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4 January 2016, 06:39 PM | #1 |
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1680 - Real or Fake
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Kindly advise real or fake ? The seller said bracelet is fake. But no idea about the watch. Many thanks in advance. |
4 January 2016, 10:40 PM | #2 |
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70216 band number?
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Well, if it's a fake, it's a really nice case...
I can't see the dial well enough to comment on that. Could be a Frankenstein. What is the serial? How do the serial and model number engravings look? |
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Letter E is equal with both ends. Case serial 457,000 200M letter M is curved at end. Dial font is small & i can't find an example. The above is what I discovered reading blogs & foums. This is the first vintage I am handling. Kindly advise further. Thanks |
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5 January 2016, 01:21 AM | #6 |
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Admitted fake band.
Then look at these two and decide. Aside from dial and bezel, check out lugs. |
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Need to turn many times then it just stop & with a little force it can move again. A few times it stop & lock. Watch head with a little pressure up & down, can feel the movement knocking the case. |
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Pictures are worth 1000 words.
Without a lot more high quality pictures I would not spend more than $2000.00 US on this, assuming movement picture is of the actual watch for sale. Probably best to avoid it if you can't get many sharp close up photos because it might be a really good fake. |
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Submariner has traces of red turning white. Kindly advise the below picture. |
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Serial range would not be correct for a red sub so the dial may have value (if genuine- not looking good right now) but that would certainly make me hesitate since it is clearly not the right case. My initial reaction (RUN AWAY) stands... |
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Something off with the case look at the lugs
Pearl is wrong too I see it now too look at the shape of original movement rotor compared to OP,s and colour of gears is off That is a total fake, a very good one too bottom of 12 marker is also too far away from the top of rolex crown, should almost touch
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Looking on my big monitor now...
Dial is fake. Insert is fake. Crown probably fake. Bracelet (known) fake. Movement under question- bridges look OK so it could be a fake with genuine bridges; however I am not aware of fake 15xx movements; only 3035's as used in 16610 era. Could be aftermarket parts on a gen movement too. five digit serial on the movement may be quite a bit older than the (I assume you meant) 4.5m serial range... Final verdict (from me): RUN AWAY!!!!! |
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sorry my wrong, yes serial is 4,500,000 high possibility this movement 1570 is genuine ? it ticks quite loud, like metal hitting metal. |
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Is the date not on the small side ?
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Likely due to the service crystal. Note mine also has a service dial.
Mine is smaller too, due to the crystal: |
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dial fake
Insert fake crown fake 4.5 mil sn# puts it as a replacement case.. but given that everything else is fake.. why put a gen case on it? Especially if you're too cheap to put a gen 702 crown for $75
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