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lamadoo · 2 February 2016, 09:44 PM

Hi guys, i have a polar explorer II 16570 that i absolutely adore. I brought it couple of weeks ago but didn't notice that it was overpolished to death on the lugs. Its a no holes case. Was wondering about the cost of a new case from RSC and the cost for such a thing?

I showed it to a reputable watchmaker in Sydney and he said its a classic case of bad polishing. I got a quote for about 1k+ AUD dollars for laser welding everything back to factory settings. In comparison what is the cost for a new case?

Its my favorite Rolex by far, I have it on straps atm since its impossible to notice with that. Thanks for ur input and help guys

Sublovin · 2 February 2016, 10:08 PM

Wow...really? You really want to buy a new case? My 16570 is polished, dinged and still looks great. Tough to tell from that picture but I wouldn't worry about it...just enjoy the watch. It is a rugged explorers watch after all, not a dress watch

cdmorenot · 2 February 2016, 10:16 PM

It'll be more than $1K

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lamadoo · 2 February 2016, 10:24 PM

Only 1k 'ish usd for a new case?

Its noticeable when I run my fingers over the bracelet and lug so photos are not a good judge. im OCD i need it fixed

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Jim Smyth · 2 February 2016, 10:44 PM

If your OCD I would have just bought a new watch then. Odds of being happy with any used watch isnt good imo. Actually it doesn't look bad to me. Yes over polished but still looks very nice. I would enjoy it for a while and then trade it in for a new watch so you dont have to go through it again.

T. Ferguson · 4 February 2016, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lamadoo

Only 1k 'ish usd for a new case?

Its noticeable when I run my fingers over the bracelet and lug so photos are not a good judge. im OCD i need it fixed

Dude, if you're that OCD you picked the wrong sport.

Sublovin · 2 February 2016, 10:41 PM

When you get a new one, can you send me the old one? It's probably in better shape than mine! Ha!

airchitect · 2 February 2016, 11:04 PM

The value of your watch with an original polished case should still be greater than a service case. Don't do it.

itsmekevin · 2 February 2016, 11:05 PM

I would sell it as is, then purchase a new one. Might be a better route.

southcarolina1801 · 2 February 2016, 11:14 PM

I'd flip it and buy another.

Hpozzuoli · 2 February 2016, 11:22 PM

I saw an empty datejust ss case on eBay a few days ago. I believe the BIN was $2k. Figures I can't find the dam listing now.

kilyung · 2 February 2016, 11:24 PM

Flip and replace

REFZ · 2 February 2016, 11:40 PM

If it bothers you that much selling this piece and buying another one would probably be the cheapest option.

Old Expat Beast · 3 February 2016, 12:02 AM

Flip it. RSC won't replace a case unless it is seriously trashed.

WAK4 · 3 February 2016, 12:18 AM

I'd be surprised if Rolex would replace the case without performing a full service, which I think is 750-800 USD now?

Unless you can get a case on your own and have an independent swap it out, you're starting close to 1k before the cost of the case comes into play.

How are you about value retention? I believe a new case means a new serial #...may not go over well with buyers in the future if you think you'll sell.

As the others said, if it's that big of a deal, flip and replace. Or live with it. Looks fine to me.

Fleetlord · 3 February 2016, 01:08 AM

1) Sell the Explorer II immediately. Don't put another penny into it. Not .01.

2) DO NOT buy another ROLEX yet. You should not have bought this one in the first place, which tells me you aren't knowledgeable yet.

3) Research, research, research...especially if you are buying a preowned reference.

4) Best thing really is buy a BRAND NEW Rolex from an AD....but that ref EXP II is not available at AD anymore, so if you really want that one...do the research.

STEELINOX · 4 February 2016, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

1) Sell the Explorer II immediately. Don't put another penny into it. Not .01.

2) DO NOT buy another ROLEX yet. You should not have bought this one in the first place, which tells me you aren't knowledgeable yet.

3) Research, research, research...especially if you are buying a preowned reference.

4) Best thing really is buy a BRAND NEW Rolex from an AD....but that ref EXP II is not available at AD anymore, so if you really want that one...do the research.

Wow !

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Watchflair · 3 February 2016, 01:11 AM

Your watch is fine - no need to look into replacing the case.

If it bothers you that much then sell it and get another one in better condition.

Thailawson · 3 February 2016, 01:19 AM

SMH...watch is trashed.

Please ship to my house.

HogwldFLTR · 3 February 2016, 01:31 AM

It's a tool watch not jewelry, imho. Wear it as a time piece. Even in brand new condition if won't be worth significantly more.

brgsstm · 3 February 2016, 01:45 AM

That's a holes case.....?

Lgear080 · 3 February 2016, 01:58 AM

What are you seeing that I am not? Just wear the watch.

HERITAGE82 · 3 February 2016, 02:11 AM

There is nothing wrong with the case

antbkny · 3 February 2016, 02:14 AM

flip it and buy another. why bother with a watch that annoys you?

Tvall13 · 3 February 2016, 03:00 AM

I'm gonna be honest, I can't even really tell what the problem is?

Tools · 3 February 2016, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvall13

I'm gonna be honest, I can't even really tell what the problem is?

I agree

The points where the OP says it is "overpolished" is where the end-link is even with the lug on one side.

Using the bracelet end-link as a reference point for the case lug thickness is wrong..they all fit a little bit differently. I have watches that have never been worked on and the end-link sits even with the lug horn..

lamadoo · 3 February 2016, 01:08 PM

Thanks for ur input guys

wow thank you for that information tools, that took alot of stress away

is it because back then they polished it by hand or the machines weren't precision accurate in cutting holes and cases ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

I agree

The points where the OP says it is "overpolished" is where the end-link is even with the lug on one side.

Using the bracelet end-link as a reference point for the case lug thickness is wrong..they all fit a little bit differently. I have watches that have never been worked on and the end-link sits even with the lug horn..

watchwatcher · 3 February 2016, 04:16 AM

Relax...enjoy your watch. Don't overthink it.

Sublover2166 · 3 February 2016, 04:59 AM

OP if you have serious OCD this hobby may not be very enjoyable for you.
If the watch bothers you that much, as been said time to let it go and buy something new.

sickened1 · 3 February 2016, 05:02 AM

Also don't get a loupe. It may drive you nuts when you see all the micro scratches.

2 February 2016, 09:44 PM	#1
lamadoo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Sydney Posts: 61	Idea of the cost of a new case? Hi guys, i have a polar explorer II 16570 that i absolutely adore. I brought it couple of weeks ago but didn't notice that it was overpolished to death on the lugs. Its a no holes case. Was wondering about the cost of a new case from RSC and the cost for such a thing? I showed it to a reputable watchmaker in Sydney and he said its a classic case of bad polishing. I got a quote for about 1k+ AUD dollars for laser welding everything back to factory settings. In comparison what is the cost for a new case? Its my favorite Rolex by far, I have it on straps atm since its impossible to notice with that. Thanks for ur input and help guys Attached Images

2 February 2016, 10:16 PM	#3
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2 February 2016, 11:40 PM	#13
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3 February 2016, 01:11 AM	#18
Watchflair 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Westchester NY Watch: Love em all Posts: 5,920	Your watch is fine - no need to look into replacing the case. If it bothers you that much then sell it and get another one in better condition. __________________ Remember what matters. Value everyday

3 February 2016, 01:31 AM	#20
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,695	It's a tool watch not jewelry, imho. Wear it as a time piece. Even in brand new condition if won't be worth significantly more. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

2 February 2016, 10:08 PM	#2
Sublovin 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Watch: Lots Posts: 4,595	Wow...really? You really want to buy a new case? My 16570 is polished, dinged and still looks great. Tough to tell from that picture but I wouldn't worry about it...just enjoy the watch. It is a rugged explorers watch after all, not a dress watch

2 February 2016, 10:24 PM	#4
lamadoo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Sydney Posts: 61	Only 1k 'ish usd for a new case? Its noticeable when I run my fingers over the bracelet and lug so photos are not a good judge. im OCD i need it fixed Its almost impossible to notice but once u know its there its there

2 February 2016, 10:44 PM	#5
Jim Smyth Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Jim Smyth Location: Florida Watch: DD Posts: 1,842	If your OCD I would have just bought a new watch then. Odds of being happy with any used watch isnt good imo. Actually it doesn't look bad to me. Yes over polished but still looks very nice. I would enjoy it for a while and then trade it in for a new watch so you dont have to go through it again.

2 February 2016, 10:41 PM	#7
Sublovin 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Watch: Lots Posts: 4,595	When you get a new one, can you send me the old one? It's probably in better shape than mine! Ha!

2 February 2016, 11:04 PM	#8
airchitect "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: KY Watch: A few..... Posts: 3,796	The value of your watch with an original polished case should still be greater than a service case. Don't do it.

2 February 2016, 11:05 PM	#9
itsmekevin "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 125	I would sell it as is, then purchase a new one. Might be a better route.

2 February 2016, 11:14 PM	#10
southcarolina1801 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Peach State Posts: 735	I'd flip it and buy another.

2 February 2016, 11:22 PM	#11
Hpozzuoli Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Henry Location: Rhode Island Watch: Rolex Posts: 990	I saw an empty datejust ss case on eBay a few days ago. I believe the BIN was $2k. Figures I can't find the dam listing now.

2 February 2016, 11:24 PM	#12
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Flip and replace

3 February 2016, 12:02 AM	#14
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	Flip it. RSC won't replace a case unless it is seriously trashed.

3 February 2016, 12:18 AM	#15
WAK4 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Bill Location: NJ Watch: Always changing Posts: 4,172	I'd be surprised if Rolex would replace the case without performing a full service, which I think is 750-800 USD now? Unless you can get a case on your own and have an independent swap it out, you're starting close to 1k before the cost of the case comes into play. How are you about value retention? I believe a new case means a new serial #...may not go over well with buyers in the future if you think you'll sell. As the others said, if it's that big of a deal, flip and replace. Or live with it. Looks fine to me.

3 February 2016, 01:08 AM	#16
Fleetlord 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 6,023	1) Sell the Explorer II immediately. Don't put another penny into it. Not .01. 2) DO NOT buy another ROLEX yet. You should not have bought this one in the first place, which tells me you aren't knowledgeable yet. 3) Research, research, research...especially if you are buying a preowned reference. 4) Best thing really is buy a BRAND NEW Rolex from an AD....but that ref EXP II is not available at AD anymore, so if you really want that one...do the research.

3 February 2016, 01:19 AM	#19
Thailawson "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: South Posts: 187	SMH...watch is trashed. Please ship to my house.

3 February 2016, 01:45 AM	#21
brgsstm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Cheshire, UK Watch: 16570 Polar Posts: 26	That's a holes case.....?

3 February 2016, 01:58 AM	#22
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	What are you seeing that I am not? Just wear the watch.

3 February 2016, 02:11 AM	#23
HERITAGE82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,438	There is nothing wrong with the case __________________ - Rolex Explorer - 214270 - Tudor Black Bay - 79230B - Tudor Chronograph - 79270P - Breitling Chronomat - 10th Anniv. - Huguenin Freres Speedmaster Prototype

3 February 2016, 02:14 AM	#24
antbkny "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Anthony Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Dblue Posts: 6,723	flip it and buy another. why bother with a watch that annoys you?

3 February 2016, 03:00 AM	#25
Tvall13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: US Watch: Rolex Datejust II Posts: 370	I'm gonna be honest, I can't even really tell what the problem is?

3 February 2016, 04:16 AM	#28
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	Relax...enjoy your watch. Don't overthink it.

3 February 2016, 04:59 AM	#29
Sublover2166 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: John Location: Manassas,Virginia Watch: Ol'Bluesy & Hulk Posts: 2,871	OP if you have serious OCD this hobby may not be very enjoyable for you. If the watch bothers you that much, as been said time to let it go and buy something new.

3 February 2016, 05:02 AM	#30
sickened1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: SoCal Watch: ugiveiswatchuget Posts: 9,054	Also don't get a loupe. It may drive you nuts when you see all the micro scratches.

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