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xjeeunitx · 12 March 2015, 12:13 PM

What would you do if you were in my shoes...

I listed a watch that was in excellent condition with barely any wear on the band. I reduced the price (just to make a deal) and sold it to a buyer. I shipped out and the buyer received it. The buyer sends me a message stating that he would like to return it due to the severe stretch in the band.

I told him to return it for full refund. I emphasized that the band had no stretch whatsoever. I have also taken high def. pictures to prove that there was no stretch. Furthermore, I informed him that I could have sold it for more than what he paid easily. I gave him my phone number and requested that he sends back the watch immediately.

So... he basically sent me the first message about his intent to return but after reading my follow up messages, he doesn't respond to any of my mine. No phone calls either. What do you think was his intent in sending me the message? Does this seems shady?

steve.r · 12 March 2015, 12:24 PM

Sounds like an arse to me. He got the watch, you got the cash. He bought it in a condition you explained. To the buyer, Either return it and cash back or stop moaning.

Speed · 12 March 2015, 12:26 PM

Cold feet???

Maybe he decided to keep it...Are the funds safe in your account?'

Or...he got busy / has not sent the watch back yet. Did you give him a deadline?

xjeeunitx · 12 March 2015, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Speed

Cold feet???

Maybe he decided to keep it...Are the funds safe in your account?

Yes. It is. I just don't understand why he wouldn't respond. If he changed his mind, then a simple message would be appreciated. It just seems shady to me.

Ca$hOnly · 12 March 2015, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xjeeunitx

Yes. It is. I just don't understand why he wouldn't respond. If he changed his mind, then a simple message would be appreciated. It just seems shady to me.

It absolutely is shady. But at the end of the day you have the money and he has the watch. I would just let it go unless the guy starts making unreasonable demands. Him not responding means to me that he's given up and is keeping the watch.

Mosco · 12 March 2015, 12:26 PM

call him out, save others the headache.

xjeeunitx · 12 March 2015, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

call him out, save others the headache.

I think I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Bro, nice avatar man. Havent seen that movie in ages.

tkerrmd · 12 March 2015, 12:28 PM

He has the watch you have the money so....

xjeeunitx · 12 March 2015, 12:31 PM

I told to send it back the same day which was Monday. Now, its Wednesday night with mo responses. I know he checks TRF frequently from the last activity date/time.

cathy liebchen · 12 March 2015, 12:32 PM

you're good, move on. Probably heard the last of it

Speed · 12 March 2015, 12:32 PM

Hard to say.

At least he didn't try to get you to send $ / then change his mind. Then I would say he was shady. Maybe he's just moved on.

NKflyer · 12 March 2015, 12:35 PM

What seems like a minor condition issue to one person might not be so minor to another. I tried searching your recent classifieds to check out a photo of this allegedly stretched bracelet but all of your photos have already been deleted.

Regardless if the buyer had a legitimate beef or not, it is very strange that they simply disappeared. In another day or two, I would refuse to accept a return no matter what. The discovery period is safely over at that point.

xjeeunitx · 12 March 2015, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NKflyer

What seems like a minor condition issue to one person might not be so minor to another. I tried searching your recent classifieds to check out a photo of this allegedly stretched bracelet but all of your photos have already been deleted.

Regardless if the buyer had a legitimate beef or not, it is very strange that they simply disappeared. In another day or two, I would refuse to accept a return no matter what. The discovery period is safely over at that point.

That's the thing. I purposefully disclose every little thing wrong about the watch to ensure there is no surprises. I make it sound like the condition is worse than it actually is. And, the fact that the band had no stretch whatsoever made me scratch my head.

I take down the photos immediately so that con artists wont use them to scam people.

tjjma · 12 March 2015, 12:42 PM

Most likely Buyer not wanting to admit fault. Him/her assumed the bracelet stretch was not acceptable at initial impression but then does some research and found out bracelet is norm. Takes some ego to admit fault. Either that or the Buyer had amnesia and forgot the whole thing, but that wouldn't explain why his messages were read.

xjeeunitx · 12 March 2015, 12:43 PM

Some photos.

Al1969 · 12 March 2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xjeeunitx

Some photos.

I have recently noticed people posting pictures to show the bracelets with the crown pointing down. Maybe it's just me, doesn't having the crown up give you a more accurate depiction of bracelet stretch or does it matter?

Mastergreenhand · 12 March 2015, 12:43 PM

Maybe he realized he was wrong about the stretch.

red1108nyc · 12 March 2015, 12:47 PM

maybe his wife yelled at him :-)

MitchSteel · 12 March 2015, 12:52 PM

Wife yelled at him for sure.....also known as cold feet

submariner66 · 12 March 2015, 12:49 PM

Nice watch..does omega still make them like that?

xjeeunitx · 12 March 2015, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by submariner66

Nice watch..does omega still make them like that?

Thank you. Well its not mine anymore but this model was discontinued in 2008. Its getting quite rare to find this model in such unmolested condition.

Tudor66 · 12 March 2015, 12:56 PM

It looks like a near perfect band...!

xjeeunitx · 12 March 2015, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tudor66

It looks like a near perfect band...!

What I said... =)

toneafficianado · 12 March 2015, 12:58 PM

Sounds like classic Buyer's Remorse to me..he's looked for a reason to send it back.
he can easily just resell it..it looks like a beauty.

xjeeunitx · 12 March 2015, 01:16 PM

It doesn't matter. Either way works. I was acutally pushing the band as much as possible to show that there wasn't any stretch.

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 12 March 2015, 01:22 PM

OP has nothing to worry about

Speed · 12 March 2015, 01:36 PM

Love that 2254!

Chewbacca · 12 March 2015, 01:49 PM

op's in the clear imho.

Ritch99 · 12 March 2015, 02:50 PM

Jee,

I wouldn't worry about it. Does sound a little shady. There are shady people everywhere. By the way, thanks for the Deep Sea bracelet, I had been searching for one for a while. I can attest to your great service and integrity. Don't let those kind get you down.

Mitch aka Ritch99

xjeeunitx · 12 March 2015, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ritch99

Jee,

I wouldn't worry about it. Does sound a little shady. There are shady people everywhere. By the way, thanks for the Deep Sea bracelet, I had been searching for one for a while. I can attest to your great service and integrity. Don't let those kind get you down.

Mitch aka Ritch99

Mitch, thank you for your kind words. =)

12 March 2015, 12:13 PM	#1
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,529	Deceptive buyers on TRF, what would you do? What would you do if you were in my shoes... I listed a watch that was in excellent condition with barely any wear on the band. I reduced the price (just to make a deal) and sold it to a buyer. I shipped out and the buyer received it. The buyer sends me a message stating that he would like to return it due to the severe stretch in the band. I told him to return it for full refund. I emphasized that the band had no stretch whatsoever. I have also taken high def. pictures to prove that there was no stretch. Furthermore, I informed him that I could have sold it for more than what he paid easily. I gave him my phone number and requested that he sends back the watch immediately. So... he basically sent me the first message about his intent to return but after reading my follow up messages, he doesn't respond to any of my mine. No phone calls either. What do you think was his intent in sending me the message? Does this seems shady?

12 March 2015, 12:26 PM	#6
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	call him out, save others the headache. __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

12 March 2015, 12:43 PM	#17
Mastergreenhand "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Tony Location: Chi-town Watch: Starbucks, Panerai Posts: 1,188	Maybe he realized he was wrong about the stretch. __________________ Starbucks, Speedmaster Professional, PAM 212

12 March 2015, 12:52 PM	#19
MitchSteel "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: MDangerSteel Location: Canada Watch: Vintage Rolex Posts: 2,301	Wife yelled at him for sure.....also known as cold feet __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons Probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival---Capt. Rage Don't believe anything in aviation, 'till V1---Mitch Danger Steel

12 March 2015, 12:56 PM	#22
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	It looks like a near perfect band...! __________________ -NAWCC Member

12 March 2015, 12:24 PM	#2
steve.r "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: China Watch: ExII & GMT Master Posts: 334	Sounds like an arse to me. He got the watch, you got the cash. He bought it in a condition you explained. To the buyer, Either return it and cash back or stop moaning.

12 March 2015, 12:26 PM	#3
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Cold feet??? Maybe he decided to keep it...Are the funds safe in your account?' Or...he got busy / has not sent the watch back yet. Did you give him a deadline?

12 March 2015, 12:28 PM	#8
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	He has the watch you have the money so....

12 March 2015, 12:31 PM	#9
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,529	I told to send it back the same day which was Monday. Now, its Wednesday night with mo responses. I know he checks TRF frequently from the last activity date/time.

12 March 2015, 12:32 PM	#10
cathy liebchen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Southern USA Posts: 85	you're good, move on. Probably heard the last of it

12 March 2015, 12:35 PM	#12
NKflyer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Richard Location: Colorado Posts: 2,858	What seems like a minor condition issue to one person might not be so minor to another. I tried searching your recent classifieds to check out a photo of this allegedly stretched bracelet but all of your photos have already been deleted. Regardless if the buyer had a legitimate beef or not, it is very strange that they simply disappeared. In another day or two, I would refuse to accept a return no matter what. The discovery period is safely over at that point.

12 March 2015, 12:42 PM	#14
tjjma "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: San Francisco Posts: 237	Most likely Buyer not wanting to admit fault. Him/her assumed the bracelet stretch was not acceptable at initial impression but then does some research and found out bracelet is norm. Takes some ego to admit fault. Either that or the Buyer had amnesia and forgot the whole thing, but that wouldn't explain why his messages were read.

12 March 2015, 12:47 PM	#18
red1108nyc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,512	maybe his wife yelled at him :-)

12 March 2015, 12:49 PM	#20
submariner66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: John Location: New Jersey Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,139	Nice watch..does omega still make them like that?

12 March 2015, 12:58 PM	#24
toneafficianado 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Alan Location: Australia Posts: 2,204	Sounds like classic Buyer's Remorse to me..he's looked for a reason to send it back. he can easily just resell it..it looks like a beauty.

12 March 2015, 01:16 PM	#25
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,529	It doesn't matter. Either way works. I was acutally pushing the band as much as possible to show that there wasn't any stretch.

12 March 2015, 01:22 PM	#26
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	OP has nothing to worry about __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

12 March 2015, 01:36 PM	#27
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Love that 2254!

12 March 2015, 01:49 PM	#28
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	op's in the clear imho.

12 March 2015, 02:50 PM	#29
Ritch99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Mitch Location: CONUS Watch: DSSD and others Posts: 1,186	Jee, I wouldn't worry about it. Does sound a little shady. There are shady people everywhere. By the way, thanks for the Deep Sea bracelet, I had been searching for one for a while. I can attest to your great service and integrity. Don't let those kind get you down. Mitch aka Ritch99

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