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socal59 · 15 May 2015, 12:52 PM

I am a new member of RF, and I am thinking of getting a New GMT Master 2, 116710LN. My dilemma and questions are, new at AD it runs about $8450.00. There is one on Ebay new from 2014 unworn for $7400 make offer, with no tax and free shipping. So first question, does a watch that sits around affect the movement? Where would such a watch come from? I know it can be a million places, but seems strange to still be unworn or not sold. Second question, when the sales page states it comes with warranty card, my understanding is that it doesn't matter, since the watch is not sold at an AD, original warrantee is void. So then, warrantee card is just for show?

For about $1400 off from full retail, would this purchase be worth it? The eBay seller has 100% positive feedback and supposedly covered by eBay/Paypal buy back guarantee? Here is the eBay link:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-GMT-Ma...item25a6185a6f

Thanks for your suggestions.

omitohud · 15 May 2015, 01:04 PM

Check out sales section here n buy from well known sellers. Some even come with warranty.

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dominic.warren · 15 May 2015, 01:08 PM

I agree with omitohud your seller on ebay has little feedback for such am exspencive purchase. It is the one feedback in a year. You should be able to find one close to that price with better references on TRF.

WS9D · 15 May 2015, 01:09 PM

I was in the same delemia with my GMT 2c. I ended up paying extra buying from an AD for the peace of mind. There's just too many fakes out there. Plus my GMT was my first Rolex so I wanted to be the first owner. I prob overpaid, but I sleep better at night. I know there are plenty out there who will disagree.

tkerrmd · 15 May 2015, 01:09 PM

If not buying from an AD would buy from a trusted seller on this site, much much safer

HogwldFLTR · 15 May 2015, 01:20 PM

eBay can be safe and I've used them to help resolve issues. It isn't easy however. One time I bought a Rolex that died with in the first hours of use. They gave me five days to get a repair estimate. I bailed on their help and instead turned if over to Amex who were appreciably more helpful. Using ebay one can have three layers of protection. 1) eBay, 2) PayPal, and 3) credit card company. All three have worked for me to deal with deadbeats and there are plenty. If you don't want hassle in your life, do what others have suggested and use trusted sellers on this forum. Research the sellers through the feedback sub forum.

SemperFi · 15 May 2015, 01:52 PM

As others have said, buy from a trusted seller here. They have a long standing track record and have this entire forum to answer to. I, personally, would be uncomfortable making such a large purchase on eBay.

Duey · 16 May 2015, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semperfi

as others have said, buy from a trusted seller here. They have a long standing track record and have this entire forum to answer to. I, personally, would be uncomfortable making such a large purchase on ebay.

x2

DCgator · 15 May 2015, 02:34 PM

No if it were me. The risk is not worth the discount imho.

I hope you get a GTM-C soon.

NativeTxn · 15 May 2015, 03:47 PM

Why not talk to DavidSW (a trusted seller here) about this one:

http://davidsw.com/product/rolex-116...ramic-bezel-2/

I bought an Omega SMPc from him in excellent condition and it looked basically like new. It also had a warranty on it. He often gets watches that are new and unworn, so you can keep an eye on the website or contact him to see if he can get one for you.

MUCH safer than EBay.

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etp095 · 16 May 2015, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nativetxn

why not talk to davidsw (a trusted seller here) about this one:

http://davidsw.com/product/rolex-116...ramic-bezel-2/

i bought an omega smpc from him in excellent condition and it looked basically like new. It also had a warranty on it. He often gets watches that are new and unworn, so you can keep an eye on the website or contact him to see if he can get one for you.

Much safer than ebay.

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x2👍

bbressler · 15 May 2015, 04:08 PM

I would use a trusted seller off here rather than eBay. Look at the who's who section and several names will pop up over and over.

Hairdude1 · 15 May 2015, 04:14 PM

Go the Trusted seller route, David Sw, Thanh Do to name a few

joli160 · 15 May 2015, 04:44 PM

Spend a few hundred more and go the trusted seller route, no hassle, no worries. If the price difference between AD and trusted seller is marginal than shop at the AD.

Eric Chan · 16 May 2015, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by joli160

Spend a few hundred more and go the trusted seller route, no hassle, no worries. If the price difference between AD and trusted seller is marginal than shop at the AD.

This.

subjust · 15 May 2015, 04:53 PM

Honestly, using the trusted sellers here is like the secret most people outside of this forum don't know. I've done four transactions with trusted sellers and all were great. Why anyone in the market for a Rolex doesn't shop here for pre-owned (and sometimes BNIB) is beyond me.

AK797 · 15 May 2015, 10:05 PM

Don't use ebay, even if you know what the CHS is it's usually not worth the hassle, research trusted sellers here instead.

Warranty is valid for two years if it has an AD's stamp on it, doesn't matter if it is resold after that.

Roller07 · 15 May 2015, 11:34 PM

Is saving $1000 worth the risk of getting ripped off and losing $7400?

VinnieVegas · 15 May 2015, 11:43 PM

You can get great, fair deals from many people that post in the classified here at TRF. I'd avoid eBay.

socal59 · 16 May 2015, 12:23 AM

Ok thanks for the responses, I'll certainly look at the sellers here. But, you do understand that I am new to this forum, so there is tons to read and research on here. I have to say, and I don't want to disrespect, that a group of guys telling me to buy here and to trust them is also a red flag in the eyes of a newbie? Not saying not not to, but just another outlet to research. This may sound naive to many on here but one must be sure of all sources when shelling out thousands. So off to the sellers section I go :)

KevNev · 16 May 2015, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socal59

Ok thanks for the responses, I'll certainly look at the sellers here. But, you do understand that I am new to this forum, so there is tons to read and research on here. I have to say, and I don't want to disrespect, that a group of guys telling me to buy here and to trust them is also a red flag in the eyes of a newbie? Not saying not not to, but just another outlet to research. This may sound naive to many on here but one must be sure of all sources when shelling out thousands. So off to the sellers section I go :)

Check out the "Who's Who" section about the trusted sellers. Some have hundreds and hundreds of positive reviews. We're not all out to get you, just trying to save some money and help.

teqp · 16 May 2015, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socal59

Ok thanks for the responses, I'll certainly look at the sellers here. But, you do understand that I am new to this forum, so there is tons to read and research on here. I have to say, and I don't want to disrespect, that a group of guys telling me to buy here and to trust them is also a red flag in the eyes of a newbie? Not saying not not to, but just another outlet to research. This may sound naive to many on here but one must be sure of all sources when shelling out thousands. So off to the sellers section I go :)

I had the same sentiment when I was debating whether to buy from a trusted seller on TRF or my AD. After discussing with the wife, she was more comfortable going the AD route. Hindsight being 20-20, I would've gone with DavidSW. If this is your first Rolex and you are not as familiar with them, it is not worth the risk to buy on eBay from a low selling seller. Best of luck with your decision and post pics when you get the GMT IIc.

Ferdelious · 16 May 2015, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socal59

Ok thanks for the responses, I'll certainly look at the sellers here. But, you do understand that I am new to this forum, so there is tons to read and research on here. I have to say, and I don't want to disrespect, that a group of guys telling me to buy here and to trust them is also a red flag in the eyes of a newbie? Not saying not not to, but just another outlet to research. This may sound naive to many on here but one must be sure of all sources when shelling out thousands. So off to the sellers section I go :)

If you don't trust the well respected members of the forum then why did you make the post? Members that have been on this site for 10 + years with thousands of posts probably wouldn't still be members if they were dishonest. This site is moderated heavily. And I'm not trying to be callous, good luck with your purchase. I too recommend using one of the trusted sellers because of personal experience.

520Matt · 16 May 2015, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferdelious

If you don't trust the well respected members of the forum then why did you make the post? Members that have been on this site for 10 + years with thousands of posts probably wouldn't still be members if they were dishonest. This site is moderated heavily. And I'm not trying to be callous, good luck with your purchase. I too recommend using one of the trusted sellers because of personal experience.

the OP just joined cut him some slack and let him research and ask questions

OP you are on the right track. Contact some sellers here they will answer your questions.

Danny83 · 16 May 2015, 12:34 AM

A trusted seller on this forum can meet or beat that deal.

socal59 · 16 May 2015, 01:43 AM

Thanks again, guys :)
So i was checking out the GMT on DavidSW, It looks good, both V and G dates. But I'm still unclear on the warranty card thing, if not purchased from an AD, then what does the warranty card do? Can I take it to an AD and have warranty work done? Also, since an AD purchased Rolex has a 2 year warranty, how does a 2010 for example have a warranty card?
Sorry for the questions that seem gingerbread to you guys :)

AK797 · 16 May 2015, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socal59

Thanks again, guys :)
So i was checking out the GMT on DavidSW, It looks good, both V and G dates. But I'm still unclear on the warranty card thing, if not purchased from an AD, then what does the warranty card do? Can I take it to an AD and have warranty work done? Also, since an AD purchased Rolex has a 2 year warranty, how does a 2010 for example have a warranty card?
Sorry for the questions that seem gingerbread to you guys :)

Rolex/RSC do the warranty work, not an AD, they just send it on to them, which you can do yourself. Rolex warranty is valid for 2 years only, after that you have to pay. Research this here, tons of info.

Jari from Finland · 16 May 2015, 01:52 AM

Difference in price is only 1 k USD, I would absolutely go to an AD.

1995akcoop · 16 May 2015, 02:09 AM

I love Ebay and have bought plenty of watches there....I have also bought from members here. Just do some reserch. Alot of sellers on Ebay our members here or have actual stores

RGonzalez328 · 16 May 2015, 02:27 AM

@socal59!

I'm also in search of a gmtII and it would be my second rolex. I've also looked on eBay. I'm so scetch on buying anything online like you might be. There's alot of people on here who have sold alot of watches so keep doing some research. There's a local jewlery store in San Francisco I might buy my watch from next week but there's better prices on here. So I'm as equally as lost lol But! If I had to buy either from eBay or here I would buy from this site. Sometimes there's people in LA that post here that would meet you.

15 May 2015, 12:52 PM	#1
socal59 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Ca Posts: 7	GMT AD or Ebay? I am a new member of RF, and I am thinking of getting a New GMT Master 2, 116710LN. My dilemma and questions are, new at AD it runs about $8450.00. There is one on Ebay new from 2014 unworn for $7400 make offer, with no tax and free shipping. So first question, does a watch that sits around affect the movement? Where would such a watch come from? I know it can be a million places, but seems strange to still be unworn or not sold. Second question, when the sales page states it comes with warranty card, my understanding is that it doesn't matter, since the watch is not sold at an AD, original warrantee is void. So then, warrantee card is just for show? For about $1400 off from full retail, would this purchase be worth it? The eBay seller has 100% positive feedback and supposedly covered by eBay/Paypal buy back guarantee? Here is the eBay link:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-GMT-Ma...item25a6185a6f Thanks for your suggestions.

15 May 2015, 01:09 PM	#4
WS9D "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Steve Location: Shasta Watch: es..More Watches! Posts: 2,415	I was in the same delemia with my GMT 2c. I ended up paying extra buying from an AD for the peace of mind. There's just too many fakes out there. Plus my GMT was my first Rolex so I wanted to be the first owner. I prob overpaid, but I sleep better at night. I know there are plenty out there who will disagree. Last edited by WS9D; 15 May 2015 at 01:10 PM.. Reason: Spelling stupid iPhone

15 May 2015, 01:20 PM	#6
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,693	eBay can be safe and I've used them to help resolve issues. It isn't easy however. One time I bought a Rolex that died with in the first hours of use. They gave me five days to get a repair estimate. I bailed on their help and instead turned if over to Amex who were appreciably more helpful. Using ebay one can have three layers of protection. 1) eBay, 2) PayPal, and 3) credit card company. All three have worked for me to deal with deadbeats and there are plenty. If you don't want hassle in your life, do what others have suggested and use trusted sellers on this forum. Research the sellers through the feedback sub forum. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

15 May 2015, 04:14 PM	#13
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Go the Trusted seller route, David Sw, Thanh Do to name a few __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

15 May 2015, 04:44 PM	#14
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,759	Spend a few hundred more and go the trusted seller route, no hassle, no worries. If the price difference between AD and trusted seller is marginal than shop at the AD. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

15 May 2015, 01:04 PM	#2
omitohud "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: los Angeles Posts: 2,051	Check out sales section here n buy from well known sellers. Some even come with warranty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

15 May 2015, 01:08 PM	#3
dominic.warren "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Someone Location: Somwhere Watch: Tudor LHD Posts: 1,001	I agree with omitohud your seller on ebay has little feedback for such am exspencive purchase. It is the one feedback in a year. You should be able to find one close to that price with better references on TRF.

15 May 2015, 01:09 PM	#5
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	If not buying from an AD would buy from a trusted seller on this site, much much safer

15 May 2015, 01:52 PM	#7
SemperFi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Angelo Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 42,164	As others have said, buy from a trusted seller here. They have a long standing track record and have this entire forum to answer to. I, personally, would be uncomfortable making such a large purchase on eBay.

15 May 2015, 02:34 PM	#9
DCgator "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PNW Watch: DS,BLNR,SubLV,DJ2 Posts: 8,123	No if it were me. The risk is not worth the discount imho. I hope you get a GTM-C soon.

15 May 2015, 03:47 PM	#10
NativeTxn "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: D/FW, TX Watch: Rolex Explorer Posts: 72	Why not talk to DavidSW (a trusted seller here) about this one: http://davidsw.com/product/rolex-116...ramic-bezel-2/ I bought an Omega SMPc from him in excellent condition and it looked basically like new. It also had a warranty on it. He often gets watches that are new and unworn, so you can keep an eye on the website or contact him to see if he can get one for you. MUCH safer than EBay. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

15 May 2015, 04:08 PM	#12
bbressler "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Texas Watch: Exp, GMTII, Sub Posts: 1,184	I would use a trusted seller off here rather than eBay. Look at the who's who section and several names will pop up over and over.

15 May 2015, 04:53 PM	#16
subjust "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: shane Location: Los Angeles Watch: Blue Snowflake Posts: 145	Honestly, using the trusted sellers here is like the secret most people outside of this forum don't know. I've done four transactions with trusted sellers and all were great. Why anyone in the market for a Rolex doesn't shop here for pre-owned (and sometimes BNIB) is beyond me. __________________ Instagram: heycoolwatch

15 May 2015, 10:05 PM	#17
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Don't use ebay, even if you know what the CHS is it's usually not worth the hassle, research trusted sellers here instead. Warranty is valid for two years if it has an AD's stamp on it, doesn't matter if it is resold after that.

15 May 2015, 11:34 PM	#18
Roller07 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: GMT -5 Watch: HulkPepsiCoke Posts: 2,364	Is saving $1000 worth the risk of getting ripped off and losing $7400? __________________

15 May 2015, 11:43 PM	#19
VinnieVegas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Vincent B Location: New York, NY Watch: '06 GMT Master II Posts: 1,261	You can get great, fair deals from many people that post in the classified here at TRF. I'd avoid eBay. __________________ Wearing Today: * Seiko SRP777 (2017)

16 May 2015, 12:23 AM	#20
socal59 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Ca Posts: 7	Ok thanks for the responses, I'll certainly look at the sellers here. But, you do understand that I am new to this forum, so there is tons to read and research on here. I have to say, and I don't want to disrespect, that a group of guys telling me to buy here and to trust them is also a red flag in the eyes of a newbie? Not saying not not to, but just another outlet to research. This may sound naive to many on here but one must be sure of all sources when shelling out thousands. So off to the sellers section I go :)

16 May 2015, 12:34 AM	#25
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,312	A trusted seller on this forum can meet or beat that deal.

16 May 2015, 01:43 AM	#26
socal59 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Ca Posts: 7	Thanks again, guys :) So i was checking out the GMT on DavidSW, It looks good, both V and G dates. But I'm still unclear on the warranty card thing, if not purchased from an AD, then what does the warranty card do? Can I take it to an AD and have warranty work done? Also, since an AD purchased Rolex has a 2 year warranty, how does a 2010 for example have a warranty card? Sorry for the questions that seem gingerbread to you guys :)

16 May 2015, 01:52 AM	#28
Jari from Finland "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 394	Difference in price is only 1 k USD, I would absolutely go to an AD. __________________ "I am interested in watches, that's why I like them."

16 May 2015, 02:09 AM	#29
1995akcoop "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,162	I love Ebay and have bought plenty of watches there....I have also bought from members here. Just do some reserch. Alot of sellers on Ebay our members here or have actual stores

16 May 2015, 02:27 AM	#30
RGonzalez328 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California Posts: 84	@socal59! I'm also in search of a gmtII and it would be my second rolex. I've also looked on eBay. I'm so scetch on buying anything online like you might be. There's alot of people on here who have sold alot of watches so keep doing some research. There's a local jewlery store in San Francisco I might buy my watch from next week but there's better prices on here. So I'm as equally as lost lol But! If I had to buy either from eBay or here I would buy from this site. Sometimes there's people in LA that post here that would meet you.

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