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daytona1 · 4 August 2008, 05:24 AM

Hey guys maybe yall can help me. I brought my Daytona to a local jeweler downtown Miami in the seybold building. The watch needed to be shined up. After about a week I called and the guy told me that his watchmaker was out of town and he still had the watch. I picked up the watch and went home. When I started to look at the watch it just didnt look the same. The band was worn in places that I didnt remember. Listen I used to wash the watch at least twice a week and I konw my watch. I got my papers out and checked the numbers. The numbers matched but I had to remove a link from the band to get it to fit like I remember. So the question is WHAT SHOULD I DO? Thanks guys have a great day...

f16570 · 4 August 2008, 05:44 AM

The band has a model number and a serial number all it's own I believe.
If this is the case no worries in checking it out.

Mrdi · 4 August 2008, 05:54 AM

So
Is there an extra link on the band since you got it back?

SLS · 4 August 2008, 05:58 AM

You had to remove a link???

I would say you have a problem.

Is the date code on the clasp close to your serial #?
~Scott

daytona1 · 4 August 2008, 06:24 AM

I did have to remove a link. DATE CODE?????? Whats that?

steel4me · 4 August 2008, 06:29 AM

go with your gut feeling ... when something doesn't feel right and you can not logically eexplain the reasoning, usually something is wrong.... it is your gut instinct telling you something is wrong ... just feeling your own bracelet and watch creates this sensation in your mind .... when you touch something else, your senses know something is not right .....

So I think you are right that you have been screwed.....

daytona1 · 4 August 2008, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel4me

go with your gut feeling ... when something doesn't feel right and you can not logically eexplain the reasoning, usually something is wrong.... it is your gut instinct telling you something is wrong ... just feeling your own bracelet and watch creates this sensation in your mind .... when you touch something else, your senses know something is not right .....

So I think you are right that you have been screwed.....

I pretty much figured that out. But because there are no seriel numbers on the band I cant prove it. What are DATE CODES that were mentioned on the previous posts?
The clasp has in decending order
ROLEX
Geneva
Swiss Made
ROLEXSA(surrounded by a football shape)
Steelinox
MA9
78490

SLS · 4 August 2008, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daytona1

I pretty much figured that out. But because there are no seriel numbers on the band I cant prove it. What are DATE CODES that were mentioned on the previous posts?
The clasp has in decending order
ROLEX
Geneva
Swiss Made
ROLEXSA(surrounded by a football shape)
Steelinox
MA9
78490

The MA9 dates your watch to the 9th month of 2005, does that sound right?

2002 DT
2003 AD
2004 CL
2005 MA
2006 OP
2007 EO

Then the letter after it corresponds to the month it was made.

Silly question, do you know about the extension in the clasp? How many links were in the bracelet?

~Scott

DavoD · 4 August 2008, 06:39 AM

All real Rolex watches have serial number that match the date of manufacture. If they swap the link you have no way to proof it any way.They can also swap the internal parts and you will never find out.

Might be an idea to go to Rolex ASC instead of your local jeweler next time.

BigHat · 4 August 2008, 06:44 AM

If you had a remove a link.... AND it lacks or has marks you know are yours... I would confront the dealer.

Is it an SS Daytona? Doesn't make much sense swapping that out. I can see someone swapping out a dipped gold bracelet for a solid gold one. but SS...?

Weird situation to be sure.

daytona1 · 4 August 2008, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigHat

If you had a remove a link.... AND it lacks or has marks you know are yours... I would confront the dealer.

Is it an SS Daytona? Doesn't make much sense swapping that out. I can see someone swapping out a dipped gold bracelet for a solid gold one. but SS...?

Weird situation to be sure.

The band was in very good condition. It had never been polished. I am being told that the band and watch were made pretty much around the same time. So even if he did swap the band I could never find out.

daytona1 · 4 August 2008, 06:45 AM

date codes??????????????

SLS · 4 August 2008, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daytona1

date codes??????????????

Sent you a PM!
~Scott

Ed Rooney · 4 August 2008, 07:28 AM

Maybe he stuck you with one from a replica.

Take it to RSC and ask if it is genuine.

pwrslider · 5 August 2008, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Rooney

Maybe he stuck you with one from a replica.

Take it to RSC and ask if it is genuine.

Timber Loftis · 4 August 2008, 07:30 AM

I Miami, someone is suspected of thievery...

what a shock.

In that town, if it smells sketchy, it is.

daytona1 · 4 August 2008, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timber

I Miami, someone is suspected of thievery...

what a shock.

In that town, if it smells sketchy, it is.

You got it...Miami sucks.

daytona1 · 4 August 2008, 08:46 AM

These are the best pics that I can get at this time. The fine scratches on the band just happened. I was sticking my hand under my scooter trying to reach the choke on the carb. I just had to go scootin.....

Tools · 4 August 2008, 09:11 AM

I don't se anything wrong..

Your clasp date code is for Sept of 2005 which woud make the clasp a lat 2005/early 2006, so if the watch was purchased about then, everything seems OK. I figure your watch must be a couple of years old to want it polished up...

The bracelet end-links also have a date code stamped in the end (you need to take it off) which should be the same or in the same general time-frame.

I might ask the same question as others..........is your expansion link still set for tight, or is it unhooked and set for loose ?

daytona1 · 4 August 2008, 09:21 AM

yeah I wore it every day since may of 06. I work on cars and bikes as a hobby so the watch was pretty bad. Also I had my twentyth reunion this weekend so I wanted to get it fixed up for the weekend. The band does have date stamps in the shoulder. Everything pretty much matches up. In the end I think we found out that I'm just crazy....

BigHat · 4 August 2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daytona1

yeah I wore it every day since may of 06. I work on cars and bikes as a hobby so the watch was pretty bad. Also I had my twentyth reunion this weekend so I wanted to get it fixed up for the weekend. The band does have date stamps in the shoulder. Everything pretty much matches up. In the end I think we found out that I'm just crazy....

Well, for one, I'm glad you didn't get ripped-off.

daytona1 · 4 August 2008, 09:23 AM

I am aware of the expansion link I normally have it open.

Z-Sub · 4 August 2008, 04:41 PM

I think the bracelet is fine. After polishing it will look like new.!

Z-Sub · 4 August 2008, 04:51 PM

try:
http://www.oysterinfo.de/en/detailin...mern/index.php

Link was given to me by another nice TRF'er.

Thurnau · 4 August 2008, 12:03 PM

What do you mean by worn in places?

daytona1 · 5 August 2008, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thurnau

What do you mean by worn in places?

worn where the clasp touches the inside of the band

Thurnau · 4 August 2008, 12:07 PM

I took my watch once to a jewelry store that bragged how great they were ate polishing watches. This was a reputable store in the area(non AD). I got it back and they did an awful job. Brush marks on the polished spots, polished sections on the brushed parts, etc. As if they used masking tape and weren't all that careful with it. I made them redo it and the brush marks still did not look right. I took it to an AD and they brought it back to an original look again. Since then I quit caring how the SS looks. Little scratches don't quite bother me the same anymore.

BigHat · 4 August 2008, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thurnau

I took my watch once to a jewelry store that bragged how great they were ate polishing watches. This was a reputable store in the area(non AD). I got it back and they did an awful job. Brush marks on the polished spots, polished sections on the brushed parts, etc. As if they used masking tape and weren't all that careful with it. I made them redo it and the brush marks still did not look right. I took it to an AD and they brought it back to an original look again. Since then I quit caring how the SS looks. Little scratches don't quite bother me the same anymore.

Yet one more example that shows it's best to live with minor dings until you can get it to an RSC. Thanks for sharing.

aelvin · 4 August 2008, 12:15 PM

RSC or AD is the only place i will go for service, heard too many horror stories abt parts being swap out during services.

marshallr47 · 4 August 2008, 01:45 PM

Glad everything worked out for you. Enjoy your watch.

4 August 2008, 05:24 AM	#1
daytona1 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: miami Posts: 673	Think my jeweler swapped my band??? Hey guys maybe yall can help me. I brought my Daytona to a local jeweler downtown Miami in the seybold building. The watch needed to be shined up. After about a week I called and the guy told me that his watchmaker was out of town and he still had the watch. I picked up the watch and went home. When I started to look at the watch it just didnt look the same. The band was worn in places that I didnt remember. Listen I used to wash the watch at least twice a week and I konw my watch. I got my papers out and checked the numbers. The numbers matched but I had to remove a link from the band to get it to fit like I remember. So the question is WHAT SHOULD I DO? Thanks guys have a great day...

4 August 2008, 05:44 AM	#2
f16570 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: F Location: Scotland Watch: Exp II White Face Posts: 4,272	The band has a model number and a serial number all it's own I believe. If this is the case no worries in checking it out. __________________ Why have what's new when you have what's best. f

4 August 2008, 09:11 AM	#19
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	I don't se anything wrong.. Your clasp date code is for Sept of 2005 which woud make the clasp a lat 2005/early 2006, so if the watch was purchased about then, everything seems OK. I figure your watch must be a couple of years old to want it polished up... The bracelet end-links also have a date code stamped in the end (you need to take it off) which should be the same or in the same general time-frame. I might ask the same question as others..........is your expansion link still set for tight, or is it unhooked and set for loose ? __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

4 August 2008, 04:41 PM	#23
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	I think the bracelet is fine. After polishing it will look like new.! __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

4 August 2008, 04:51 PM	#24
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	For clasp information try: http://www.oysterinfo.de/en/detailin...mern/index.php Link was given to me by another nice TRF'er. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

4 August 2008, 05:54 AM	#3
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	So Is there an extra link on the band since you got it back?

4 August 2008, 05:58 AM	#4
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	You had to remove a link??? I would say you have a problem. Is the date code on the clasp close to your serial #? ~Scott

4 August 2008, 06:24 AM	#5
daytona1 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: miami Posts: 673	I did have to remove a link. DATE CODE?????? Whats that?

4 August 2008, 06:29 AM	#6
steel4me Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: SteelMan Location: Somewhere Posts: 719	go with your gut feeling ... when something doesn't feel right and you can not logically eexplain the reasoning, usually something is wrong.... it is your gut instinct telling you something is wrong ... just feeling your own bracelet and watch creates this sensation in your mind .... when you touch something else, your senses know something is not right ..... So I think you are right that you have been screwed.....

4 August 2008, 06:39 AM	#9
DavoD "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: David Location: Zurich, CH Watch: Rolex Sub LV Posts: 45	All real Rolex watches have serial number that match the date of manufacture. If they swap the link you have no way to proof it any way.They can also swap the internal parts and you will never find out. Might be an idea to go to Rolex ASC instead of your local jeweler next time.

4 August 2008, 06:44 AM	#10
BigHat Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Arlington, VA Watch: Lange One MP Posts: 4,043	If you had a remove a link.... AND it lacks or has marks you know are yours... I would confront the dealer. Is it an SS Daytona? Doesn't make much sense swapping that out. I can see someone swapping out a dipped gold bracelet for a solid gold one. but SS...? Weird situation to be sure.

4 August 2008, 06:45 AM	#12
daytona1 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: miami Posts: 673	date codes??????????????

4 August 2008, 07:28 AM	#14
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	Maybe he stuck you with one from a replica. Take it to RSC and ask if it is genuine.

4 August 2008, 07:30 AM	#16
Timber Loftis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Jon Location: Chicago Watch: IIc,DJII,P244,A1-Z Posts: 2,857	I Miami, someone is suspected of thievery... what a shock. In that town, if it smells sketchy, it is.

4 August 2008, 08:46 AM	#18
daytona1 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: miami Posts: 673	These are the best pics that I can get at this time. The fine scratches on the band just happened. I was sticking my hand under my scooter trying to reach the choke on the carb. I just had to go scootin.....

4 August 2008, 09:21 AM	#20
daytona1 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: miami Posts: 673	yeah I wore it every day since may of 06. I work on cars and bikes as a hobby so the watch was pretty bad. Also I had my twentyth reunion this weekend so I wanted to get it fixed up for the weekend. The band does have date stamps in the shoulder. Everything pretty much matches up. In the end I think we found out that I'm just crazy....

4 August 2008, 09:23 AM	#22
daytona1 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: miami Posts: 673	I am aware of the expansion link I normally have it open.

4 August 2008, 12:03 PM	#25
Thurnau "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Watch: DateJust Posts: 738	What do you mean by worn in places?

4 August 2008, 12:07 PM	#27
Thurnau "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Watch: DateJust Posts: 738	I took my watch once to a jewelry store that bragged how great they were ate polishing watches. This was a reputable store in the area(non AD). I got it back and they did an awful job. Brush marks on the polished spots, polished sections on the brushed parts, etc. As if they used masking tape and weren't all that careful with it. I made them redo it and the brush marks still did not look right. I took it to an AD and they brought it back to an original look again. Since then I quit caring how the SS looks. Little scratches don't quite bother me the same anymore.

4 August 2008, 12:15 PM	#29
aelvin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Aelvin Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 330	RSC or AD is the only place i will go for service, heard too many horror stories abt parts being swap out during services.

4 August 2008, 01:45 PM	#30
marshallr47 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Ron Location: Alabama Watch: Daytona,TT Sub,GMT Posts: 4,673	Glad everything worked out for you. Enjoy your watch. __________________ Ron

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