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Zweig · 4 May 2016, 07:09 AM

I have a problem: i own a blue Tudor Sub ref. 79090 and i'm tempted to trade it for a Tudor Big Block ref. 79170. Condition will dictate the color of the dial.

In terms of investment, i doubt anything will ever beat the word "Submariner" but i have the feeling that the BB is more watch for the money. Valjoux 7750, 12hr rotating bezel, unique fat Oyster case.

My question is: would you do this trade ?

(sorry, "get both" is not an option. I'm broke)

This,

For this ?

(pic: Romain Réa)

harry in montreal · 4 May 2016, 07:34 AM

No way! Your sub is a jewel. Look on eBay at the number of blue subs and then the slew of Tudor chronos. Blue subs are keepers

theflywrist · 4 May 2016, 08:43 AM

It's a BLUE Sub man.
Get the point?

I would definitely hang on to the sub if I were you.
If you've grown out of love with it though, then by all means..

HERITAGE82 · 4 May 2016, 08:56 AM

First off you have great taste in watches! I also have a 16710, 79090 (black) & a Tudor chronograph 79270.

So I totally know where you are coming from wanting the Big Block (I look at them often still) since it has a lot of appeal and wrist presence. However on on the other hand the blue submariner is a different style all together and it's a Sub.

I personally wouldn't get rid of the Tudor Submariner for the big block because I feel that the novelty of the big block could wear, and you'll want the Sub again. I know you said it wasn't possible, but I truly feel the big block is a great watch in a collection, but a collection without a submariner is lacking.

Sorry I wasn't much help, but keep the sub it a classic.

linesiders · 4 May 2016, 09:09 AM

I lean towards keeping the sub. Down the road both will certainly be available

SAAS · 4 May 2016, 10:00 AM

own both 79090 is more versatile in the long run. The big block is a fun piece but its big for lack of a better word. Can't hurt to try it out if you are itchy they are close to even money though the big blocks take a longer to sell if you decide to flip back into a 79090.

Daytona88 · 4 May 2016, 10:15 AM

I prefer the sub by a mile!

eco8gator · 4 May 2016, 11:10 AM

Blue sub...the only move id make at this point is to get into a Black Snowflake (or blue for a bit more).

Qinhan · 4 May 2016, 11:21 AM

79090 for me. Firstly, it's blue. Secondly, it has a slimmer case profile. I love pictures of the Big Block but, when on the wrist, found it to be too large for me.

iclick · 4 May 2016, 12:26 PM

I have a 79090 black Sub and two BBs, a 79180 and a 79170, so I feel qualified to pipe in here. For the record, I like all three and rotate them equally at about one-month intervals. At each rotation I don't feel bad that one is going back in the safe and another on my wrist, as I like all of them and look forward to the next one in line. The Tudors are the only watches in my regular rotation.

There's no disputing the beauty and charisma of the BBs, but the Blue Sub has several things going for it:

You own it and it's a known entity.
It is gorgeous.
It is a bit lighter and more comfortable to wear.
It is more ergonomic, being much easier to read compared to the busy dial on the BB. On the chrono the hands tend to blend with the dial and often get lost among the three sub-dials.

I say keep the Sub.

gtnator · 4 May 2016, 02:05 PM

Keep the blue Sub. Don't think about it any more.

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Zweig · 4 May 2016, 08:09 PM

Thank you very much for your comments guys.
Seeing too many pics of Big blocks made my head spin, i needed to hear the voice of reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HERITAGE82

First off you have great taste in watches!

Thank you and i return the compliment.
I heard 1982 was a great year !

Quote:

Originally Posted by iclick

I have a 79090 black Sub and two BBs, a 79180 and a 79170, so I feel qualified to pipe in here. For the record, I like all three and rotate them equally at about one-month intervals. At each rotation I don't feel bad that one is going back in the safe and another on my wrist, as I like all of them and look forward to the next one in line. The Tudors are the only watches in my regular rotation.

There's no disputing the beauty and charisma of the BBs, but the Blue Sub has several things going for it:

You own it and it's a known entity.
It is gorgeous.
It is a bit lighter and more comfortable to wear.
It is more ergonomic, being much easier to read compared to the busy dial on the BB. On the chrono the hands tend to blend with the dial and often get lost among the three sub-dials.

I say keep the Sub.

Thank you for sharing your experience. I didn't want to buy more watches (3 is enough for me) but i have no other choice than to keep the noble Sub and add a BB later. I think the Tudor BB is one of the greatest Tudors ever made.
I guess "only the dead have seen the end of this hobby".
Thanks !

ar.parask13 · 4 May 2016, 08:19 PM

I personally love chronographs and I always thought they are more bang for the buck!
But looking at the worldwide trends at the moment the sub seems to be hitting new highs every single day.
So investment wise keeping the sub would be the most prudent choice!

motoikkyu · 5 May 2016, 05:30 AM

That's an awesome reverse panda with a moving bezel! I think I would probably make the trade for that piece. I upgraded to a blue snowflake because that was the iconic Tudor for me.

harry in montreal · 5 May 2016, 05:56 AM

Have you ever tried on a 7020/0 which is the day date and the steel bezel? It is very heavy!

Porter · 5 May 2016, 06:35 AM

Keep the sub! Take the big block when possible!

Zweig · 5 May 2016, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motoikkyu

I upgraded to a blue snowflake because that was the iconic Tudor for me.

That's a good point. A blue 79090 will always live in the shadows of the blue snowflake or the blue lollipop in terms of collectability.

Quote:

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

Have you ever tried on a 7020/0 which is the day date and the steel bezel? It is very heavy!

No, but they are outstanding watches. I was looking for one (smooth bezel) but i found a 94510 with blue sunburst dial and engine turned bezel which is my daily wearer now.

TBH, i haven't made up my mind yet.
Submariners tend to bore me (a lot) after a while.
I traded my first Rolex, a 14060M (Z) for a 16710 (P) a year ago and i couldn't be happier. Miss it occasionally when i see a nice pic of it but that's all. I know i made the right choice.
Also, i would like to diversify the calibers of my watches. I already have an ETA 2824 (Marathon SAR) and ETA 2834 (94510). I had a Lemania 5100 (Sinn EZM-1) and now the Valjoux 7750 intrigues me a lot...

motoikkyu · 5 May 2016, 10:58 AM

The Valjoux 7750 is a real workhorse of a movement. I owned several in different makes before I really fell in love with the El Primero and the Caliber 12. I can remember buying a new-old-stock Bulova 7750 for less than $300 USD, if you can believe that.

alwayshere · 5 May 2016, 12:55 PM

Going to go against the grain here.

Ref 79090 isn't near the collectibility of the 9411 / 7016 - in other words, letting go of the 79090 shouldn't be considered as selling a heirloom. Go with your gut, if you like the BB, just get it.

If you were holding on to a 9411 / 7016, I would think twice about letting it go.

Just my 2c

John in MA · 5 May 2016, 04:48 PM

I own a panda big block and a blue snowflake. Both have their unique characteristics.

While a 79090 is nice when compared to others it isn't the "real" Tudor sub. That belongs to the Snowflake from a collect-ability standpoint. There is a reason that 79090's are the most cost effective of the acrylic Tudor subs.

Would I trade a Snowflake for a Big Block? Absolutely not. Would I trade a 79090 for a Big Block? I'd seriously consider it.

Vincent65 · 25 August 2016, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John in MA

While a 79090 is nice when compared to others it isn't the "real" Tudor sub. That belongs to the Snowflake from a collect-ability standpoint. There is a reason that 79090's are the most cost effective of the acrylic Tudor subs.

Would I trade a Snowflake for a Big Block? Absolutely not. Would I trade a 79090 for a Big Block? I'd seriously consider it.

x2

Dan Pierce · 25 August 2016, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John in MA

I own a panda big block and a blue snowflake. Both have their unique characteristics.

While a 79090 is nice when compared to others it isn't the "real" Tudor sub. That belongs to the Snowflake from a collect-ability standpoint. There is a reason that 79090's are the most cost effective of the acrylic Tudor subs.

Would I trade a Snowflake for a Big Block? Absolutely not. Would I trade a 79090 for a Big Block? I'd seriously consider it.

X3. The Big Block just has more features I often use. YMMV.
dP

1William · 5 May 2016, 08:57 PM

I prefer the sub.

nick c · 5 May 2016, 09:39 PM

Keep the blue submariner

azguy · 5 May 2016, 11:02 PM

Blue subs are rare and sort of hard to come buy, BB are always out there

kixo · 25 August 2016, 05:33 PM

I have a similar pair: a 79050 blue with sapphire crystal and double-signed Rolex, and a 79260P, the more recent and smaller footprint chrono.

I think the blue Tudor Subs will be iconic watches in the years ahead. I tend to wear the Sub, as someone mentioned earlier, it is much easier to read.

How often will you use the chrono features? Most timing functions can be accomplished with the Sub's rotating bezel.

My vote is to keep the Sub. Perhaps updating it with a SS bracelet?

JimSnyder · 25 August 2016, 10:04 PM

It's better to have your Sub, then want your Sub. If you let it go you will want it back!

Dr.Smellody · 25 August 2016, 11:46 PM

Keep the sub, sell a kidney to buy the chrono.

lhanddds · 26 August 2016, 05:40 AM

Get the big block

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BNA/LION · 26 August 2016, 08:26 AM

Trade for the big block and save for a Rolex Sub.

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4 May 2016, 07:09 AM	#1
Zweig "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Bo Location: Paris Watch: 16710, 6694 Posts: 128	Tudor Sub blue or Tudor Big Block ? I have a problem: i own a blue Tudor Sub ref. 79090 and i'm tempted to trade it for a Tudor Big Block ref. 79170. Condition will dictate the color of the dial. In terms of investment, i doubt anything will ever beat the word "Submariner" but i have the feeling that the BB is more watch for the money. Valjoux 7750, 12hr rotating bezel, unique fat Oyster case. My question is: would you do this trade ? (sorry, "get both" is not an option. I'm broke) This, For this ? (pic: Romain Réa)

4 May 2016, 08:56 AM	#4
HERITAGE82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,435	First off you have great taste in watches! I also have a 16710, 79090 (black) & a Tudor chronograph 79270. So I totally know where you are coming from wanting the Big Block (I look at them often still) since it has a lot of appeal and wrist presence. However on on the other hand the blue submariner is a different style all together and it's a Sub. I personally wouldn't get rid of the Tudor Submariner for the big block because I feel that the novelty of the big block could wear, and you'll want the Sub again. I know you said it wasn't possible, but I truly feel the big block is a great watch in a collection, but a collection without a submariner is lacking. Sorry I wasn't much help, but keep the sub it a classic. __________________ - Rolex Explorer - 214270 - Tudor Black Bay - 79230B - Tudor Chronograph - 79270P - Breitling Chronomat - 10th Anniv. - Huguenin Freres Speedmaster Prototype

4 May 2016, 09:09 AM	#5
linesiders 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,501	I lean towards keeping the sub. Down the road both will certainly be available __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

4 May 2016, 12:26 PM	#10
iclick "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 813	I have a 79090 black Sub and two BBs, a 79180 and a 79170, so I feel qualified to pipe in here. For the record, I like all three and rotate them equally at about one-month intervals. At each rotation I don't feel bad that one is going back in the safe and another on my wrist, as I like all of them and look forward to the next one in line. The Tudors are the only watches in my regular rotation. There's no disputing the beauty and charisma of the BBs, but the Blue Sub has several things going for it: You own it and it's a known entity. It is gorgeous. It is a bit lighter and more comfortable to wear. It is more ergonomic, being much easier to read compared to the busy dial on the BB. On the chrono the hands tend to blend with the dial and often get lost among the three sub-dials. I say keep the Sub. __________________ GMT 1675 SS (1969) Tudor Big Block Chrono 79170 white-dial panda (~1993) Tudor Big Block Chrono 79180 black-dial panda (~1993) Tudor Sub 79090 (1992)

4 May 2016, 07:34 AM	#2
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	No way! Your sub is a jewel. Look on eBay at the number of blue subs and then the slew of Tudor chronos. Blue subs are keepers

4 May 2016, 08:43 AM	#3
theflywrist "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 1,993	It's a BLUE Sub man. Get the point? I would definitely hang on to the sub if I were you. If you've grown out of love with it though, then by all means..

4 May 2016, 10:00 AM	#6
SAAS "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 548	own both 79090 is more versatile in the long run. The big block is a fun piece but its big for lack of a better word. Can't hurt to try it out if you are itchy they are close to even money though the big blocks take a longer to sell if you decide to flip back into a 79090.

4 May 2016, 10:15 AM	#7
Daytona88 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5712 Posts: 2,618	I prefer the sub by a mile!

4 May 2016, 11:10 AM	#8
eco8gator "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Florida Watch: 5060/a Posts: 1,119	Blue sub...the only move id make at this point is to get into a Black Snowflake (or blue for a bit more).

4 May 2016, 11:21 AM	#9
Qinhan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 632	79090 for me. Firstly, it's blue. Secondly, it has a slimmer case profile. I love pictures of the Big Block but, when on the wrist, found it to be too large for me.

4 May 2016, 02:05 PM	#11
gtnator 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Watch: DSSD, SD43, Pepsi, Posts: 2,084	Keep the blue Sub. Don't think about it any more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

4 May 2016, 08:19 PM	#13
ar.parask13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Aris Location: London, UK Posts: 191	I personally love chronographs and I always thought they are more bang for the buck! But looking at the worldwide trends at the moment the sub seems to be hitting new highs every single day. So investment wise keeping the sub would be the most prudent choice!

5 May 2016, 05:30 AM	#14
motoikkyu 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: PRJ Posts: 1,732	That's an awesome reverse panda with a moving bezel! I think I would probably make the trade for that piece. I upgraded to a blue snowflake because that was the iconic Tudor for me. __________________ "Do you like Breitling?" "I don't know, really, I've never been Breitled"

5 May 2016, 05:56 AM	#15
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Have you ever tried on a 7020/0 which is the day date and the steel bezel? It is very heavy!

5 May 2016, 06:35 AM	#16
Porter "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Carlos Location: Eivissa Watch: Rolex, Tudor.... Posts: 1,635	Keep the sub! Take the big block when possible!

5 May 2016, 10:58 AM	#18
motoikkyu 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: PRJ Posts: 1,732	The Valjoux 7750 is a real workhorse of a movement. I owned several in different makes before I really fell in love with the El Primero and the Caliber 12. I can remember buying a new-old-stock Bulova 7750 for less than $300 USD, if you can believe that. __________________ "Do you like Breitling?" "I don't know, really, I've never been Breitled"

5 May 2016, 12:55 PM	#19
alwayshere "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 1,559	Going to go against the grain here. Ref 79090 isn't near the collectibility of the 9411 / 7016 - in other words, letting go of the 79090 shouldn't be considered as selling a heirloom. Go with your gut, if you like the BB, just get it. If you were holding on to a 9411 / 7016, I would think twice about letting it go. Just my 2c

5 May 2016, 04:48 PM	#20
John in MA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 862	I own a panda big block and a blue snowflake. Both have their unique characteristics. While a 79090 is nice when compared to others it isn't the "real" Tudor sub. That belongs to the Snowflake from a collect-ability standpoint. There is a reason that 79090's are the most cost effective of the acrylic Tudor subs. Would I trade a Snowflake for a Big Block? Absolutely not. Would I trade a 79090 for a Big Block? I'd seriously consider it. __________________ Formerly John in SC and John in TN How To: Remove a Tudor Pelagos Endlink in 60 Seconds or Less

5 May 2016, 08:57 PM	#23
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,676	I prefer the sub.

5 May 2016, 09:39 PM	#24
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Keep the blue submariner

5 May 2016, 11:02 PM	#25
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Blue subs are rare and sort of hard to come buy, BB are always out there

25 August 2016, 05:33 PM	#26
kixo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: California Posts: 12	I have a similar pair: a 79050 blue with sapphire crystal and double-signed Rolex, and a 79260P, the more recent and smaller footprint chrono. I think the blue Tudor Subs will be iconic watches in the years ahead. I tend to wear the Sub, as someone mentioned earlier, it is much easier to read. How often will you use the chrono features? Most timing functions can be accomplished with the Sub's rotating bezel. My vote is to keep the Sub. Perhaps updating it with a SS bracelet?

25 August 2016, 10:04 PM	#27
JimSnyder "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Jim Snyder Location: Ohio Watch: Ask me later..... Posts: 7,725	It's better to have your Sub, then want your Sub. If you let it go you will want it back! __________________ "You ain't lived, 'til you've had your tires rotated by a red-headed women."

25 August 2016, 11:46 PM	#28
Dr.Smellody "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 5,397	Keep the sub, sell a kidney to buy the chrono.

26 August 2016, 05:40 AM	#29
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	Get the big block Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

26 August 2016, 08:26 AM	#30
BNA/LION 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,627	Trade for the big block and save for a Rolex Sub. __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

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