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AdamITR · 28 June 2016, 12:40 PM

Considering these two watches. Both are local to me.

1st.

A Yachtmaster S.S. Platinum 40mm, Circa ~ 2001ish (my guess) Price of $6200. No box or paperwork though. The watch is in perfect shape, fits my large wrist fine. Also comes with a watch winder.

2nd.

A S.S./Gold Submariner, Box & Paperwork included. Condition a little bit rougher shape than the Yachtmaster. Price of $6100.

Pics:

Both have been serviced.

Other watches in my collection are:

A Nomos Ahoi

A Grand Seiko Diver - Spring Drive

Thoughts?? Is one more “valuable” or a better investment?

-Adam

WatchinMD · 28 June 2016, 12:45 PM

The Blusey looks like it is in really tough shape. I'd pass.

Muzz · 28 June 2016, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchinMD

The Blusey looks like it is in really tough shape. I'd pass.

+1 Not one I would entertain either

Rolex addict · 28 June 2016, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchinMD

The Blusey looks like it is in really tough shape. I'd pass.

Yeah, someone beat the hell out of that watch.

Starwalker · 28 June 2016, 02:22 PM

....you should probably pass on both.

Trailblazer · 28 June 2016, 02:44 PM

Bluesy is too beaten for an entry into Pm

kromdom · 28 June 2016, 02:50 PM

which one sings to you? BUY THAT!

kilyung · 28 June 2016, 03:47 PM

16613 for me. Love YG.

DCheeta · 28 June 2016, 03:50 PM

That Sub looks beat to hell. I'd pass.

Canook · 28 June 2016, 04:07 PM

that bluesy has been polished within a inch of its life.....i reckon its 1mm smaller then when it was made lol

Sandblaster · 28 June 2016, 08:19 PM

For 6k you can get a used ceramic sub or gmt. 2001 YM? I just spent the same money and got a brand new in box Explorer two.

Keep shopping is my advice, find a better deal.

If you are so in love with the Yacht-Master spend $2,000 more and buy a brand new one with a Sunburst face. Or get seller to lower cost to 5k flat.

Racerdj · 28 June 2016, 08:21 PM

I would keep looking. The condition of the TT Blue Sub bothers me.

Gerry62 · 28 June 2016, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by racerdj

i would keep looking. The condition of the tt blue sub bothers me.

+1

TK-710 · 28 June 2016, 09:57 PM

It's funny I would love that TT if I had beaten the crap out of it. It would be my pride and joy. No way in hell I'd buy it from someone else like that.

GoingPlaces · 28 June 2016, 10:17 PM

Keep looking. Not worth it.

MCO1 · 28 June 2016, 10:22 PM

I had to make this choice, went with the Yachtmaster first and shortly traded it for the Sub. The plat bezel's easy scratching ability turned me off and I kept the Sub for several years.

That all being said this Sub is pretty rough looking, the YM sounds like a better buy. I would personally keep looking.

GB-man · 28 June 2016, 10:29 PM

Sub is too worn for my taste and I will never buy a modern piece without papers.

This YM being sold here is newer and full set for the same price. Also have heard good things about sohail.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ht=Yachtmaster

FLYINGWATCHMEN · 28 June 2016, 10:30 PM

YM for sure!

AK797 · 28 June 2016, 11:14 PM

I'd save a bit more and/or sell the nomos for a TT SubC.

1William · 28 June 2016, 11:42 PM

Save your money and look for a better condition watch.

Danny83 · 28 June 2016, 11:46 PM

Buy a 116613

watchwatcher · 29 June 2016, 12:59 AM

For a TT that is in that shape without gold through the buckle...no way. Keep looking.

Price sounds a little high on the YM, too. If you really want the watch, I would factor in a reasonable service cost, as there is no service history and would give you paperwork going forward. So mid-5's would be my offer.

WS9D · 29 June 2016, 01:07 AM

116613, just not that one. It looks too beat up. For a just a bit more, you can find one in much better shape.

Cryten · 29 June 2016, 01:21 AM

Which one sings to you? Choose that model and then go hunting, neither are rare pieces and that sub is rough, there are far better examples around for similar money.

The problem with shopping locally is you don't always get the best choices. Someone will say TRF Trusted Seller eventually, so I might as well be the first.

normandy · 29 June 2016, 02:28 AM

YM is my pick

beachbum · 29 June 2016, 03:18 AM

Like most have already state I would pass on both. Check the sale forum there are much better examples available. I believe there is also a 16613 available in much better shape for not much more money than what you would be paying for the beat up one. Good luck

AdamITR · 29 June 2016, 12:32 PM

Ok ... great advice everyone. I did fall for one :).

Went back and met with the Jeweler (a close friend) ... looked over the Yachtmaster again, perfect shape, and he found the papers for it. Also gave me a nice price too.

Here it is, I'm very happy with my decision!!!!!

Eacast · 29 June 2016, 12:58 PM

My vote goes to tt blue sub but you could get a better condition watch for that same price. This one sure was a daily beater for several years in a row, lol...

Londonboy · 29 June 2016, 01:03 PM

Adam, stunning, and congrats. I'm a fan of the YM 1

armen34 · 29 June 2016, 02:01 PM

Congrats! I'm glad you passed on that tt, it was rough

28 June 2016, 12:40 PM	#1
AdamITR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NY Posts: 71	Help Choosing Between Platinum Yachtmaster or Blue/Gold Submariner - Pics Inside. Considering these two watches. Both are local to me. 1st. A Yachtmaster S.S. Platinum 40mm, Circa ~ 2001ish (my guess) Price of $6200. No box or paperwork though. The watch is in perfect shape, fits my large wrist fine. Also comes with a watch winder. 2nd. A S.S./Gold Submariner, Box & Paperwork included. Condition a little bit rougher shape than the Yachtmaster. Price of $6100. Pics: Both have been serviced. Other watches in my collection are: A Nomos Ahoi A Grand Seiko Diver - Spring Drive Thoughts?? Is one more “valuable” or a better investment? -Adam

28 June 2016, 02:22 PM	#5
Starwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: aroundtheworld Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK Posts: 2,261	....you should probably pass on both. __________________ 116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds

28 June 2016, 04:07 PM	#10
Canook "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Jason Location: Aussie/Malaysia Watch: too many to list Posts: 1,470	that bluesy has been polished within a inch of its life.....i reckon its 1mm smaller then when it was made lol __________________ Current lineup -116610LV Sub -16233 Tapestry Datejust -16610LV KERMIT -116600 SD4000....16612 Yachtmaster- 16710 PEPSI -216570(polar)- -Yachtmaster II 116688 126300 Datejust 41 jubilee * Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons *

28 June 2016, 08:21 PM	#12
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	I would keep looking. The condition of the TT Blue Sub bothers me. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

28 June 2016, 10:30 PM	#18
FLYINGWATCHMEN "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Europe Posts: 576	YM for sure! __________________ instagram: FLYINGWATCHMEN

28 June 2016, 12:45 PM	#2
WatchinMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Larry Location: Maryland Watch: Saxonia Moonphase Posts: 3,428	The Blusey looks like it is in really tough shape. I'd pass.

28 June 2016, 02:44 PM	#6
Trailblazer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Cab Location: A small world Watch: es Posts: 776	Bluesy is too beaten for an entry into Pm

28 June 2016, 02:50 PM	#7
kromdom "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: USA Posts: 530	which one sings to you? BUY THAT!

28 June 2016, 03:47 PM	#8
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	16613 for me. Love YG.

28 June 2016, 03:50 PM	#9
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,181	That Sub looks beat to hell. I'd pass.

28 June 2016, 08:19 PM	#11
Sandblaster Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: US Watch: 16570, 216570 Posts: 161	For 6k you can get a used ceramic sub or gmt. 2001 YM? I just spent the same money and got a brand new in box Explorer two. Keep shopping is my advice, find a better deal. If you are so in love with the Yacht-Master spend $2,000 more and buy a brand new one with a Sunburst face. Or get seller to lower cost to 5k flat.

28 June 2016, 09:57 PM	#14
TK-710 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Upstate Watch: 116600 Posts: 2,156	It's funny I would love that TT if I had beaten the crap out of it. It would be my pride and joy. No way in hell I'd buy it from someone else like that.

28 June 2016, 10:17 PM	#15
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,356	Keep looking. Not worth it.

28 June 2016, 10:22 PM	#16
MCO1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Missouri USA Watch: Daytona C white Posts: 2,248	I had to make this choice, went with the Yachtmaster first and shortly traded it for the Sub. The plat bezel's easy scratching ability turned me off and I kept the Sub for several years. That all being said this Sub is pretty rough looking, the YM sounds like a better buy. I would personally keep looking.

28 June 2016, 10:29 PM	#17
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	Sub is too worn for my taste and I will never buy a modern piece without papers. This YM being sold here is newer and full set for the same price. Also have heard good things about sohail. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ht=Yachtmaster

28 June 2016, 11:14 PM	#19
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	I'd save a bit more and/or sell the nomos for a TT SubC.

28 June 2016, 11:42 PM	#20
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,764	Save your money and look for a better condition watch.

28 June 2016, 11:46 PM	#21
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,312	Buy a 116613

29 June 2016, 12:59 AM	#22
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,044	For a TT that is in that shape without gold through the buckle...no way. Keep looking. Price sounds a little high on the YM, too. If you really want the watch, I would factor in a reasonable service cost, as there is no service history and would give you paperwork going forward. So mid-5's would be my offer.

29 June 2016, 01:07 AM	#23
WS9D "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Steve Location: Shasta Watch: es..More Watches! Posts: 2,415	116613, just not that one. It looks too beat up. For a just a bit more, you can find one in much better shape.

29 June 2016, 01:21 AM	#24
Cryten "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Terrafirma Posts: 2,655	Which one sings to you? Choose that model and then go hunting, neither are rare pieces and that sub is rough, there are far better examples around for similar money. The problem with shopping locally is you don't always get the best choices. Someone will say TRF Trusted Seller eventually, so I might as well be the first.

29 June 2016, 02:28 AM	#25
normandy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Dominic Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,183	YM is my pick

29 June 2016, 03:18 AM	#26
beachbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: john Location: new jersey Watch: Incoming Posts: 564	Like most have already state I would pass on both. Check the sale forum there are much better examples available. I believe there is also a 16613 available in much better shape for not much more money than what you would be paying for the beat up one. Good luck

29 June 2016, 12:32 PM	#27
AdamITR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NY Posts: 71	Ok ... great advice everyone. I did fall for one :). Went back and met with the Jeweler (a close friend) ... looked over the Yachtmaster again, perfect shape, and he found the papers for it. Also gave me a nice price too. Here it is, I'm very happy with my decision!!!!!

29 June 2016, 12:58 PM	#28
Eacast "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Eddie Location: panama Watch: Rolex Posts: 211	My vote goes to tt blue sub but you could get a better condition watch for that same price. This one sure was a daily beater for several years in a row, lol...

29 June 2016, 01:03 PM	#29
Londonboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 162	Adam, stunning, and congrats. I'm a fan of the YM 1

29 June 2016, 02:01 PM	#30
armen34 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: OC Posts: 1,466	Congrats! I'm glad you passed on that tt, it was rough

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