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hrhazzard · 15 January 2016, 06:08 PM

I am so disappointed in the new Rolex cases. The fat lugs and crown protectors look ridiculous. For that money I am totally not interested. I am looking at some older model New Never Worn 16570 and 16610LV. My advice to Rolex is to bring back the last model 16000 Series cases. At the very least reduce the lug width and crown guard width or put a 22mm bracelet on there. I also prefer the shape to the older models. it was more artful and masculine. I have yet to talk with anyone who likes the looks of this watch. Comments please!

xelor69 · 15 January 2016, 07:24 PM

maybe it looks ridiculous to you, but many people love it... a matter of taste

Eric Chan · 18 January 2016, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xelor69

maybe it looks ridiculous to you, but many people love it... a matter of taste

This just about sums it up.

Gasoil4ever · 15 January 2016, 08:05 PM

I have to agree with the OP.

That's why my only "modern" option in the "sub-sea-GMT" line up was the SD4k.

capote · 15 January 2016, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gasoil4ever

I have to agree with the OP.

That's why my only "modern" option in the "sub-sea-GMT" line up was the SD4k.

I agree, that case makes sense

Glidelock · 15 January 2016, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gasoil4ever

I have to agree with the OP.

That's why my only "modern" option in the "sub-sea-GMT" line up was the SD4k.

Yup... Couldn't agree more! That is why I flipped my SubC LN for my SDC4K, and have never looked back. And, with as much as I love my Sub LVC based on that dial and bezel...it would get a lot more wrist time if it were of the same case dimensions as SDC4K!!!

alanc · 15 January 2016, 09:30 PM

Welcome to the forum.

I agree with you, but many do love the new case dimensions. If I get a sub it will be a five-number reference, but hey, I'm an old fogey, what do I know?

LuminousMaximus · 17 January 2016, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gasoil4ever

I have to agree with the OP.

That's why my only "modern" option in the "sub-sea-GMT" line up was the SD4k.

Amen to that Brother!

madmole · 15 January 2016, 10:01 PM

I'm the opposite, I prefer the new case, the old crown guards look too dainty, pointy to me for a tool watch. if your gonna have guards and lugs have proper ones!

capote · 15 January 2016, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by madmole

I'm the opposite, I prefer the new case, the old crown guards look too dainty, pointy to me for a tool watch. if your gonna have guards and lugs have proper ones!

Those "dainty" pointy CG worked pretty well when it actually was a tool watch.

watchwatcher · 15 January 2016, 10:05 PM

To each his own...but Rolex doesn't go backwards.

rossi46 · 16 January 2016, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by watchwatcher

To each his own...but Rolex doesn't go backwards.

Except, of course, downsizing the Day-Date to 40mm.

I'm in agreement with OP: there might have been room to make the lugs a little beefier, but Rolex went overboard. It simply does not look as clean on the wrist as the older series. There's no doubt the newer bracelet, bezel, crown guards are better, but stylistically I would welcome slimmer lugs.

Gasoil4ever · 16 January 2016, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rossi46

Except, of course, downsizing the Day-Date to 40mm.

+1 and also produced the SD4k... With narrower lugs...

GB-man · 16 January 2016, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dysondiver

welcome to the forum ,,, just vote with your wallet ,,,

SDc is the answer and it's damn good

123Blueface · 17 January 2016, 07:31 AM

Tastes vary.
Different strokes for different folks as they say.
I love the new lugs.
Love the larger appearance it gives the watch.
Given acceptance overall and sales, doubt Rolex feels they made a mistake.

Mick P · 17 January 2016, 11:46 PM

Chaps

Yes it is all a matter of taste.

If you prefer to wear a good quality watch that flies under the radar, the older the better.

If you want something that stands out, go for the latest model.

Regards

Mick

watchwatcher · 16 January 2016, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rossi46

Except, of course, downsizing the Day-Date to 40mm.

I'm in agreement with OP: there might have been room to make the lugs a little beefier, but Rolex went overboard. It simply does not look as clean on the wrist as the older series. There's no doubt the newer bracelet, bezel, crown guards are better, but stylistically I would welcome slimmer lugs.

Sorry, downsizing the DD2 to 40 is not going backwards...it's decreasing the case size. Going backwards would have meant going back to 36mm.

As far as the lugs, it's been debated to death here. As I said, to each his own.

rossi46 · 17 January 2016, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Sorry, downsizing the DD2 to 40 is not going backwards...it's decreasing the case size. Going backwards would have meant going back to 36mm.

What are you talking about? That's about as clear as mud.

How would Rolex "go backwards" by going to 36mm... when the DD 36mm already exists.

perryj · 13 May 2016, 12:27 PM

I don't like the beefier lugs either.

brandrea · 15 January 2016, 10:27 PM

Welcome to the forum.

I appreciate both

Gerardus · 16 January 2016, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Welcome to the forum.

I appreciate both

same for me

Justinmg · 15 January 2016, 11:21 PM

5 digit all the way!! I flipped my subc and wouldn't buy any of the new Rolex models.

xelor69 · 15 January 2016, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Justinmg

5 digit all the way!! I flipped my subc and wouldn't buy any of the new Rolex models.

flipped my 116600 and went back to classic

Jfullm42 · 16 January 2016, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xelor69

flipped my 116600 and went back to classic

Did the same thing. Love the five digit case design!

Rocket_Man · 16 January 2016, 09:07 PM

I like the new cases in the 40mm size. My wrist just doesn't wear a larger watch, I've tried. I wore an older 36mm case for years, but I like the higher quality of the new materials and bracelets. I don't care for the proportions of the DJII, they just look a little off to me. I know plenty like them and that is just fine. After looking at a 36mm DJ for years, it is imprinted on my mind I suppose. What Rolex did with the 40mm DD I hope they do with the DJII. If I could afford a 40mm DD I'd have one. If they make a 40MM DJ I will have one. The familiar proportions of the 40mm DD just sing to me, the DJII doesn't. But the new cases are superior to the older cases. But luckily there are plenty of both still around to please both tastes.

Muzz · 16 January 2016, 12:28 AM

Sales would suggest they made a move in the right direction. Lucky for you there are plenty of discontinued pieces to be had a great prices.

KBM · 16 January 2016, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Muzz

Sales would suggest they made a move in the right direction. Lucky for you there are plenty of discontinued pieces to be had a great prices.

Exactly. There are more than enough pieces on the market to serve all tastes. Welcome to TRF.

JJL · 16 January 2016, 12:41 AM

It's really a matter of taste. While I tend to agree with you, there is obviously market for the 6 digit refs. Luckily there are tons of minty 5 digit refs available on the second hand market, as well as NOS pieces. Or is it the ceramic bezel / lume that you'd prefer on the 5 digit case?

Ever consider a 4 digit reference? 1680, 1665, 1675, 5513? I mean, talk about a time piece with some true character. Vintage is an incredible avenue to explore.

beshannon · 16 January 2016, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hrhazzard

I am so disappointed in the new Rolex cases. The fat lugs and crown protectors look ridiculous. For that money I am totally not interested. I am looking at some older model New Never Worn 16570 and 16610LV. My advice to Rolex is to bring back the last model 16000 Series cases. At the very least reduce the lug width and crown guard width or put a 22mm bracelet on there. I also prefer the shape to the older models. it was more artful and masculine. I have yet to talk with anyone who likes the looks of this watch. Comments please!

I like mine.

There are a lot of watches out there, buy vintage

Andrés G · 16 January 2016, 12:50 AM

I prefer the new case and bracelet. In my opinion, Rolex made the right decision.

15 January 2016, 06:08 PM	#1
hrhazzard "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Charlotte, NC USA Posts: 8	Please bring back the 16000 series cases! I am so disappointed in the new Rolex cases. The fat lugs and crown protectors look ridiculous. For that money I am totally not interested. I am looking at some older model New Never Worn 16570 and 16610LV. My advice to Rolex is to bring back the last model 16000 Series cases. At the very least reduce the lug width and crown guard width or put a 22mm bracelet on there. I also prefer the shape to the older models. it was more artful and masculine. I have yet to talk with anyone who likes the looks of this watch. Comments please!

15 January 2016, 08:05 PM	#4
Gasoil4ever "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cameroun Watch: GS Snowflake Posts: 1,534	Please bring back the 16000 series cases! I have to agree with the OP. That's why my only "modern" option in the "sub-sea-GMT" line up was the SD4k. __________________ 16710 GMT Master II "M" , SD4000, GS Snowflake, Stowa Marine Original.

13 May 2016, 12:27 PM	#19
perryj "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Watch: Rolex, Swatch Posts: 952	I don't like the beefier lugs either. __________________ Rolex Datejust 16200 current Rolex Ceramic Submariner Date sold Rolex Submariner 14060 sold Rolex Explorer I and II both sold Rolex Datejust 16233 and 16234 sold

15 January 2016, 07:24 PM	#2
xelor69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NZ Watch: ♛ 16600 Posts: 98	maybe it looks ridiculous to you, but many people love it... a matter of taste

15 January 2016, 09:30 PM	#7
alanc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Alan Location: Connecticut Watch: 114270 16710B Posts: 1,062	Welcome to the forum. I agree with you, but many do love the new case dimensions. If I get a sub it will be a five-number reference, but hey, I'm an old fogey, what do I know?

15 January 2016, 10:01 PM	#9
madmole "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Stephen Location: London Watch: 116610LN Posts: 115	I'm the opposite, I prefer the new case, the old crown guards look too dainty, pointy to me for a tool watch. if your gonna have guards and lugs have proper ones!

15 January 2016, 10:05 PM	#11
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,055	To each his own...but Rolex doesn't go backwards.

17 January 2016, 07:31 AM	#15
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 5,316	Tastes vary. Different strokes for different folks as they say. I love the new lugs. Love the larger appearance it gives the watch. Given acceptance overall and sales, doubt Rolex feels they made a mistake.

17 January 2016, 11:46 PM	#16
Mick P Banned Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: UK / Spain Watch: 39mm Explorer Posts: 1,990	Chaps Yes it is all a matter of taste. If you prefer to wear a good quality watch that flies under the radar, the older the better. If you want something that stands out, go for the latest model. Regards Mick

15 January 2016, 10:27 PM	#20
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,136	Welcome to the forum. I appreciate both

15 January 2016, 11:21 PM	#22
Justinmg "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Justin Location: FL Watch: PO/EXPL Posts: 3,371	5 digit all the way!! I flipped my subc and wouldn't buy any of the new Rolex models.

16 January 2016, 09:07 PM	#25
Rocket_Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,332	I like the new cases in the 40mm size. My wrist just doesn't wear a larger watch, I've tried. I wore an older 36mm case for years, but I like the higher quality of the new materials and bracelets. I don't care for the proportions of the DJII, they just look a little off to me. I know plenty like them and that is just fine. After looking at a 36mm DJ for years, it is imprinted on my mind I suppose. What Rolex did with the 40mm DD I hope they do with the DJII. If I could afford a 40mm DD I'd have one. If they make a 40MM DJ I will have one. The familiar proportions of the 40mm DD just sing to me, the DJII doesn't. But the new cases are superior to the older cases. But luckily there are plenty of both still around to please both tastes.

16 January 2016, 12:28 AM	#26
Muzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: TO CAD, HCMC VN Watch: MP 18946 Posts: 7,292	Sales would suggest they made a move in the right direction. Lucky for you there are plenty of discontinued pieces to be had a great prices.

16 January 2016, 12:41 AM	#28
JJL "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Watch: 1680 Red & 16622 Posts: 2,449	It's really a matter of taste. While I tend to agree with you, there is obviously market for the 6 digit refs. Luckily there are tons of minty 5 digit refs available on the second hand market, as well as NOS pieces. Or is it the ceramic bezel / lume that you'd prefer on the 5 digit case? Ever consider a 4 digit reference? 1680, 1665, 1675, 5513? I mean, talk about a time piece with some true character. Vintage is an incredible avenue to explore.

16 January 2016, 12:50 AM	#30
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,392	I prefer the new case and bracelet. In my opinion, Rolex made the right decision.

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