Deepsea or Deep Blue?

[sg719]

I want one of these to be my next. I can't find a deep blue in my area to see one in person. Is the premium on the blue worth it? Any input is appreciated!


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[Daytona88]

Deep Blue is beautiful but you can pick up a nice preowned black dial for $8k. Hard for me to justify the price differential

[speedmaster73]

not worth it imho

furthermore. James Cameron actually wore the 'black' dial during his special dive to the mariana trench....

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

not worth it imho

furthermore. James Cameron actually wore the 'black' dial during his special dive to the mariana trench....

Quite right.

However, the D-Blue is a dial variant of the same model watch that JC wore during the dive.
It's produced to commemorate the deepest solo dive in history.
No claims have ever been made about the D-Blue dial variation being worn during the dive by anyone or organization.

Given the above, It actually doesn't matter what variant was worn during the dive.

Not taking into consideration it's inherent beauty and uniqueness of the colour transition, it has a different personality in different lighting conditions which is a delight to behold.
The major factor is the D-Blue is hard to get anywhere at the small premium of the RRP.
Due to low supply levels it's exclusive unless one is prepared to pay a healthy premium in the grey market. In which case one could probably acquire one within a week depending upon the market.

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Quite right.

However, the D-Blue is a dial variant of the same model watch that JC wore during the dive.
It's produced to commemorate the deepest solo dive in history.
No claims have ever been made about the D-Blue dial variation being worn during the dive by anyone or organization.

Given the above, It actually doesn't matter what variant was worn during the dive.

Not taking into consideration it's inherent beauty and uniqueness of the colour transition, it has a different personality in different lighting conditions which is a delight to behold.
The major factor is the D-Blue is hard to get anywhere at the small premium of the RRP.
Due to low supply levels it's exclusive unless one is prepared to pay a healthy premium in the grey market. In which case one could probably acquire one within a week depending upon the market.

i disagree....it does matter what watch james cameron wore.....this is nothing more than a DSSD with a different dial....i don't mind the difference in msrp from black to blue but i can't help but think all those that paid an EXTRA premium from grey dealers or resellers are going to get burned in the long run. Sooner or later they will begin to ship more to ad's and they will be as hard to get as the a 11610LV or BLNR...and they are not hard to get anymore.....rolex can 'market/ this all they want as a james cameron commerative watch but its a flat out lie and historically i would rather own the 'actual' watch worn on the dive.....but than agin I'm a stickler for the facts....

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

i disagree....it does matter what watch james cameron wore.....this is nothing more than a DSSD with a different dial....i don't mind the difference in msrp from black to blue but i can't help but think all those that paid an EXTRA premium from grey dealers or resellers are going to get burned in the long run. Sooner or later they will begin to ship more to ad's and they will be as hard to get as the a 11610LV or BLNR...and they are not hard to get anymore.....rolex can 'market/ this all they want as a james cameron commerative watch but its a flat out lie and historically i would rather own the 'actual' watch worn on the dive.....but than agin I'm a stickler for the facts....

I don't understand where the lie is?
And what is the lie?
Who's lying?
Quite frankly I'm rather confused now

Besides, I'm not so sure that JC will be selling his personal watch any time soon so you'll be waiting for a long time to pick it up.
How much do you think it's worth as it currently stands?

[eonflux]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

i disagree....it does matter what watch james cameron wore.....this is nothing more than a DSSD with a different dial....i don't mind the difference in msrp from black to blue but i can't help but think all those that paid an EXTRA premium from grey dealers or resellers are going to get burned in the long run. Sooner or later they will begin to ship more to ad's and they will be as hard to get as the a 11610LV or BLNR...and they are not hard to get anymore.....rolex can 'market/ this all they want as a james cameron commerative watch but its a flat out lie and historically i would rather own the 'actual' watch worn on the dive.....but than agin I'm a stickler for the facts....

Ironically, you argue that the D-Blue is of no significance because it wasn't the actual watch worn by Cameron on the dive because the dial is different since he was wearing a black DSSD.
But yet try to make the point that paying more for a dial variation is silly because it's of no significance.

So which is it, does a dial variation matter or not?
If not, then a D-Blue is the same as a black DSSD, countering the first point.
If so, then it's worth the price difference given the state of the market today.

What about Speedmasters?
Unless one is an astronaut and wore his/her Speedster into space, then that particular Speedmaster has nothing to do with the moon, even if he/she has the "original" black dial version.

As far as waiting for D-Blue prices to come down, as they have with the LV and BLNR, what's missing is the value of having the watch on one's wrist at the present.
The time element may be more valuable than dollars.
I've thoroughly enjoyed wearing my D-Blue since last summer.
If I had waited until now to buy one, the price would be the same, and I would have missed all the joy of wearing it since last year.
And I wouldn't be enjoying it today on this really nice day in SF if I was still waiting for prices to come down.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

i disagree....it does matter what watch james cameron wore.....this is nothing more than a DSSD with a different dial....i don't mind the difference in msrp from black to blue but i can't help but think all those that paid an EXTRA premium from grey dealers or resellers are going to get burned in the long run. Sooner or later they will begin to ship more to ad's and they will be as hard to get as the a 11610LV or BLNR...and they are not hard to get anymore.....rolex can 'market/ this all they want as a james cameron commerative watch but its a flat out lie and historically i would rather own the 'actual' watch worn on the dive.....but than agin I'm a stickler for the facts....

Since you are a stickler for facts as you say please tell me how you know sooner or later they will ship more to AD's? The fact is that it is an allocation piece and has been since day one from Rolex. The fact is large AD's get one piece per 6 months or 2 per year. Small AD's are lucky to see one over a few years. So regardless of whether you see value in the dial or not that doesn't change the facts. The fact is it is a fantastic looking watch to those who own it. As someone who has owned more rare vintage Rolex over the last 25 plus years than most one thing I can tell you is dial differences have always made differences in demand thoughout Rolex history. I can give many examples but don't need to as most who know me here already know. So while you can have your opinion I strongly disagree with you and history is on my side.

[adawil2002]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Due to low supply levels it's exclusive unless one is prepared to pay a healthy premium in the grey market. In which case one could probably acquire one within a week depending upon the market.

The grey market prices I've seen are in line or higher than what I paid at my AD.

[Stuntpilot]

Originally Posted by Daytona88

Deep Blue is beautiful but you can pick up a nice preowned black dial for $8k. Hard for me to justify the price differential

I agree

[lmlinfante]

Huge difference between the two

[marselluswallace]

I love the blue and understand its rarity/more collectable/worth more in the future etc but for me the black dial will have more long term appeal so that is the one I have recently ended up buying.

[maton12]

The price premium is incredible

Will supply ever catch up? Or is this what Rolex does, such as with the BLNR, limits supply to some models to make them desirable

And I've seen a used one, they're beautiful, but was around $US2,500 premium on a new one (that you can't buy anyway) here in Australia

[WJGESQ]

It's gotta be blue these days.

[Chadridv]

if you can afford it i'd go blue. Either way you can't lose. Both are awesome!

[masyv6]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

if you can afford it i'd go blue. Either way you can't lose. Both are awesome!

[Memphis]

Blue

[antbkny]

Can't go wrong either way

[adawil2002]

D-Blue is amazing and worth it. Pictures do not do it justice. Bought mine in December 2015.

[albmich]

There was an identical thread on this a couple months ago before I got my deep
Blue. The overwhelming majority of people here will say if you have the extra money for the blue, get it. That's what I did and I'm very proud to wear the watch, it's awesome. In most lighting it's a black dial then the blue comes out in higher light conditions

[Spartacus]

I think the colors are worth it, especially if it will be the fun, summer piece.

[DCheeta]

D-Blue is amazing, but so is the black dial. I still can't decide which I like more, but I lean towards the classic black.

[errol0_7]

Originally Posted by DCheeta

D-Blue is amazing, but so is the black dial. I still can't decide which I like more, but I lean towards the classic black.

I think all black for me - not fond of the green script

[sg719]

Awesome. Thanks guys. My initial lust was over the blue. I bought my blnr without seeing one. Guess I'll do the same for this one too!


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[SeattlePNWguy]

Here's mine...

[Sumitaro]

Im Blue da ba dee da ba die!


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[SeattlePNWguy]

Both beautiful watches... I've got the blue and my brother bought the black. I love the additional flair that the blue color adds to the watch. I have noticed that the black version looks sharper in poor lighting than the blue version does. The blue almost looks like a faded black (still nice), but not the same kind of clarity as the original all black DSSD.

[JUSTIFIED]

Blue is pricey, but it is beautiful!

[dogpawss]

I had the black then bought the blue in January and I think it's worth. Small difference in detail makes totally different and this is true for other Rolex vintage models.

BTW the attached pic was taken this morning!

[albmich]

Originally Posted by dogpawss

I had the black then bought the blue in January and I think it's worth. Small difference in detail makes totally different and this is true for other Rolex vintage models.

BTW the attached pic was taken this morning!

Glad to see some people
Wearing it with a suit/sportscoat!