16610lv value with no mention of LV or V...

[ertech]

Hi guys
concerning the 16610LV
is the value with no mention of LV or V on papers lower the value of the watch if the hang tag is not included?
Thanks

[SLS]

To some yes, as it is not a the "complete" package...to others no. To me it's the condition of the watch, everything else is a bonus. To answer your question, the price should reflect that it is not complete.

[ertech]

from what I understand of the rolex paper does not state LV or V there is no way to tell except the small tag

[SLS]

Correct, the older style papers do not state LV, only the model number, serial number, dial color & metal type. The green hang tag, from what I recall, is the only item that states 16610 LV. Are you concerned it is a 16610 posing as a 16610 LV or are you concerned about later resale value? What letter serial are we talking here?

[mfnj]

I have a 16610V from 2008. My warranty card DOES have the style number as 16610V on it. FWIW, it is a M series. Also, it came from a U.S. AD

[SLS]

Originally Posted by mfnj

I have a 16610V from 2008. My warranty card DOES have the style number as 16610V on it. FWIW, it is a M series. Also, it came from a U.S. AD

I believe the OP is referring to the earlier style warranty papers (see below*) and not the newer credit card style warranty card.

*note pic taken from the web

[SLS]

& I just noticed the similar V, which should stand for Verde!

Learned something new today

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by SLS

& I just noticed the similar V, which should stand for Verde!

Learned something new today

The V stands for the bezel is only green on one side, even called non flat 4 single green.

[ertech]

yes for future value
do all the F and D have this V ? I don't think so
thanks

[SLS]

Where is the watch originating from, I'm referring to the papers.

[ertech]

not sure
shopping for one and found a D series with no V
thanks

[SLS]

If the papers look like the one that I posted above it would certainly be a cause for concern, and I would look elsewhere. I am not sure about International papers however.
Scott

[ertech]

from the research I did some early D don't have the V or LV in the #

[walshie458]

Hi Guys
Just Checking, on the sub 16610v this is an anniversary model. When did it change to LV?
I have a 2008 v and was wondering if it should be an LV?
Thanks for any help.

[toolr]

I have a D serial and the papers show 16610V, meaning Verte or green bezel. All 50th anniversary subs are LV's but the model number on the warranty papers show the "V" only because, I assume, all subs have bezels so only the color follows the model number. The hang tag has 16610LV though.

[walshie458]

Originally Posted by toolr

I have a D serial and the papers show 16610V, meaning Verte or green bezel. All 50th anniversary subs are LV's but the model number on the warranty papers show the "V" only because, I assume, all subs have bezels so only the color follows the model number. The hang tag has 16610LV though.

Cheers

[mkmk]

I prefer them with the green hang tag with the V. One more item to put my mind at ease that it is the real thing.. I personally would not buy one without the green tag V or the V on the warranty card.

[ViperB]

It depends on the country that the Rolex warranty paper is from. I have seen brand new fully stickers LV with no LV or V on the warranty paper.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by ViperB

It depends on the country that the Rolex warranty paper is from. I have seen brand new fully stickers LV with no LV or V on the warranty paper.

That's correct its mainly the USA that will have the LV but again not all even in the USA, most all in the USA will have it on the green tag.Remember the LV is just a normal 16610 there are no LV markings on any case.

[walshie458]

The swing tag has LV on it now that I have looked at everything. Cheers

[Tools]

Originally Posted by ertech

Hi guys
concerning the 16610LV
is the value with no mention of LV or V on papers lower the value of the watch if the hang tag is not included?
Thanks

Hang tags are simple stickers, easily made; they don't prove anything.

If you can't show proof (proper paperwork) that a 16610 is an LV then it is the same "value" as any other 16610.

[walshie458]

Originally Posted by Tools

Hang tags are simple stickers, easily made; they don't prove anything.

If you can't show proof (proper paperwork) that a 16610 is an LV then it is the same "value" as any other 16610.

On the card with the front
style 16610V
serial no M_ _ _ _ _ _
bracelet _ _ _ _ _
dial black
Index

Back has the jewellers name
Name of purchaser
City/state
Date of purchase

It doesn't say LV anywhere. On the swing tag it has all the same details as the card but says 16610LV. On the paper work from the jeweller it has the sellers name and date. The watch is referred to as a sub green vsl. It's a 2008 model that's just gone for a full service. I'm pretty sure Rolex would say if it was not an authentic anniversary sub.
So for instance if there was no swing tag all the other hard evidence just says 16610V and the AD calls it a green Sub. So if the swing tag is the only thing that says LV and is the easiest thing to make up( forge ). Should the AD and Rolex not have made sure and put LV on the hard evidence. Or is LV just what people call the anniversary edition because someone saw it on a swing tag and it caught on??

[Tools]

Originally Posted by walshie458

On the card with the front
style 16610V
serial no M_ _ _ _ _ _
bracelet _ _ _ _ _
dial black
Index

Back has the jewellers name
Name of purchaser
City/state
Date of purchase

It doesn't say LV anywhere. On the swing tag it has all the same details as the card but says 16610LV. On the paper work from the jeweller it has the sellers name and date. The watch is referred to as a sub green vsl. It's a 2008 model that's just gone for a full service. I'm pretty sure Rolex would say if it was not an authentic anniversary sub.
So for instance if there was no swing tag all the other hard evidence just says 16610V and the AD calls it a green Sub. So if the swing tag is the only thing that says LV and is the easiest thing to make up( forge ). Should the AD and Rolex not have made sure and put LV on the hard evidence. Or is LV just what people call the anniversary edition because someone saw it on a swing tag and it caught on??

"On the card it says 16610V". That means "Submariner Date Green (Verdi)".

The Sub Date Black would be 16610N (Noir)

The L means Lunette and all Subs have it and so it is understood and not necessary.

LV, as you surmise, is simply a slang name for the Green Sub and is not an actual designation.

There is considerable discussion on whether every LV ever made is an "anniversary" Sub. Some only consider the 1963 releases to be so.