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timepiece4u · 18 December 2015, 10:39 AM

Is this watch authentic and what's a fair price. I was offered it at 4k.

cajunron · 18 December 2015, 12:53 PM

Is that the only picture you have? Usually if the price seems too good to be true.......

southtexas · 18 December 2015, 01:40 PM

Looks ok from that one pic

Edit: and yes, if indeed real, that's a good deal.

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hunterp27 · 18 December 2015, 01:50 PM

Man it's really really hard to make an authentication call on one poor photo. Need really clear pics from lots of angles to have confidence....

Andad · 18 December 2015, 02:02 PM

Hard to tell from that one poor pix.

sickened1 · 18 December 2015, 02:50 PM

Isn't 16710 a GMT-Master II? On that dial it says only GMT-Master which is supposed to be 1675/16700/16750. Also the fonts on the bezel look off to me but I could be wrong.

timepiece4u · 18 December 2015, 03:02 PM

Thanks. Requested more pictures.

southtexas · 19 December 2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by timepiece4u

Thanks. Requested more pictures.

No new pics yet?

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crowncollection · 18 December 2015, 03:44 PM

Please post more pics

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AbsolutelyROLEX! · 18 December 2015, 10:41 PM

Yes more pics needed

Bocktagon · 19 December 2015, 03:03 AM

I think it's weird that all of your posts are only about watches being real or fake.

Fjweld · 19 December 2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bocktagon

I think it's weird that all of your posts are only about watches being real or fake.

Why is it weird? If he is on a search for items whether it be parts for a watch he owns (bezels) or looking for a good deal on a timepiece, hasn't this forum been created for such purpose? There are members that do not have the same amount of expertise as the many members on the forum and general questions are often lambasted by the "experts". I feel that many members are here to solve the next crime of the century by exposing scammers. AND I understand that this frequently occurs, but whatever happened to giving people the benefit of the doubt rather than automatically pointing the finger and insinuating acts of potential fraud? My .02

Bocktagon · 19 December 2015, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fjweld

Why is it weird? If he is on a search for items whether it be parts for a watch he owns (bezels) or looking for a good deal on a timepiece, hasn't this forum been created for such purpose? There are members that do not have the same amount of expertise as the many members on the forum and general questions are often lambasted by the "experts". I feel that many members are here to solve the next crime of the century by exposing scammers. AND I understand that this frequently occurs, but whatever happened to giving people the benefit of the doubt rather than automatically pointing the finger and insinuating acts of potential fraud? My .02

I see your point however, I didn't point a finger to anyone. It seems as though you might be jumping to conclusions. I just mentioned that I felt as though it was weird that his posts were only about authentic/fake watches.

123Blueface · 19 December 2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bocktagon

I see your point however, I didn't point a finger to anyone. It seems as though you might be jumping to conclusions. I just mentioned that I felt as though it was weird that his posts were only about authentic/fake watches.

timepiece4u · 4 January 2016, 07:47 AM

Sorry for the late reply. I requested more pics, but the person hasn't send them. And no, I'm not trying to scam anyone, if a deal is too good to be true, I would like an expert opinion. As in this case I still didn't receive additional pictures. Feel free to check my references on eBay under Watchesnstuff4u

bayerische · 19 December 2015, 09:34 PM

Was there 16710 variation dials without the "II" in the GMT-Master text?

timepiece4u · 4 January 2016, 07:44 AM

Sorry for the late reply. I requested more pics, but the person hasn't send them. And no, I'm not trying to scam anyone, if a deal is too good to be true, I would like an expert opinion. As in this case I still didn't receive additional pictures. Feel free to check my references on eBay under Watchesnstuff4u

Roller07 · 4 January 2016, 09:54 AM

Whatever it is, it's not a 16710.

123Blueface · 4 January 2016, 10:09 AM

The more I look at this photo, in spite of being far from an expert, there are so many things that look way wrong on this piece to me.
Dial, bezel (for more than one reason), case, hands.

I don't think seller will be providing any better photos on this.

timepiece4u · 4 January 2016, 02:02 PM

I'm also not expecting any other pictures, since it's been a couple of weeks without any reply from seller. Thanks for your help.

occb2 · 4 January 2016, 05:27 PM

The question of the GMT and the GMT II is what I am learning about now. I won a case on eBay. Its a 1999 GMT case. It's case number is 16700. Which is a GMT. The 16710 and variations are GMT II. The bezel's are identical and you can swap out the inserts, black, coke, pepsi. Hope that helps.

18 December 2015, 10:39 AM	#1
timepiece4u 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: New York Posts: 430	Real or not 16710 Is this watch authentic and what's a fair price. I was offered it at 4k. Attached Images

18 December 2015, 12:53 PM	#2
cajunron 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,872	Is that the only picture you have? Usually if the price seems too good to be true....... __________________

18 December 2015, 01:40 PM	#3
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,764	Real or not 16710 Looks ok from that one pic Edit: and yes, if indeed real, that's a good deal. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

18 December 2015, 02:02 PM	#5
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	Hard to tell from that one poor pix. __________________ E

18 December 2015, 03:44 PM	#9
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Please post more pics Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

18 December 2015, 01:50 PM	#4
hunterp27 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: JHP Location: Fairview, TX Watch: WG 18039 Day/Date Posts: 789	Man it's really really hard to make an authentication call on one poor photo. Need really clear pics from lots of angles to have confidence....

18 December 2015, 02:50 PM	#6
sickened1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: SoCal Watch: ugiveiswatchuget Posts: 9,054	Isn't 16710 a GMT-Master II? On that dial it says only GMT-Master which is supposed to be 1675/16700/16750. Also the fonts on the bezel look off to me but I could be wrong.

18 December 2015, 03:02 PM	#7
timepiece4u 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: New York Posts: 430	Thanks. Requested more pictures.

18 December 2015, 10:41 PM	#10
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	Yes more pics needed __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

19 December 2015, 03:03 AM	#11
Bocktagon "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Seamaster GMT Posts: 264	I think it's weird that all of your posts are only about watches being real or fake.

4 January 2016, 07:47 AM	#15
timepiece4u 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: New York Posts: 430	Sorry for the late reply. I requested more pics, but the person hasn't send them. And no, I'm not trying to scam anyone, if a deal is too good to be true, I would like an expert opinion. As in this case I still didn't receive additional pictures. Feel free to check my references on eBay under Watchesnstuff4u

19 December 2015, 09:34 PM	#16
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Was there 16710 variation dials without the "II" in the GMT-Master text? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

4 January 2016, 07:44 AM	#17
timepiece4u 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: New York Posts: 430	Sorry for the late reply. I requested more pics, but the person hasn't send them. And no, I'm not trying to scam anyone, if a deal is too good to be true, I would like an expert opinion. As in this case I still didn't receive additional pictures. Feel free to check my references on eBay under Watchesnstuff4u

4 January 2016, 09:54 AM	#18
Roller07 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: GMT -5 Watch: HulkPepsiCoke Posts: 2,364	Whatever it is, it's not a 16710. __________________

4 January 2016, 10:09 AM	#19
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 5,316	The more I look at this photo, in spite of being far from an expert, there are so many things that look way wrong on this piece to me. Dial, bezel (for more than one reason), case, hands. I don't think seller will be providing any better photos on this.

4 January 2016, 02:02 PM	#20
timepiece4u 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: New York Posts: 430	I'm also not expecting any other pictures, since it's been a couple of weeks without any reply from seller. Thanks for your help.

4 January 2016, 05:27 PM	#21
occb2 Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Robert Location: New York Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 321	The question of the GMT and the GMT II is what I am learning about now. I won a case on eBay. Its a 1999 GMT case. It's case number is 16700. Which is a GMT. The 16710 and variations are GMT II. The bezel's are identical and you can swap out the inserts, black, coke, pepsi. Hope that helps.

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