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Old 6 March 2015, 05:32 AM   #1
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suspicious GMT 16713

This GMT seems to have the wrong dial (GMT Master instead of GMT Master II). The GMT hand doesn't show the hours in the corresponding 24 hour time, so it's not a GMT Master even though it has a GMT Master dial. The bracelet looks off, but I can't name why it seems off.

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Old 6 March 2015, 05:39 AM   #2
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One quick further note. The jewelry stores says this a 16713 with an X serial number (circa 1991). They also say it was serviced by their own Rolex-trained staff.

I was mildly interested at first, but not anymore.
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Old 6 March 2015, 08:46 AM   #3
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Old 6 March 2015, 09:11 AM   #4
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its a gmt not a gmt II
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Old 6 March 2015, 10:27 AM   #5
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On a gmt the 24 hr hand should be facing either the 2 or 14 on the bezel, as it's not independent, no?
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On a gmt the 24 hr hand should be facing either the 2 or 14 on the bezel, as it's not independent, no?
Yes looks like it needs a service
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Old 6 March 2015, 12:42 PM   #7
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On a gmt the 24 hr hand should be facing either the 2 or 14 on the bezel, as it's not independent, no?
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Old 6 March 2015, 12:50 PM   #8
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On the GMT-Master the 24hr hand and the hour hand are locked in synch, they can't be set separately. The rotating bezel is the only way to set a second time zone. That's why the GMT-Master II was invented...to let you set the hour hand separately from the 24hr hand.
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Old 6 March 2015, 01:05 PM   #9
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On the GMT-Master the 24hr hand and the hour hand are locked in synch, they can't be set separately. The rotating bezel is the only way to set a second time zone. That's why the GMT-Master II was invented...to let you set the hour hand separately from the 24hr hand.
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On the GMT-Master the 24hr hand and the hour hand are locked in synch, they can't be set separately. The rotating bezel is the only way to set a second time zone. That's why the GMT-Master II was invented...to let you set the hour hand separately from the 24hr hand.
Thank you. I didn't know that as well.
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Thank you. I didn't know that as well.
No probs! The advantage of the older model is that is has a quick set date, whereas the GMTII does not. So if you don't travel much, the older one is probably more practical.
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