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rcambrid · 17 March 2015, 11:20 AM

Calling all experts! I have the opportunity to purchase this watch at what I believe is a good value, but I will have to travel a bit to go pick it up. Before I commit to doing so, I thought I would ping the forum for some feedback. The photos are not great, but it is all that I have access to right now. No photos of the paperwork, no knowledge of the serial number yet either. Here are my questions:

1 - Opinions of authenticity? Looks legit to me, maybe replacement hands? The only thing that throws me off the bat would be the box, which I do not believe is period-correct?

2 - As far as I can tell, the dial is tritium, but at the bottom, it only says "SWISS"...I have read conflicting stories on whether this is a service dial or not?

3 - Does the bracelet appear to be accurate, per the watch? Bracelet number appears to be 93163, endlinks appear to be 71N

4 - Any opinion of value? What would be a good deal?

jedly1 · 17 March 2015, 11:30 AM

stay at home.

rcambrid · 17 March 2015, 11:36 AM

Little higher res...

steptoe · 17 March 2015, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rcambrid

Little higher res...

Those aren't higher resolution..... They're higher magnification..

There's a whole world of difference between resolution and magnification

jdmi32 · 17 March 2015, 11:44 AM

Awful. The polishing cloth is worth more.

Beaumont Miller II · 17 March 2015, 12:29 PM

I guess that auction is getting closer. You are the second person to start a thread asking whether this watch is authentic.
Save your gas money.

omitohud · 17 March 2015, 12:46 PM

Is that the same watch which was also inquired here recently? My oh my.

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AS1 · 17 March 2015, 12:49 PM

Awful fake. And I really hope people stop using "Steve McQueen" in the title of posts about the 1655.

JohnBaker3 · 17 March 2015, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AS1

I really hope people stop using "Steve McQueen" in the title of posts about the 1655.

+1

Steve McQueen never owned this reference nor are there any photos showing him even wearing one at an AD's...

MBYSF · 17 March 2015, 02:22 PM

Not worth the trip

magnetized · 17 March 2015, 02:35 PM

The box and polishing cloth looks authenthic but not the watch..

Vincent65 · 17 March 2015, 04:47 PM

SM is turning in his grave...

QueueCumber · 17 March 2015, 04:49 PM

Some funny responses in this thread...

badass09 · 17 March 2015, 07:31 PM

That watch is a joke man..

rcambrid · 18 March 2015, 01:50 AM

Thanks for all of the feedback; had my doubts, and I guess it was too good to be true!

SUBversive · 18 March 2015, 10:30 AM

Steve McQueen ,,,,,, here we go again.

rkjjeep · 18 March 2015, 10:35 AM

I call my Steve McQueen a 1655. Steve was my motorcycle idol but not my watch idol.

rcambrid · 19 March 2015, 02:10 AM

Sorry for the SM reference drama...just trying to create a title that would solicit the greatest amount of responses (which worked). Most of those responses were respectful, knowledgeable, and helpful (for which I am grateful), the rest however were largely focused on critiquing the Steve McQueen reference.

I am fully aware the watch is a (fake) 1655; and should note that SM is insignificant to me personally. The same is true of this watch; if it was real (and a bargain), I was simply going to flip it to someone who would appreciate it; just not my cup of tea.

I think it is important to acknowledge that this forum is utilized by - and relies on - a wide variety of users who range from hobbyists at best to true professionals, and while the SM reference may carry a significantly negative connotation for the latter, it may also be the only reference recognized by the former. The opinion of both are important to me.

As a side note as well, I guess I also owe a second formal forum apology for inappropriately the term "resolution;" the photos were obviously enlarged, and the resolution not increased. I am a graphic professional with access to the full Adobe Creative Suite and was doing the best I could with what was provided to me. If you check some of my other for-sale postings, I try to pride myself on high-quality, high-resolution photography. That said, I am glad that I was able to edify someones syntactical awareness. I think this forum would be a good source for professional proof-readers; I have to write many reports, if anyone is interested, let me know.

Satire aside, thanks for the feedback from all; I appreciate the variety of perspectives, and the validation of thoughts that were growing int he back of my mind regarding the authenticity. Obviously, I am not as familiar with this model as others and appreciate that there are collectors in this community who are willing to share their respected opinions.

watchcrank · 20 March 2015, 08:55 AM

yes, bad fake, stay away.

MILGAUSS88 · 21 March 2015, 03:35 AM

Well, it brought $10,000.

MILGAUSS88 · 21 March 2015, 03:36 AM

did anyone here buy it?

watchcrank · 21 March 2015, 11:35 PM

Odd, this looks like the one offered at auction in Jackson, Missouri past weekend. Went for around 5K I was told. Still fake imho.

MILGAUSS88 · 22 March 2015, 12:13 AM

Jackson, Tn. And friend of mine called auctioneer and was told 10k.

MILGAUSS88 · 22 March 2015, 12:14 AM

And , I am not saying fake or real.

rkjjeep · 22 March 2015, 10:19 AM

I was hoping someone would point out why they thought it was fake.

MILGAUSS88 · 22 March 2015, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkjjeep

I was hoping someone would point out why they thought it was fake.

Me to, with those photos, who could tell anything.

I thought about going to the auction, but this string and 500 miles of driving one way, dissuaded me.

M4rkg4rd3n · 22 March 2015, 06:49 PM

Did Steve McQueen ever wear this explorer?

Vincent65 · 22 March 2015, 06:59 PM

uh-oh...

17 March 2015, 11:20 AM	#1
rcambrid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA Posts: 241	Rolex 1655 Explorer II (Steve McQueen), questions on authenticity and value...help! Calling all experts! I have the opportunity to purchase this watch at what I believe is a good value, but I will have to travel a bit to go pick it up. Before I commit to doing so, I thought I would ping the forum for some feedback. The photos are not great, but it is all that I have access to right now. No photos of the paperwork, no knowledge of the serial number yet either. Here are my questions: 1 - Opinions of authenticity? Looks legit to me, maybe replacement hands? The only thing that throws me off the bat would be the box, which I do not believe is period-correct? 2 - As far as I can tell, the dial is tritium, but at the bottom, it only says "SWISS"...I have read conflicting stories on whether this is a service dial or not? 3 - Does the bracelet appear to be accurate, per the watch? Bracelet number appears to be 93163, endlinks appear to be 71N 4 - Any opinion of value? What would be a good deal?

17 March 2015, 12:29 PM	#6
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	I guess that auction is getting closer. You are the second person to start a thread asking whether this watch is authentic. Save your gas money. __________________

17 March 2015, 02:22 PM	#10
MBYSF "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: LA / HI Watch: Rolex / Patek Posts: 475	Not worth the trip __________________ Spread Aloha, -MB

17 March 2015, 04:49 PM	#13
QueueCumber "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Q Location: The Q Continuum Watch: ST:TNG Posts: 8,466	Some funny responses in this thread... __________________ Instagram: _queuecumber_

22 March 2015, 06:59 PM	#28
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	uh-oh... __________________

17 March 2015, 11:30 AM	#2
jedly1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: mel(oz)/Yorks(uk) Posts: 1,929	stay at home.

17 March 2015, 11:36 AM	#3
rcambrid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA Posts: 241	Little higher res...

17 March 2015, 11:44 AM	#5
jdmi32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Ky Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 16570 Posts: 2,362	Awful. The polishing cloth is worth more.

17 March 2015, 12:46 PM	#7
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	Is that the same watch which was also inquired here recently? My oh my. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

17 March 2015, 12:49 PM	#8
AS1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NYC / Milan Watch: 6263 Posts: 3,938	Awful fake. And I really hope people stop using "Steve McQueen" in the title of posts about the 1655.

17 March 2015, 02:35 PM	#11
magnetized "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Jeff Location: Los Angeles CA. Watch: aHolic Posts: 331	The box and polishing cloth looks authenthic but not the watch..

17 March 2015, 04:47 PM	#12
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	SM is turning in his grave...

17 March 2015, 07:31 PM	#14
badass09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: prabhu Location: singapore Watch: ROLEX 116613LBD Posts: 713	That watch is a joke man..

18 March 2015, 01:50 AM	#15
rcambrid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA Posts: 241	Thanks for all of the feedback; had my doubts, and I guess it was too good to be true!

18 March 2015, 10:30 AM	#16
SUBversive Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: ri Watch: Sun Dial Posts: 14,346	Steve McQueen ,,,,,, here we go again.

18 March 2015, 10:35 AM	#17
rkjjeep "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 31	I call my Steve McQueen a 1655. Steve was my motorcycle idol but not my watch idol.

19 March 2015, 02:10 AM	#18
rcambrid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA Posts: 241	Sorry for the SM reference drama...just trying to create a title that would solicit the greatest amount of responses (which worked). Most of those responses were respectful, knowledgeable, and helpful (for which I am grateful), the rest however were largely focused on critiquing the Steve McQueen reference. I am fully aware the watch is a (fake) 1655; and should note that SM is insignificant to me personally. The same is true of this watch; if it was real (and a bargain), I was simply going to flip it to someone who would appreciate it; just not my cup of tea. I think it is important to acknowledge that this forum is utilized by - and relies on - a wide variety of users who range from hobbyists at best to true professionals, and while the SM reference may carry a significantly negative connotation for the latter, it may also be the only reference recognized by the former. The opinion of both are important to me. As a side note as well, I guess I also owe a second formal forum apology for inappropriately the term "resolution;" the photos were obviously enlarged, and the resolution not increased. I am a graphic professional with access to the full Adobe Creative Suite and was doing the best I could with what was provided to me. If you check some of my other for-sale postings, I try to pride myself on high-quality, high-resolution photography. That said, I am glad that I was able to edify someones syntactical awareness. I think this forum would be a good source for professional proof-readers; I have to write many reports, if anyone is interested, let me know. Satire aside, thanks for the feedback from all; I appreciate the variety of perspectives, and the validation of thoughts that were growing int he back of my mind regarding the authenticity. Obviously, I am not as familiar with this model as others and appreciate that there are collectors in this community who are willing to share their respected opinions.

20 March 2015, 08:55 AM	#19
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,664	yes, bad fake, stay away.

21 March 2015, 03:35 AM	#20
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,194	Well, it brought $10,000.

21 March 2015, 03:36 AM	#21
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,194	did anyone here buy it?

21 March 2015, 11:35 PM	#22
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,664	Odd, this looks like the one offered at auction in Jackson, Missouri past weekend. Went for around 5K I was told. Still fake imho.

22 March 2015, 12:13 AM	#23
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,194	Jackson, Tn. And friend of mine called auctioneer and was told 10k.

22 March 2015, 12:14 AM	#24
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,194	And , I am not saying fake or real.

22 March 2015, 10:19 AM	#25
rkjjeep "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 31	I was hoping someone would point out why they thought it was fake.

22 March 2015, 06:49 PM	#27
M4rkg4rd3n "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Glasgow Posts: 280	Did Steve McQueen ever wear this explorer?

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