do, teach.

I agree, ridiculous.

With a few years under my belt as a marketing manager in a multinational everyone has heard of, I have later pushed myself to go through the years of a PhD; and currently an assistant Prof, with my own consulting firm. My ex-employing company is one of my customers. The best of both worlds.

Big Hat, as a marketing person I was giving 12-15 hours of my daily time to a large corporation and earned a very good salary. Quality of life back then...?
Now spending an average of 10-12 hours a day between my Uni and my own practice. Guess what? I don't even feel how the day passes... as if I am doing my hobby.... Quality of life? Wanna talk money? I will let you guess this one

Concluding, I 'd say that the old saying is, at least, outdated..., the motives driving a person to academia are far more complex than "can't do" ...

Now, getting back to the question, a business Professor would most likely be doing quite well. I can't imagine anyone being poor. Unlikely to be jealous of a student's watch - Rolex or whatever ...
But a student, as someone who has not yet been tested in life through the reality of markets and work, should be modest.
Time will come when this young student will be a succesful person. I can assure you, his ex-Professor, will be the first to be HAPPY about him.

[doc_colton]

Frankly I don't quite understand the issue

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by doc_colton

Frankly I don't quite understand the issue

Doc, you 've answered yourself in this (other) thread..:

Originally Posted by doc_colton

... Was he flashing it around the office going "look at me, I've got a Rolex and you don't!" Why would all of the co-workers be standing around discussing your friend's watch if he didn't call attention to himself in the first place. I've worn a Rolex to work for the past 10 years or so and it's a non-issue

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by Scarface

I agree, ridiculous.

With a few years under my belt as a marketing manager in a multinational everyone has heard of, I have later pushed myself to go through the years of a PhD; and currently an assistant Prof, with my own consulting firm. My ex-employing company is one of my customers. The best of both worlds.

Big Hat, as a marketing person I was giving 12-15 hours of my daily time to a large corporation and earned a very good salary. Quality of life back then...?
Now spending an average of 10-12 hours a day between my Uni and my own practice. Guess what? I don't even feel how the day passes... as if I am doing my hobby.... Quality of life? Wanna talk money? I will let you guess this one

Concluding, I 'd say that the old saying is, at least, outdated..., the motives driving a person to academia are far more complex than "can't do" ...

Now, getting back to the question, a business Professor would most likely be doing quite well. I can't imagine anyone being poor. Unlikely to be jealous of a student's watch - Rolex or whatever ...
But a student, as someone who has not yet been tested in life through the reality of markets and work, should be modest.
Time will come when this young student will be a succesful person. I can assure you, his ex-Professor, will be the first to be HAPPY about him.

Of course you are right about this and it is a gross generalization. Be aware that the intial post lacked the context of the comparison to the point that many were unsure which watch (if any) was being criticized or what precisiely THIS particular professor was comparing.
With two post-graduate degrees I certainly have met, and been influenced by many competent professors. I have also met my share of pompous jerks, sheltered in the tenure system and clueless about the real world. If you assert that that they don't exist than you're being ridiculous. "Those who can't do, teach" is well known and frequently used expression I heard for the first time 40 years ago. I expect it to be in use for 100s of years.
I apologize to any professors here that took it as a personal attack; wasn't meant to be.
Also totally agree that teaching offers a quality of life to be envied and a healthy work- life balance that may or may not yield less pay isn't a bad thing either.

Back on the subject. The teacher and student basically have entered into an informal contract where the watches fetishes of either one are irrelevant. I don't see why the interaction between the two should be on anything other than the subject matter at hand.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by BigHat

I have also met my share of pompous jerks, sheltered in the tenure system and clueless about the real world.

Yes, Big Hat, many of them. More than necessary. I disagreed on the generalization.
The good thing is that the recent trend in Uni faculties is against such people, at least in business education; Most are people who have been or currently are practicioners as well.

Originally Posted by BigHat

Back on the subject. The teacher and student basically have entered into an informal contract where the watches fetishes of either one are irrelevant. I don't see why the interaction between the two should be on anything other than the subject matter at hand.

That 's what I was saying too.
Not knowing what type of person this prof. is, better for the student to play safe and keep some formalities.

[Markg]

dont show it to him; no good can come of it.

wait until after you graduate; you can go back and show him what a success he made you!