Is this dial original? Thank you

[stvn]

Hi Guys,
Can someone please confirm if this dial and ring is original to a 1968 5513 submariner?
Should 'Submariner' come below the numbers and not above?



Thank you very much.

[andromeda160]

Dial is a later one, I believe it's a Maxi dial from the late 70's

[stvn]

Cheers Greg.
The search goes on.

[stvn]

Does this 1963 5513 look correct?
My gut decision is yes, but I need expert advice?
Thank you :)

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by stvn

Does this 1963 5513 look correct?
My gut decision is yes, but I need expert advice?
Thank you :)

watchcrank is right, a 63 would be Gilt dialed, but this one isn't a 63 as it doesn't have pointed crown guards. what are the first 4 digits of the SN? should date from like 66-69 i'd imagine.

[watchcrank]

63 should be gilt dial.

[swish77]

Originally Posted by stvn

Hi Guys,
Can someone please confirm if this dial and ring is original to a 1968 5513 submariner?
Should 'Submariner' come below the numbers and not above?



Thank you very much.

I actually love the look of this watch. Yes, the dial and hands were changed at service at some point, but that patina and bezel insert are beautiful. Nothing wrong with correctly replaced Rolex parts, as long as the price reflects that, of course. Good luck in your search.

[Mark020]

Might be the pics bit the lume looks glued on the dial to say so.

[The_Walrus]

Originally Posted by Mark020

Might be the pics bit the lume looks glued on the dial to say so.

Well spotted Mark.
The lume seems to cast a shadow

[stvn]

Originally Posted by Mark020

Might be the pics bit the lume looks glued on the dial to say so.

I never noticed this but you are right!

[Jiggo]

WRONG dial for sure!!!

[jdmi32]

Dial on the first watch does look strange. It's a MK5 which dates it to the early 80's. And aside from the strange shadows that others have noted, some of the hour plots actually touch the hash marks, which occurs only with the MK3 dial. Printing on the crown looks strange too. If i had to guess I'd say the dial has been redone.

[Frogman4me]

Check out our very own John's site. Extremely helpful

http://www.5513mattedial.com/

[Wing Zero]

Where are you getting these dates from?

The serial number?
The date stamp on the caseback?
The seller?

The Serial number must match the caseback stamp which must match the dial....
The insert, hands, crown is nice to have matching but not necessary to make the watch "Correct"