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Old 22 December 2015, 08:37 AM   #1
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Advice: Audemars Diver to buy or not to buy?

Hey guys,

Recently I asked you about a Audemars Diver and you prevented me from making an expensive mistake.

Now an Audemars Diver is for sale at a dealer next to me with a solid reputation. It says that it was serviced at WEMPE (one of the largest jeweler chains here in Germany).

Can you tell me if this Diver is ok and if the service was made properly (I'm little concerned that it wasn't serviced at Audemars):

http://www.bachmann-scher.de/de/Aude...-New-8875.html

Thanks in advance for your advice.
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Old 22 December 2015, 12:24 PM   #2
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Fear not, Wempe have brand trained service technicians, and you’ll have the same 2 year guarantee as you would if done by AP themselves, iirc.
That said, you should perhaps also consider the limited edition Scuba models made by AP specifically for Wempe.

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/audemarsp...-id3662902.htm
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/audemarsp...-id3735041.htm
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/audemarsp...-id3617651.htm
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/audemarsp...-id2607598.htm
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Old 22 December 2015, 04:20 PM   #3
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Fear not, Wempe have brand trained service technicians, and you’ll have the same 2 year guarantee as you would if done by AP themselves, iirc.
That said, you should perhaps also consider the limited edition Scuba models made by AP specifically for Wempe.
They're nice pieces but I prefer without numerals and with clear back, would definitely take the new SS diver if I wanted a SS diver watch
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Old 23 December 2015, 07:42 AM   #4
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Fear not, Wempe have brand trained service technicians, and you’ll have the same 2 year guarantee as you would if done by AP themselves, iirc.
When I spoke with Wempe London previously, about the servicing cost of a GO, for a member on another forum, I came away with the understanding that they had trained watch technicians on-site.
Today’s call revealed that only quartz watch battery replacement is undertaken, and all other watches go to their respective manufacturer for servicing/repair.

Unless that’s different in Germany, where some of the Wempe boutiques do have trained watch technicians (which may explain the discrepancy), then the watch would’ve been dealt with by AP themselves.

A moot point, seeing as it’s no longer listed, but worth clarifying for future reference.
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Old 22 December 2015, 12:29 PM   #5
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If you like the AP diver than get it. Nothing to think about it's a great watch. I prefer the 15400 for the same price but that's just me. If you want something a little more sporty go with the diver. If you want something a little more dressy go with the 15400. But both will do the job as a daily wear.
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Old 22 December 2015, 01:38 PM   #6
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Seriously Brandon, did you even read the OP’s post?
It isn’t about you and what you like – he’s asking if there’s anything untoward about the ROO linked, not if he should be considering a different RO entirely!
Did you just make up your own question so you could post your answer, in the hope it was vaguely relevant to the topic at hand?
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Old 22 December 2015, 01:42 PM   #7
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Seriously Brandon, did you even read the OP’s post?
It isn’t about you and what you like – he’s asking if there’s anything untoward about the ROO linked, not if he should be considering a different RO entirely!
Did you just make up your own question so you could post your answer, in the hope it was vaguely relevant to the topic at hand?
How is that any different than you suggesting the Scuba??

OP have you considered trusted sellers here on TRF? I'd go for a LNIB rather than a post serviced AP especially if you have any doubts whatsoever about the seller
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Old 23 December 2015, 12:30 AM   #8
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Seriously Brandon, did you even read the OP’s post?
It isn’t about you and what you like – he’s asking if there’s anything untoward about the ROO linked, not if he should be considering a different RO entirely!
Did you just make up your own question so you could post your answer, in the hope it was vaguely relevant to the topic at hand?
He has 1800 posts in just a couple months - I think we know the answer to that one. I love the engagement here - but his flooding of every thread with poor grammar, spelling, and off-topic content is taxing on my nerves.

Back on topic, I think that on that particular watch, I'd wonder why the servicing wasn't done at APSC, too.
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Old 22 December 2015, 06:18 PM   #10
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OP, I'm sure that seller is A-OK. However...

That Diver seems quite soft in it's case angles. They may have polished it in-house, and then it's rarely done right.

Remember, an AP should have sharp angles and lines. Not soft ones. A soft AP is a "ruined" AP IMHO.

But surely this is a safe watch to buy, besides the polishing done wrong.
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OP, I'm sure that seller is A-OK. However...

That Diver seems quite soft in it's case angles. They may have polished it in-house, and then it's rarely done right.

Remember, and AP should have sharp angles and lines. Not soft ones. A soft AP is a "ruined" AP IMHO.

But surely this is a safe watch to buy, besides the polishing done wrong.
Andreas is 100% right, a correctly polished watch looses a lot of the interest for me, I prefer scratches but the watch integrity to be preserved, but a badly polished one is a wasted watch IMO good for a bezel and case change, and would disgust me so that I wouldn't be able to wear it, especially when it comes to watches with polished/brushed surfaces like on RO and ROO models, that's really a NO GO for me...
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Old 22 December 2015, 08:07 PM   #12
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OK guys, thanks for the advice on the polishing.

And I want to buy particularly a new diver and no 15400 or scuba ;)
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Old 23 December 2015, 12:14 AM   #13
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A 15710 Diver (the New one) won't set you back much more.
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Old 23 December 2015, 12:59 AM   #14
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Ok guys calm down ;)

I think this one is already sold - not to me - and therefore we can stop this thread.
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I love the AP diver. I think the I series has a new movement as well. That's the one I'd go for.
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I got mine from Takuya. He seems to have a lot of AP's BNIB with fair pricing. I'd definitely recommend him.
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No change in movement for 15710, just the display caseback – otherwise the same as what’s in the 15703.
Changed the dial from glossy to matte, as well as stamped tapisserie.
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No change in movement for 15710, just the display caseback – otherwise the same as what’s in the 15703.
Changed the dial from glossy to matte, as well as stamped tapisserie.
same movement but some 'issues' have been corrected. well documented in the 15710ST articles
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