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Old 2 July 2016, 08:37 AM   #1
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RIGHT NOW – what is the best watch investment you can make?

Which watch do you think is the smartest buy right now, whether vintage, an old model, or brand new?
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Old 2 July 2016, 08:44 AM   #2
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No watch is a good investment, ever
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Old 2 July 2016, 08:55 AM   #3
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Old 2 July 2016, 09:41 AM   #4
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Thread in one.

When you spend money on a watch, that money cannot be spent on other investments that may bring better ROI.
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Old 2 July 2016, 06:58 PM   #5
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Sorry, I tend to disagree. With the bank rates what they are, it is possible to buy certain watches, enjoy them and over years they could be worth more than you would have if you just left your money in the bank.

My first Rolex was the Kermit, bought it for 4,400 euro. It is now worth 7,000 euro eight years later. If you were to buy a Daytona C now at RRP, you could sell it for more, therefore it is a good 'investment'. Certain Panarai bought it the ninties are now worth more than $200000. The 'Bronzo' Panerai, was less than $8000 and can be sold now for 30k. The Paul Newman Daytona, need I go on?
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Sorry, I tend to disagree. With the bank rates what they are, it is possible to buy certain watches, enjoy them and over years they could be worth more than you would have if you just left your money in the bank.

My first Rolex was the Kermit, bought it for 4,400 euro. It is now worth 7,000 euro eight years later. If you were to buy a Daytona C now at RRP, you could sell it for more, therefore it is a good 'investment'. Certain Panarai bought it the ninties are now worth more than $200000. The 'Bronzo' Panerai, was less than $8000 and can be sold now for 30k. The Paul Newman Daytona, need I go on?
Bank rates are not a good investment to compare to. The stock market will typically double your money every seven years. And most watches depreciate over time when compared to inflation.

You cite some exceptions, but there are stocks which have done at least that well over a similar period (Amazon has more than tripled in five years, while your Kermit has yet to double, for example).
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Old 3 July 2016, 06:55 PM   #7
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Bank rates are not a good investment to compare to. The stock market will typically double your money every seven years. And most watches depreciate over time when compared to inflation.



You cite some exceptions, but there are stocks which have done at least that well over a similar period (Amazon has more than tripled in five years, while your Kermit has yet to double, for example).


True, but you can't enjoy wearing stocks around your wrist....



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Old 2 July 2016, 07:58 PM   #8
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Don't know why you didn't pass this thread by - not what op asking

IMHO - sports watches like SD, subs & gmt's if you keep them for 10 years plus will appreciate. Regular price increases plus popularity should see the value increase. I bought my SD in 2005 for £2400. My brother paid £5500 for same model/ 1 owner in mint condition.

A nice 5512, 5513, 1665, 1680 (especially red) - if you buy in excellent condition & not too high a premium - should hold/ appreciate.
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Old 2 July 2016, 10:50 PM   #9
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No watch is a good investment, ever
This pretty much sums it up. And those who try, damage the hobby for the enthusiasts making pieces so far out of reach they end up locked away in safes never to see the light of day. That is the true tragedy of the hobby I see these days.
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Old 8 July 2016, 02:47 AM   #10
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I disagree. Giving someone you love a watch they will love is a good investment. It will be worth more to them than any material price and will bring the two of you closer.
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Old 9 July 2016, 05:32 AM   #11
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I would respectfully disagree and say.....wrong. It all depends on what price range you are in and whether you prefer vintage or modern. Also, how long are you planning on holding the watch? That is an important factor also.

Vintage Rolex have appreciated substantially the past decade. even some of the later models are doing well and appreciating some - most notably the Submariner anniversary 16610LV sets.

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Old 9 July 2016, 05:47 AM   #12
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Enamel dial 5131 at retail. Double your money.
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Old 2 July 2016, 08:49 AM   #13
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Old 8 July 2016, 01:39 AM   #14
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Depends on the purchase price
I will gladly buy a new DaytonaC from someone for $4000. I promise I won't flip it for a profit.
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Old 8 July 2016, 01:45 AM   #15
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I will gladly buy a new DaytonaC from someone for $4000. I promise I won't flip it for a profit.
exactly the point. value is in the eye of the beholder even if you arent selling it.

"In an economic sense, an investment is the purchase of goods that are not consumed today but are used in the future to create wealth."

I am pretty sure most of us dont eat our rolex. And I am nearly certain that if you had to flip your rolex to create future wealth you could do it. Plus just wearing a rolex allows you to have things in common with people who have, generally, greater earning ability and access to resources than the average person.
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Old 9 July 2016, 12:00 AM   #16
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exactly the point. value is in the eye of the beholder even if you arent selling it.

"In an economic sense, an investment is the purchase of goods that are not consumed today but are used in the future to create wealth."

I am pretty sure most of us dont eat our rolex. And I am nearly certain that if you had to flip your rolex to create future wealth you could do it. Plus just wearing a rolex allows you to have things in common with people who have, generally, greater earning ability and access to resources than the average person.
Apple Inc. may be named after a fruit, but seeing somebody eat their stocks is likely rare. (unless you're invested in beer and what not, in which case you'd be drinking it)
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Old 2 July 2016, 08:56 AM   #17
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Old 2 July 2016, 09:00 AM   #18
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I certainly don't consider watches an "investment", but they are a tangible item that hold value somewhat better than other potential material purchases.

I am not sure how many things you can sell for reasonable depreciation while enjoying them daily. Obviously real estate is one of those in the right markets.

Anyway, just my thoughts,.
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Old 2 July 2016, 09:14 AM   #20
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I really don't get all of these threads asking about watches as investments. Surely there are countless other investment vehicles that offer a better return for your money.
You either like a watch for the marvel of engineering it represents or you don't. If you like it enough you'll buy it and enjoy wearing it.
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Old 2 July 2016, 07:56 PM   #21
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I really don't get all of these threads asking about watches as investments. Surely there are countless other investment vehicles that offer a better return for your money.
You either like a watch for the marvel of engineering it represents or you don't. If you like it enough you'll buy it and enjoy wearing it.
Just my thoughts and feel free to disagree.
Would agree with this. Aside from a few really high end models like the more rare vintage Subs, SDs, Daytonas etc which require a very significant injection of cash, it's hard to see how much money could be made on many of the others? Given the thousands that Rolex now produce each week, it's hard to see how the modern releases or even those in the last 20 years or so will ever be an investment. Buying them and enjoying them seems the way to go!
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Old 2 July 2016, 09:30 AM   #23
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Old 2 July 2016, 09:33 AM   #24
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Right now. I'd say the SS ceramic Daytona if you can get one at Msrp you could prolly flip it for a small profit.
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a used SS ceramic submariner, would be pretty hard to lose money. You might make a small percentage in the long run but short run you won't lose any.

As others have said no watch should be viewed as an investment, but you can minimize losses.
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As has been said in different ways ... a watch is not an invest!
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Timex Expedition. Guaranteed not to lose more than $38 to depreciation. And better lume than any Rolex.
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Old 2 July 2016, 10:11 AM   #29
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Timex Expedition. Guaranteed not to lose more than $38 to depreciation. And better lume than any Rolex.
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