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sjstrm · 22 May 2016, 05:35 AM

Hello Guys!

Dream cam true yesterday and my first AP ROO RC landed.
Its a H-series, comes with box and certificate.
I had the deal done at my local watchmaker (omega and breitling AD).

I paid around 70 USD to have it verified at the store but since they are not AP related and this is my first AP id love to have some feedback from you guys...
With all AAA fakes and me being VERY suspicious about everything (paranoid) id just want some pro to confirm all looks OK.

All numbers are matching the certificate and case.

Its in great shape despite the dent on the rubber bezel, this was reflected in the price :)

sjstrm · 22 May 2016, 06:26 AM

Link to the AD in Italy where its sold originally:
http://www.bortolingioielli.it/

bayerische · 22 May 2016, 09:42 AM

Umm. You bezel looks beyond strange. Looks like someone glued rubber on it themselves.

What on earth has happened to this watch?

Have you googled 25940SK, to see what the with should look like?

turillo · 22 May 2016, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

Umm. You bezel looks beyond strange. Looks like someone glued rubber on it themselves.

What on earth has happened to this watch?

Have you googled 25940SK, to see what the with should look like?

I'd have to agree. The watch looks conspicuous. A lot of character missing from the pictures you posted.

I'd tread carefully. Maybe call AP and have them verify the serial number?

Good luck.

Narbeh · 22 May 2016, 09:52 AM

Bezel and screws look way off to me but I'm no expert

sssteel · 22 May 2016, 10:06 AM

Datewheel position & dial are 100% Gen!
What did the movement look like?? Thats the ultimate test! Have a photo of it?
H serial is correct for new style (called 2012+) Black RC dial.
With the papers and matching serials, I'd suspect it all to be gen. I'd almost be willing to bet on that!

That said, the bezel does look quite strange to say the least! It looks almost "rounded", lol, in the photos?! At the very least the bezel is quite used/worn and I'd replace it.

sjstrm · 22 May 2016, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sssteel

Datewheel position & dial are 100% Gen!
What did the movement look like?? Thats the ultimate test! Have a photo of it?
H serial is correct for new style (called 2012+) Black RC dial.
With the papers and matching serials, I'd suspect it all to be gen. I'd almost be willing to bet on that!

That said, the bezel does look quite strange to say the least! It looks almost "rounded", lol, in the photos?! At the very least the bezel is quite used/worn and I'd replace it.

I took of the backcase but then there where the anit-magnetic case with the smallest screws i ever seen, so i didnt make it the all way into the heart...

I have sent the pictures to another watchmaker that also think its GEN but I will have it checked with AP-dealer for sure. Everything else feels and looks great just that damn rubber-bezel.. I hope its just really worn out and needs a change.

AK797 · 22 May 2016, 10:24 AM

Watch looks real but as said the bezel looks like it was ripped off and then put back over the screws. Hope you got a really great price.

masterserg · 22 May 2016, 10:57 AM

Back screws look a bit mangled as well. Hope you got a good price... Might be a hefty bill to service/repair.

SamGMT · 22 May 2016, 01:30 PM

The rubber bezel and screws looks strange to me. The rubberclad bezel should looks like this.

fonglik · 22 May 2016, 01:59 PM

Fake or not you really shouldn't buy a watch with this horrible bezel. Sorry to say that but clearly you didn't do your homework. I haven't seen a AP's bezel looks like yours in the picture, even a heavily beat up one.

sjstrm · 22 May 2016, 06:40 PM

Thanks for your input guys... Well next step is to visit AP-AD to get it verified Again.....
Maybe I jumped into this boat to quick without a second thought.
Before I bought it i checked how much a new bezel would cost and we came up with a price that was including this cost.

I also got a receipt from Copenhagen AP-AD "Klarlund" where the watch been for a new strap etc.
Also on this reciept there are matching numbers with the case. I mean, all these papers and even my own Omega/Breitling AD said it was OK. i went on with the deal.
I hope it wont be a terrible misstake but I do agree that the bezel looks weiiiiird!

bayerische · 22 May 2016, 11:32 PM

You took the caseback off yourself?

sjstrm · 22 May 2016, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

You took the caseback off yourself?

Me in a nutshell, when i got worried i just wanted to pop of the backcase and expose the movement...
Wasnt that hard and i will have it brought to ap-ad this week.

SamGMT · 22 May 2016, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjstrm

Me in a nutshell, when i got worried i just wanted to pop of the backcase and expose the movement...
Wasnt that hard and i will have it brought to ap-ad this week.

Did you take any pictures during the process?

sjstrm · 22 May 2016, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamGMT

Did you take any pictures during the process?

No but i can recall some details.
There was obvisouly the rubber between the backcase and the watchcase. Also "audemars piguet" was carved? (Right word?) on the inside of the backcase.
Small text on the bottom, dont really remember what it said..

sssteel · 23 May 2016, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjstrm

No but i can recall some details.
There was obvisouly the rubber between the backcase and the watchcase. Also "audemars piguet" was carved? (Right word?) on the inside of the backcase.
Small text on the bottom, dont really remember what it said..

The movement is what's important - not engravings on inside of caseback!
Take antimagnetic cover off and post a photo. Not a big deal - three screws I think.

bayerische · 23 May 2016, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjstrm

Me in a nutshell, when i got worried i just wanted to pop of the backcase and expose the movement...
Wasnt that hard and i will have it brought to ap-ad this week.

Well I'm sorry to say you managed to damage the screws, but hey it's your watch so...

sjstrm · 23 May 2016, 03:15 AM

Anyone with the exact same reference that can do me a favour?
How much does it weigh with the bracelet?

sssteel · 23 May 2016, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjstrm

Anyone with the exact same reference that can do me a favour?
How much does it weigh with the bracelet?

I would NOT rely on weight at all!
Also, Rubberclads look stupid on bracelet!!
That said, I assume you are referring to "bracelet" simply meaning the European term for ANY type of generic watch band/strap, correct?

Bobby69 · 23 May 2016, 02:29 AM

the bezel just doesn't seem right

masterserg · 23 May 2016, 02:37 AM

Read the sticky about pre owned AP. I would not tinker any further with this. Send it to AP for a proper overhaul and be ready for the bill (assuming all checks out).

sjstrm · 23 May 2016, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterserg

Read the sticky about pre owned AP. I would not tinker any further with this. Send it to AP for a proper overhaul and be ready for the bill (assuming all checks out).

Will do. Will update every step.
Thanks for input guys.

dera · 23 May 2016, 02:55 AM

LOL it looks like someone polished that bezel :)

Get ready for a 2-3k bill to put it right. You said it was reflected on the price though...

sjstrm · 23 May 2016, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dera

LOL it looks like someone polished that bezel :)

Get ready for a 2-3k bill to put it right. You said it was reflected on the price though...

I calculated on 1.5-2k for the bezel and included the cost in the price i paid.
Maybe its not enough, we will see...

dera · 23 May 2016, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjstrm

I calculated on 1.5-2k for the bezel and included the cost in the price i paid.
Maybe its not enough, we will see...

They'll also make you buy new case screws ($$$)

Bobby69 · 23 May 2016, 03:06 AM

If you don't mind me asking what did you give for the watch

sjstrm · 23 May 2016, 03:45 AM

I mean with the original ap rbber band with deployant clasp...

s14roller · 23 May 2016, 08:30 AM

Watch itself looks legit...why someone tinkered with the bezel screws and the bezel, no one knows. Then again, you were also talking apart the watch on your own, so someone previously must have been doing the same for some reason (maybe to try a bezel swap or something). I personally would not have bought it like this, but if it was a steel, say, <$8K, then sure, maybe I'd get it checked out, fixed, and call it a day.

s14roller · 23 May 2016, 08:31 AM

BTW - for someone who is paranoid and suspicious, why would you buy the watch first and then ask for opinions later?

22 May 2016, 05:35 AM	#1
sjstrm "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sweden Posts: 20	Help me verify my AP RC! Hello Guys! Dream cam true yesterday and my first AP ROO RC landed. Its a H-series, comes with box and certificate. I had the deal done at my local watchmaker (omega and breitling AD). I paid around 70 USD to have it verified at the store but since they are not AP related and this is my first AP id love to have some feedback from you guys... With all AAA fakes and me being VERY suspicious about everything (paranoid) id just want some pro to confirm all looks OK. All numbers are matching the certificate and case. Its in great shape despite the dent on the rubber bezel, this was reflected in the price :)

22 May 2016, 09:42 AM	#3
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Umm. You bezel looks beyond strange. Looks like someone glued rubber on it themselves. What on earth has happened to this watch? Have you googled 25940SK, to see what the with should look like? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

22 May 2016, 10:57 AM	#9
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Back screws look a bit mangled as well. Hope you got a good price... Might be a hefty bill to service/repair. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

22 May 2016, 11:32 PM	#13
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	You took the caseback off yourself? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

23 May 2016, 02:37 AM	#22
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Read the sticky about pre owned AP. I would not tinker any further with this. Send it to AP for a proper overhaul and be ready for the bill (assuming all checks out). __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

22 May 2016, 06:26 AM	#2
sjstrm "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sweden Posts: 20	Link to the AD in Italy where its sold originally: http://www.bortolingioielli.it/

22 May 2016, 09:52 AM	#5
Narbeh 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: USA Watch: AP Posts: 583	Bezel and screws look way off to me but I'm no expert

22 May 2016, 10:06 AM	#6
sssteel "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: US Posts: 499	Datewheel position & dial are 100% Gen! What did the movement look like?? Thats the ultimate test! Have a photo of it? H serial is correct for new style (called 2012+) Black RC dial. With the papers and matching serials, I'd suspect it all to be gen. I'd almost be willing to bet on that! That said, the bezel does look quite strange to say the least! It looks almost "rounded", lol, in the photos?! At the very least the bezel is quite used/worn and I'd replace it.

22 May 2016, 10:24 AM	#8
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Watch looks real but as said the bezel looks like it was ripped off and then put back over the screws. Hope you got a really great price.

22 May 2016, 01:30 PM	#10
SamGMT "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Singapore Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 1,689	The rubber bezel and screws looks strange to me. The rubberclad bezel should looks like this.

22 May 2016, 01:59 PM	#11
fonglik "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Li Location: Shenzhen Watch: AP Diver 15710 Posts: 41	Fake or not you really shouldn't buy a watch with this horrible bezel. Sorry to say that but clearly you didn't do your homework. I haven't seen a AP's bezel looks like yours in the picture, even a heavily beat up one.

22 May 2016, 06:40 PM	#12
sjstrm "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sweden Posts: 20	Thanks for your input guys... Well next step is to visit AP-AD to get it verified Again..... Maybe I jumped into this boat to quick without a second thought. Before I bought it i checked how much a new bezel would cost and we came up with a price that was including this cost. I also got a receipt from Copenhagen AP-AD "Klarlund" where the watch been for a new strap etc. Also on this reciept there are matching numbers with the case. I mean, all these papers and even my own Omega/Breitling AD said it was OK. i went on with the deal. I hope it wont be a terrible misstake but I do agree that the bezel looks weiiiiird!

23 May 2016, 03:15 AM	#19
sjstrm "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sweden Posts: 20	Anyone with the exact same reference that can do me a favour? How much does it weigh with the bracelet?

23 May 2016, 02:29 AM	#21
Bobby69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Uk Watch: Audemars piquet Posts: 34	the bezel just doesn't seem right

23 May 2016, 02:55 AM	#24
dera "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,372	LOL it looks like someone polished that bezel :) Get ready for a 2-3k bill to put it right. You said it was reflected on the price though...

23 May 2016, 03:06 AM	#27
Bobby69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Uk Watch: Audemars piquet Posts: 34	If you don't mind me asking what did you give for the watch

23 May 2016, 03:45 AM	#28
sjstrm "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sweden Posts: 20	I mean with the original ap rbber band with deployant clasp...

23 May 2016, 08:30 AM	#29
s14roller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,257	Watch itself looks legit...why someone tinkered with the bezel screws and the bezel, no one knows. Then again, you were also talking apart the watch on your own, so someone previously must have been doing the same for some reason (maybe to try a bezel swap or something). I personally would not have bought it like this, but if it was a steel, say, <$8K, then sure, maybe I'd get it checked out, fixed, and call it a day.

23 May 2016, 08:31 AM	#30
s14roller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,257	BTW - for someone who is paranoid and suspicious, why would you buy the watch first and then ask for opinions later?

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