Deep Sea depth rating = 4482m/14710ft ??

[seantk]

The depth rating on the new Sea Dweller Deep Sea is 3900m/12800ft, however Rolex states that this watch can withstand a colossal 2.98 metric tonnes of water pressure.

2.98 metric tonnes = 6570 PSI, which is the equivalent of 4482m/14710ft


Could the listed depth rating of the Sea Dweller Deep Sea have anything to do with this:

"The average depth of the Atlantic Ocean is 3,900 meters (12,800 ft). The ocean bed is made up of hills, mountains, tablelands and valleys just as on dry land."

Source - Click Here

or

"Average depth of the Indian Ocean is 3,900 meters (12,800 feet)"

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Sean

[JJ Irani]

If only they'd made it to 13,000 ft, I would have bought it!!

[roadcarver]

What's the point of such depths? Will a diver be able to survive such depths?

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

What's the point of such depths? Will a diver be able to survive such depths?

Nothing on earth can survive such depths.....except some very specialised deep sea creatures that have been adapted by Mother Nature!!

[roadcarver]

Thanks JJ. I guess its over engineered design is the explanation for the Deep Sea

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Nothing on earth can survive such depths.....except some very specialised deep sea creatures that have been adapted by Mother Nature!!

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

Thanks JJ. I guess its over engineered design is the explanation for the Deep Sea

It's over-engineered for one purpose and one purpose only, Vernon - TO SELL!!

[redshirt1957]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Nothing on earth can survive such depths.....except some very specialised deep sea creatures that have been adapted by Mother Nature!!

Maybe I will use my SD as bait and see what kind of sea creature I can catch.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by redshirt1957

Maybe I will use my SD as bait and see what kind of sea creature I can catch.

[neilgader]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Nothing on earth can survive such depths.....except some very specialised deep sea creatures that have been adapted by Mother Nature!!

Well, after all, even sea creatures might occasionally need to know the time. I'd wager that after a few years on the market there'll be more than a couple of DSSD bumping around at that depth much to the chagrin of their Rolex-less owners. It's bound to happen. In fact it might be an interesting thread to find out how many Rolex owners would admit to losing their SD or Sub on a dive.

[bwalkerVintage]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

What's the point of such depths? Will a diver be able to survive such depths?

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Nothing on earth can survive such depths.....except some very specialised deep sea creatures that have been adapted by Mother Nature!!

It is so all the DSSD/SDDS Rolex watches that were dropped overboard will survive forever!

[jgreene1672]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

What's the point of such depths? Will a diver be able to survive such depths?

A diver could never survive at the maximum depth for a submariner, and if thats overkill imagine the deepsea.

I like it, but your paying alot for a completely useless feature, but then again who really needs a rolex...?

[DSJ]

Originally Posted by jgreene1672

but your paying alot for a completely useless feature, but then again who really needs a rolex...?

You said it! Something that doesn't keep as good a time as your cell phone could be considered a useless feature, yet we pay thousands!!!

I love Rolex!

[pwrslider]

Originally Posted by DSJ

You said it! Something that doesn't keep as good a time as your cell phone could be considered a useless feature, yet we pay thousands!!!

I love Rolex!

ohhh so true!

[seantk]

Originally Posted by jgreene1672

A diver could never survive at the maximum depth for a submariner, and if thats overkill imagine the deepsea.

I like it, but your paying alot for a completely useless feature, but then again who really needs a rolex...?

There have been Scuba dives in excess of 1000ft (1027ft) and a Navy diver has been to 2000ft using an atmospheric dive suit (ADS). Both of these dives would exceed the depth rating of the Submariner

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Navy Dive with ADS - Click Here

Sean

[DSJ]

Originally Posted by seantk

There have been Scuba dives in excess of 1000ft (1027ft) and a Navy diver has been to 2000ft using an atmospheric dive suit (ADS). Both of these dives would exceed the depth rating of the Submariner

Scuba Deep Dive - Click Here

Navy Dive with ADS - Click Here

Sean

So we can safely say that the Submariner (or SMP) can handle anything a SCUBA diver would encounter, whereas a SD would be able to withstand any free dive. The DS would be able to withstand being dropped to the bottom of many areas of the ocean.

[jgreene1672]

Originally Posted by seantk

There have been Scuba dives in excess of 1000ft (1027ft) and a Navy diver has been to 2000ft using an atmospheric dive suit (ADS). Both of these dives would exceed the depth rating of the Submariner

Scuba Deep Dive - Click Here

Navy Dive with ADS - Click Here

Sean

The first dive was only 313m and knowing rolex I doubt my sub would die at just 13 meters over, and as for the second good luck getting a watch to fit over your arm.

[vjb.knife]

Originally Posted by jgreene1672

A diver could never survive at the maximum depth for a submariner, and if thats overkill imagine the deepsea.

I like it, but your paying alot for a completely useless feature, but then again who really needs a rolex...?

The last time I checked my Submariner it was rated to 1000 feet.

The record dive is 701 meters or 2300 feet by Comex divers over ten years ago.

I dove many times to 600+ feet way back in the 1970's and I know several guys who are routinely diving to 1000+ feet currently.

[llamaofdoom]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

What's the point of such depths? Will a diver be able to survive such depths?

No reason, other than because it's cool.

[BiG JeEzY]

Just imagine the Bell and Ross Hydormax which is water resistant to 11,000 meters or over 30,000 feet. Talk about marketing to the extreme! Is there even any ocean that goes down that deep?

That Hydromax watch can probably go all the way into the crust or mantle of the Earth and still function.

[BiG JeEzY]

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

Just imagine the Bell and Ross Hydormax which is water resistant to 11,000 meters or over 30,000 feet. Talk about marketing to the extreme! Is there even any ocean that goes down that deep?

That Hydromax watch can probably go all the way into the crust or mantle of the Earth and still function.

Heres a picture of the world's most water resistant watch, the Hydromax...To give it that depth, the case is filled with a subtance known as hydroil I believe so if you held the watch, it would look like there was literally water on the dial.

[Trurolexer]

Nice info, Sean.

[Tony-GB]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

If only they'd made it to 13,000 ft, I would have bought it!!

LMAO!!!

[DSJ]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

If only they'd made it to 13,000 ft, I would have bought it!!

Remember they're actually able to stand 10% more than advertised. So, JJ, if your DS cracks on you when YOU PERSONALLY take it to 13K feet, I'll replace it for you!!!

[rescue7]

Originally Posted by DSJ

Remember they're actually able to stand 10% more than advertised. So, JJ, if your DS cracks on you when YOU PERSONALLY take it to 13K feet, I'll replace it for you!!!

According to the watchmaker that works at the local AD I frequent, he stated that it was tested and made it to 5000m.
He was one of few invited to Baselworld grat and got a tour of the Rolex facility in Geneva.
He also saw stockpiles of S/S Daytona's sitting there, waiting to be sent to all the AD's. He could not believe his eyes, he also saw lots of Milgauss GV's.

[Aqua fobic]

Believe it or not 3900m is not that deep. I know that sounds daft but the ROVs on some of the vessels I work on regulaly work at depths of 2500m especialy of the coast of west Africa.
They have a depth rating of 3000m and thats with a safety factor built in so I dare say, with a nudge in the right direction they could go deeper.
Oh and these are between 5 and 10 years old so technology has moved on since then.
Mixed gas divers on the other hand do work at depths of 250m sometimes 300+ but the practicalities of these depths make it uneconomical to do so. The main problem is you have to reduce the amount of Oxygen in the mix from the normal 21% we breath now down to around 1% @ 300m. The body can stand greater depths, after all we are 90% water anyway, its the reduction of Oxygen thats the limiting factor.

Having said all that at least the DSSD is safe in the shower

[vjb.knife]

Originally Posted by Aqua fobic

Mixed gas divers on the other hand do work at depths of 250m sometimes 300+ but the practicalities of these depths make it uneconomical to do so. The main problem is you have to reduce the amount of Oxygen in the mix from the normal 21% we breath now down to around 1% @ 300m. The body can stand greater depths, after all we are 90% water anyway, its the reduction of Oxygen thats the limiting factor.

Having said all that at least the DSSD is safe in the shower

Gas mixing technology is better than it used to be when I was in the game in the 1970's and is not that big of a deal now. The expense is the limiting factor along with the fatigue that sets in just from breathing at great depths. Even at 200 meters the breathing gas seems like it is very thick and it makes breathing it in and out much more of a chore than on the surface. At 500 meters it is said that it is work just to breath. It increases the fatigue and risk to the Divers greatly. After about two years of saturation diving work in water 200+ meters I was ready to get out of the business but just left sat work and worked in the Gulf of Mexico and on the East coast for another few years but in nothing over 100 meters and a lot of it in less than 100 feet. Then I was able to pay to go back to college.

[Markg]

Originally Posted by seantk

2.98 metric tonnes = 6570 PSI, which is the equivalent of 4482m/14710ft

they dont say if it is rated in fresh water or salt water; perhaps that is the difference...

[seantk]

Originally Posted by Markg

they dont say if it is rated in fresh water or salt water; perhaps that is the difference...

I was curious as why Rolex chose 3900m/12800ft since the Deep Sea had been tested deeper (more pressure). I know there were posts that suggested the 12800 had to do with Chinese numerology, however I would like to believe that it has more to do with actual depth of an Ocean.

Originally Posted by Jocke

Come on Sean, if you have one you haven´t swim with it anyway.



Jocke

If I get one, I will be sure to post pictures of me swimming with it


Sean

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Originally Posted by seantk

I was curious as why Rolex chose 3900m/12800ft since the Deep Sea had been tested deeper (more pressure). I know there were posts that suggested the 12800 had to do with Chinese numerology, however I would like to believe that it has more to do with actual depth of an Ocean.
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And "4482m/14710ft" would be quite unlucky numbers in China due to the 4's.

Pronouncing the number "4" sounds like pronouncing "death" in Chinese, so it says.

[1MAC]

Originally Posted by Markg

they dont say if it is rated in fresh water or salt water; perhaps that is the difference...

We have a winner! Salt water is more dense than fresh water. I bet that's why they rate them so. It's always nice to float in ocean water and enjoy the greater bouyancy.