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Ed Rooney · 13 August 2008, 02:54 AM

So apparently the Chinese faked some of the opening fireworks with CGI for the opening ceremonies. Now they reveal that a child singer was fake. The real singer wasn't cute enough, so the fake lip-synched.

Issues

toph · 13 August 2008, 03:32 AM

well thats what happens when the government has total control .it is a disgrace.
But i hate to see it overshadow the olympics

pwrslider · 13 August 2008, 04:11 AM

I just read that too...........disgusting!!

Trurolexer · 13 August 2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by toph

well thats what happens when the government has total control.

Yup. They're Comunist Country, remember?

toph · 14 August 2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

Yup. They're Comunist Country, remember?

exactly TR!

Trurolexer · 14 August 2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by toph

exactly TR!

Thanks Toph!!!

Beside that China is my Fore Fathers land, so I don't want to talk bad about this country.

Wherever I live, wherever I go, I still Chinese, so I proud to be.

But, of course that lipsync thing is very wrong.

Jimbits76 · 14 August 2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

Thanks Toph!!!

Beside that China is my Fore Fathers land, so I don't want to talk bad about this country.

Wherever I live, wherever I go, I still Chinese, so I proud to be.

But, of course that lipsync thing is very wrong.

Interesting...my anti Chinese olympics boycott is due to the human rights issues elsewhere.

I think many folk to be careful that the anti Chinese sentiment is on political grounds and not racism!

J

PS...we need to be careful as they are listening in on all of us...apart from me, I have my aluminium kitchen foil helmet!

Ed Rooney · 14 August 2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

Thanks Toph!!!

Beside that China is my Fore Fathers land, so I don't want to talk bad about this country.

Wherever I live, wherever I go, I still Chinese, so I proud to be.

But, of course that lipsync thing is very wrong.

I addressed this in a PM, and thought I should also do so here. My post is in no way intended to be disrespectful of the Chinese people or anyone of Chinese ethnicity. My problem is 100% with the government.

Jimbits76 · 13 August 2008, 04:20 AM

Shush don't upset them...they are watching us!!!!

J

toph · 13 August 2008, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbits76

Shush don't upset them...they are watching us!!!!

J

are we talking about the UK or Chinese Gov't?

Jimbits76 · 13 August 2008, 04:26 AM

As for the CGI I hear they were gonna make Andy Murray look like less of an A$$ Clown and also that he could maybe play tennis...unfortunately the BBC's budget wouldn't stretch that far!

J

Leighton · 13 August 2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Rooney

So apparently the Chinese faked some of the opening fireworks with CGI for the opening ceremonies. Now they reveal that a child singer was fake. The real singer wasn't cute enough, so the fake lip-synched.

Issues

Yeah what's up with that. We would never allow lip syncing or CGI at a sports event in these here United States....

I'm not defending fakers, but I'm just saying.........

The story about that little girl who won the singing competition is really sad though.

Andad · 13 August 2008, 03:22 PM

I don't think that is quite correct. The young singer wasn't lip syncing, she thought she WAS singing the song.

jasonbellevue · 13 August 2008, 03:23 PM

I agree with the story about the little girl, it is sad.

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Originally Posted by directioneng

I don't think that is quite correct. The young singer wasn't lip syncing, she thought she WAS singing the song.

buz-lh · 13 August 2008, 10:11 PM

What's even sadder is the use of underage girls on their gymnastic team. There have been numerous studies of the negative long term effects on young girls involved in such strenous training at such an early age, mainly in the area of reproduction. However, the Chinese government has provided false ID's for these girls and no one has the guts to call them on it. I love the Olympics but I think it is a disgrace to allow this country to be the host. Almost akin to Hitler's olympics in '36 I think it was.

ROLEX MAN · 13 August 2008, 10:15 PM

good lip syncing though!!!

mickeydainish · 13 August 2008, 11:22 PM

very sad that this is all 'acceptable' by the Olympic commitee. I like the world because it IS real.... I like the authenticity and reality that comes with watching a live ceremony... I dont need or want a 'digitally enhanced' opening ceremony or a lip sync singer to make this my best viewing experiance... The Olympics itself and the atmosphere does that all by itself.... IMHO... :-)

Kevinm · 13 August 2008, 11:55 PM

Wonder if the little girls Rolex watch was a fake!!!

Coastal1 · 14 August 2008, 07:09 AM

It is very sad, but should we expect anything else from a communist country especially the Chinese.

Mars · 14 August 2008, 12:38 PM

It's all about face with the Chinese. They have to look good no matter what. Their culture has evolved over many centuries with minimal input from elsewhere. Therefore to expect them to change overnight is ambitious. Given their dispostion with the handicapped, it will be interesting to see how the Paralympics fare e.g. coverage, crowd attendance, etc. In any case, it is probably the cheapest Olympics ever held as everything is / was..........MADE IN CHINA!!!!!

GMTJOHNNY · 14 August 2008, 01:21 PM

I just hope they are using certified chemicals in the pool and not some unknown chlorinated compounds......PCB's for instance.

Are the gold medals "real" or replicas?????

esm · 14 August 2008, 08:59 PM

so the pommies should "be real" for the 2012 games by not doing anything "fancy".....

the way they are going, they wont be able to afford to do anything fancy...

Jimbits76 · 14 August 2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by esm

so the pommies should "be real" for the 2012 games by not doing anything "fancy".....

the way they are going, they wont be able to afford to do anything fancy...

Don't worry Eric, I'm sure the merry old land of Oz won't be far behind us!!!!

J

folexhater · 15 August 2008, 06:44 AM

So many sufferings in that country and yet we to put them down more and more and more! Didn't we already took them for granted by taking our businesses to be done there for cheap labors so we could profit more? They make fakes but don't we make them as well? Maybe they're just better in making fakes that's why we're sour! How about our government? Do we really have the right to judge their country when we are killing innocent lives in our war? Sorry, but I think this thread is just out of order! No need to ban me since I'm not interested in participating in this forum anymore!

redshirt1957 · 15 August 2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by folexhater

So many sufferings in that country and yet we to put them down more and more and more! Didn't we already took them for granted by taking our businesses to be done there for cheap labors so we could profit more? They make fakes but don't we make them as well? Maybe they're just better in making fakes that's why we're sour! How about our government? Do we really have the right to judge their country when we are killing innocent lives in our war? Sorry, but I think this thread is just out of order! No need to ban me since I'm not interested in participating in this forum anymore!

Your post made me smile and realize how lucky we are to live in a place like the USA. I have worked in China and have employees from China and if they every made a statement against their country like yours above; well they would not because of the consequences. We are very lucky.

folexhater · 15 August 2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by redshirt1957

Your post made me smile and realize how lucky we are to live in a place like the USA. I have worked in China and have employees from China and if they every made a statement against their country like yours above; well they would not because of the consequences. We are very lucky.

Right, we are fortunate enough but not enough to leave the less fortunate people alone!

redshirt1957 · 15 August 2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by folexhater

Right, we are fortunate enough but not enough to leave the less fortunate people alone!

Hey, I thought you quit.

. Just having some fun with you. I hear what you are saying, but this is not the time or place to discuss. Hell, I can't fix the wrongs in my own family, much less the worlds.

Jimbits76 · 15 August 2008, 06:50 AM

Kel...don't be so hasty to quit

Nobody said about anything banning and I see nothing in your post to warrant a ban.

There is a fine line between what is being posted all over the world about the Chinese and many are crossing it. Sometimes Political activity will get confused with racism.

As TR states, comments made about Chinese people can be crass and blatently xenophobic and it is easy to blame the nation as a whole for the deeds of their ruling power.

I think many here did not mean to upset anybody with their comments. As Bubba has pointed out, many stereotypes are just generic ignorance. If I had a shiny english penny for all the times people have said that the British are tea drinkers with bad teeth, Limeys etc I would be posting on a Patek forum.

Please, these misunderstandings happen...give everybody a chance and I'm sure you'll see that no harm was meant!

J

13 August 2008, 02:54 AM	#1
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	More Chinese Fakes So apparently the Chinese faked some of the opening fireworks with CGI for the opening ceremonies. Now they reveal that a child singer was fake. The real singer wasn't cute enough, so the fake lip-synched. Issues

13 August 2008, 03:32 AM	#2
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	well thats what happens when the government has total control .it is a disgrace. But i hate to see it overshadow the olympics __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

13 August 2008, 04:11 AM	#3
pwrslider "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Steve Location: SF BAY AREA CA Watch: 16710 Coke Posts: 3,047	I just read that too...........disgusting!! __________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner (95) Rolex SS GMT IIc (08) Rolex GMT II 16710 COKE (08 for me..) Rolex Explorer II Blk (91) Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish (07) Panerai 104 & 177ti ( 04/03)

13 August 2008, 03:22 PM	#13
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,534	I don't think that is quite correct. The young singer wasn't lip syncing, she thought she WAS singing the song. __________________ E

13 August 2008, 10:11 PM	#15
buz-lh "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Buz Location: Atlanta Watch: Rolex Tudor Pam Posts: 5,108	What's even sadder is the use of underage girls on their gymnastic team. There have been numerous studies of the negative long term effects on young girls involved in such strenous training at such an early age, mainly in the area of reproduction. However, the Chinese government has provided false ID's for these girls and no one has the guts to call them on it. I love the Olympics but I think it is a disgrace to allow this country to be the host. Almost akin to Hitler's olympics in '36 I think it was. __________________ Buz The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live. Peter Diamandis

13 August 2008, 04:20 AM	#9
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	Shush don't upset them...they are watching us!!!! J

13 August 2008, 04:26 AM	#11
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	As for the CGI I hear they were gonna make Andy Murray look like less of an A$$ Clown and also that he could maybe play tennis...unfortunately the BBC's budget wouldn't stretch that far! J

13 August 2008, 10:15 PM	#16
ROLEX MAN 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: Home and Away Watch: you? "YES PLEASE"! Posts: 3,719	good lip syncing though!!! __________________ *it's not just about telling the time...* *happy rolexing...* I'm just a man with a passion

13 August 2008, 11:22 PM	#17
mickeydainish Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Michael Location: LaLa Land Watch: Sub Date 16610 Posts: 1,757	very sad that this is all 'acceptable' by the Olympic commitee. I like the world because it IS real.... I like the authenticity and reality that comes with watching a live ceremony... I dont need or want a 'digitally enhanced' opening ceremony or a lip sync singer to make this my best viewing experiance... The Olympics itself and the atmosphere does that all by itself.... IMHO... :-)

13 August 2008, 11:55 PM	#18
Kevinm Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Fla USA Posts: 60	Wonder if the little girls Rolex watch was a fake!!!

14 August 2008, 07:09 AM	#19
Coastal1 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gulf Coast, USA Posts: 288	It is very sad, but should we expect anything else from a communist country especially the Chinese.

14 August 2008, 12:38 PM	#20
Mars Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 205	It's all about face with the Chinese. They have to look good no matter what. Their culture has evolved over many centuries with minimal input from elsewhere. Therefore to expect them to change overnight is ambitious. Given their dispostion with the handicapped, it will be interesting to see how the Paralympics fare e.g. coverage, crowd attendance, etc. In any case, it is probably the cheapest Olympics ever held as everything is / was..........MADE IN CHINA!!!!!

14 August 2008, 01:21 PM	#21
GMTJOHNNY "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: LONG ISLAND, NY Watch: 2007 DAY DATE 18KT Posts: 1,378	I just hope they are using certified chemicals in the pool and not some unknown chlorinated compounds......PCB's for instance. Are the gold medals "real" or replicas????? __________________ ROLEX DAY DATE 118238 (2007) ROLEX DAY DATE 18238 (1997) ROLEX GMT 16750 PEPSI (1987) ROLEX AIR KING 14000 (1991) ROLEX GMTIIC TT 116713LN (2008)

14 August 2008, 08:59 PM	#22
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	so the pommies should "be real" for the 2012 games by not doing anything "fancy"..... the way they are going, they wont be able to afford to do anything fancy...

15 August 2008, 06:44 AM	#24
folexhater Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: kel Location: Los Angeles Posts: 481	So many sufferings in that country and yet we to put them down more and more and more! Didn't we already took them for granted by taking our businesses to be done there for cheap labors so we could profit more? They make fakes but don't we make them as well? Maybe they're just better in making fakes that's why we're sour! How about our government? Do we really have the right to judge their country when we are killing innocent lives in our war? Sorry, but I think this thread is just out of order! No need to ban me since I'm not interested in participating in this forum anymore!

15 August 2008, 06:50 AM	#28
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	Kel...don't be so hasty to quit Nobody said about anything banning and I see nothing in your post to warrant a ban. There is a fine line between what is being posted all over the world about the Chinese and many are crossing it. Sometimes Political activity will get confused with racism. As TR states, comments made about Chinese people can be crass and blatently xenophobic and it is easy to blame the nation as a whole for the deeds of their ruling power. I think many here did not mean to upset anybody with their comments. As Bubba has pointed out, many stereotypes are just generic ignorance. If I had a shiny english penny for all the times people have said that the British are tea drinkers with bad teeth, Limeys etc I would be posting on a Patek forum. Please, these misunderstandings happen...give everybody a chance and I'm sure you'll see that no harm was meant! J

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