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Old 19 January 2016, 10:07 AM   #1
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Shouldn't all high end sport watches be like this?

I am not a huge VC fan, but one thing I do like with their new overseas collection is that you can go between bracelet, rubber or leather strap without problem.

It gets really tiring when you put 20-30K in a sports watch and the manufacturer does everything in his power to prohibit you changing anything, if you get a Nautilus on bracelet it is impossible to put a strap, and vice versa, , even Rolex does it, when I got my Daytona RG on strap I asked and was told that it was impossible to put a bracelet on it because of the different lug width, they are becoming very boring with this, I would love when I get my 5712 to be able to go from bracelet to rubber, even to leather if I want to, how long will brands play this little game of limiting the possibilities of making the watch like you want and when you want…

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Old 19 January 2016, 10:08 AM   #2
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Old 19 January 2016, 10:14 AM   #3
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agree! its great to have that choice. Thats why I love the speedmaster, simple to go between bracelet/strap/nato.

One negative about this is that it has to be a VC strap that you'd have to use because of the notch.

Still a great idea and innovation.
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Old 19 January 2016, 10:48 AM   #4
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Depends how you look at watches. If they're art, you can't make this point any more than you can fault Hemingway for not writing chose your own adventures or Chopin for now letting you whistle along to his ballades. If you see them as purely functional, I agree to a point, but it seems bad business for these companies to allow you to radically change a watch rather than buy two.
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Old 19 January 2016, 10:53 AM   #5
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It’s not their idea and innovation – Cartier patented the idea back in 1994, and as both VC and IWC are also Richemont Group owned, they are permitted use of the patent to make their own variant.
It’ll be interesting to see what the rest of the industry does post-2019 in this respect.

As for being stuck with VC being the sole supplier of straps – yes on the rubber, but any good custom strapmaker should be able to re-use the leather strap’s insert, if you fancied something different than OE.
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Old 19 January 2016, 10:53 AM   #6
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I love the ability to change straps, wish my nautilus did that
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Old 19 January 2016, 11:02 AM   #7
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well that is indeed a good point

everytime there is a new strap switched on i feel like wearing a brand new watch
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Old 19 January 2016, 11:07 AM   #8
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Can change straps with AP and RM.
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Old 19 January 2016, 11:35 AM   #9
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I agree customer should have the options to choose the strap. I don't think it is a good idea to include all the options as the price will increase because the cost of additional strap will build in.
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Old 19 January 2016, 11:41 AM   #10
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Yes, it is a very good feature.
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Old 19 January 2016, 11:53 AM   #11
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I like the new overseas, I am a little sad to see the big date go on the chrono though.

The strap options are pretty nice however.
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Old 19 January 2016, 12:43 PM   #12
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Old 19 January 2016, 01:44 PM   #13
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VC did a great job this New SiHH 2016!
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Old 19 January 2016, 03:46 PM   #14
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Old 20 January 2016, 12:07 AM   #15
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15202 bracelet to strap still not found
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Old 19 January 2016, 09:16 PM   #16
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Have to agree I love the feature and fancy the 3 hander overseas.
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Old 23 January 2016, 05:37 PM   #17
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PP Aquanaut 5167 is interchangeable with the rubber strap and bracelet.



And that's one of my favorite VC's if not my favorite.
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Old 23 January 2016, 10:41 PM   #18
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Old 23 January 2016, 10:48 PM   #19
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Love the idea and concept....underwhelmed with the new range and not even going to the launch at the AD
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Old 23 January 2016, 11:18 PM   #20
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Love the idea of the swappable straps. Also it now has an in-house movement and a clear case back so you can see it. I'm eager to see one in person.
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Old 23 January 2016, 11:23 PM   #21
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As an avid option lover I say not yes but hell yes!
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Old 23 January 2016, 11:31 PM   #22
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I do like owners having an option vs factory enforced bans on different straps/bracelets.
I wouldn't be so sure about the VC's attachment robustness for a sports watch that might get torqued under strenuous activity.
That narrow center connection just looks less capable to me vs full width end links.


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Old 23 January 2016, 11:38 PM   #23
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I do like owners having an option vs factory enforced bans on different straps/bracelets.
I wouldn't be so sure about the VC's attachment robustness for a sports watch that might get torqued under strenuous activity.
That narrow center connection just looks less capable to me vs full width end links.


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Very good points, Paul Especially with the rubber and leather. But certainly like the concept.
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Old 24 January 2016, 10:12 AM   #24
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Let's see here... a completely proprietary strap system that locks you into the manufacturer's options and has a connection that looks about 5 mm wide.

Yes, that's much better than having normal full-width lugs. :P
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Old 24 January 2016, 10:32 AM   #25
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Depends how you look at watches. If they're art, you can't make this point any more than you can fault Hemingway for not writing chose your own adventures or Chopin for now letting you whistle along to his ballades. If you see them as purely functional, I agree to a point, but it seems bad business for these companies to allow you to radically change a watch rather than buy two.
I do look at them as art but like some look at Lambos or Ferraris as art, mechanical art and as an owner you should have the right and possibility to change if you wish to do so

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well that is indeed a good point

everytime there is a new strap switched on i feel like wearing a brand new watch
exactly, had that with Panerai

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Can change straps with AP and RM.
True, they are one of the few high end brands which do it, and god for them

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I agree customer should have the options to choose the strap. I don't think it is a good idea to include all the options as the price will increase because the cost of additional strap will build in.
Yeah if the prices I heard for the new VC's are correct they are crazy

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Yes, it is a very good feature.
can't imagine wearing my ceramic diver other than on rubber but when I get back my 5712 would love to go from rubber to bracelet, but no...

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I like the new overseas, I am a little sad to see the big date go on the chrono though.

The strap options are pretty nice however.
They crapped up the chrono I prefer way more the old version for the date and 8 piece bezel compared to 6 now...

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I don't agree, they just did for the straps IMO, always thought I might get an overseas in blue with big date, chrono or dual time, but nope...

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Have to agree I love the feature and fancy the 3 hander overseas.
The 3 hander is nice, was expecting much better though for the whole...

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15202 bracelet to strap still not found
Because it's THE icon and must be only on bracelet, I think it's the reason

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PP Aquanaut 5167 is interchangeable with the rubber strap and bracelet.

And that's one of my favorite VC's if not my favorite.
Yeah but can't say I find the Aqua bracelet very sexy ain't a nautilus or RObracelet

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I do like owners having an option vs factory enforced bans on different straps/bracelets.
I wouldn't be so sure about the VC's attachment robustness for a sports watch that might get torqued under strenuous activity.
That narrow center connection just looks less capable to me vs full width end links.
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yeah doesn't look very tough...

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Let's see here... a completely proprietary strap system that locks you into the manufacturer's options and has a connection that looks about 5 mm wide.

Yes, that's much better than having normal full-width lugs. :P
I just said that being able to switch is nice, didn't say the 5mm wide or being locked to the manufacturer, but it's almost always the case if you want quality, was a good thing...
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Old 24 January 2016, 10:22 AM   #26
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Shouldn't all high end sport watches be like this?

Well...liked the new VC designs. Pretty spendy for what you get, but one of the "Holy Trinity" of watchmaking does not come cheap.

The strap connection looks a bit tenuous, but I hope they know what they're doing.

Panerai sure seems to spur a strap economy. Not sure 3rd parties will rush to support a lower volume watch like VC tho.
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Old 24 January 2016, 10:34 AM   #27
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Well...liked the new VC designs. Pretty spendy for what you get, but one of the "Holy Trinity" of watchmaking does not come cheap.

The strap connection looks a bit tenuous, but I hope they know what they're doing.

Panerai sure seems to spur a strap economy. Not sure 3rd parties will rush to support a lower volume watch like VC tho.
They're too expensive for what they are, overseas ain't no RO or Nautilus, they haven't reached that perfection in design or iconic status, they're just well built luxury sport watches, if I wanted a chrono I would buy an old version, you can get them new at half price of the new ones...
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Old 24 January 2016, 07:54 PM   #28
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You can also have same trivet rubber,bracelet and leather so to speak in Breguet Marine Series as well
To VC's credit, you don't need any small tool to change the strap that's a very neat feature hoping it wouldn't comprise the watch's integrity when diving or doing some activities
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Old 1 February 2016, 07:17 AM   #29
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Easily swappable bracelets are a great idea
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Old 2 February 2016, 04:05 AM   #30
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I totally agree but sadly not all companies play along. In fact my old VC 49140 is bracelet only. So I get around this by purchasing multiple watches. I keep a couple on bracelets, a couple on leather, and a couple on rubber straps. The WIS workaround.


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