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lapince · 31 August 2016, 10:12 PM

Hi guys, I was wondering if I should make this addition to my collection, basically between what I have and what I will have gotten by June my collection will look like this:

AP ceramic diver
PP 5712
PP 5167R
PP 5711
And a made to order watch from an independent in WG, that one should make a serious incoming, even if I already paid 70% upfront for the order I won't say what it is, but it's going to be the pinnacle of my collection.

So basically 5 watches, have other lower end watches but let's not count them in.
I won't have a single watch which costs less than 20K, which means that I won't take any to go to the beach or for a swim, I know the diver can swim but having had the case crack once I would be afraid to have it happen again, so I am considering a Daytona C, probably white dial, it makes me think a little of the Paul Newman one.

Also my 5 watch collection is very well thought, and watches I really love and which will do great in a rotation, I have thought about it for a very long time, and have bothered you enough with many threads about these watches that I am getting, which has helped me to really choose the ones I wanted and that will at 99% be keepers for me.

Do you think that I will probably not wear it enough with the ones I have and will flip it? I went through the buying and selling phase and would prefer not going through that again, even if I don't loose money, no need to fuel the addiction...

Sorry to make such a huge thread about basically "should I get a Daytona or not?" but I like things to be clear.

And if it was possible I would like the thread not to be moved in the Rolex section, it's more about the watches I have and am getting than the Daytona, plus the Rolex posters don't really know me whereas many of you guys here do...

Anyways thanks in advance for your thoughts and ideas about this.

texex91 · 31 August 2016, 10:29 PM

Based upon some of your previous posts regarding Rolex, I'm surprised. But if this is your 'future collection' (you mention June--of 2017 I assume), may I suggest you get the watches first. Going by history things can take a little longer than expected.

Not sure what you own now, if you want to toss in a Daytona, go for it. If you're looking for a beach beater, grab a Sub or GMT--even better water watches.

I'm confused as to the quandary here?

Either way good luck.

lapince · 31 August 2016, 11:43 PM

Very simple Paul, I have the AP, 5712, the 5167R is paid in full and waiting for me in CH, going there in 3-4 weeks, the independent is paid at 70%, and delivery date is May 2017, the only one which isn't either paid in full or in part is the 5711 and Daytona if I take one. Both 5711 and Daytona have estimated arrival first half of 2017..
To be honest it's the only Rolex In SS I find comfortable, can't stand the subs, GMT's and all, had them and find them horrible to wear since I got my first 5712...

I didn't want to add a watch but I realize I don't have a watch I would wear when 1 time a year we go spend 3-4 weeks in Asia, or for sports but vacation is the biggest reason, I know WR is only 100m, but I think it is more than sufficient, before my BLNR was my vacation watch, has the same WR and it was more than fine

texex91 · 31 August 2016, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lapince

To be honest it's the only Rolex In SS I find comfortable, can't stand the subs, GMT's and all, had them and find them horrible to wear since I got my first 5712...

Well there's your answer, grab the Daytona and enjoy it.

Good news--doesn't sound like it's incoming until 2017, so plenty of time to change your mind

cervantes · 31 August 2016, 11:55 PM

What's this mysterious independent?

jschmidtdmd · 1 September 2016, 12:15 AM

I think this is a reasonable thread. For me, I a few pieces I wear without regard. ie a sea dweller, gmt, tudor.

If you feel like the daytona c is going to be that piece for you, go for it. You may be better off with a sea dweller or sub though, but that's for you to decide.

daytonaTBR · 1 September 2016, 12:31 AM

I'm curious to know which independent you're talking about as well!

That said I think the DaytonaC would be the perfect SS Rolex to use as a "beater"/vacation watch. But I would wait until you get your other watches first because tastes change over time and by then the market premiums won't be as high. However, if you can get one at retail now then go for it

ps is the 5711 steel or rg?

lapince · 3 September 2016, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Aw15

ps is the 5711 steel or rg?

Sorry I missed your question, no the 5711 is steel, Maybe it's stupid to have 5711/5712 in a small collection but I think they can be fine in a rotation within a 5 watch collection

lapince · 1 September 2016, 01:14 AM

Thanks guys, yes it is going to be here in 2017, maybe there are tougher "vacation watches", but for me it's fine, and comfy as well as very cool looking, can't stand subs and other Rolexes like them, they look nice but it's a pain to wear.

Well it's not Dufour but you're in for a treat I think, should be one of the best incoming threads ever made here from a very small independent

Anyways thanks for your answers guys, the Daytona c white dial is ordered, it will arrive in 2017 like the 5711 at my AD in CH

cervantes · 1 September 2016, 01:23 AM

Well it's not Dufour but you're in for a treat I think, should be one of the best incoming threads ever made here from a very small independent

We're going to hold you to that!

SC11 · 1 September 2016, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cervantes

Well it's not Dufour but you're in for a treat I think, should be one of the best incoming threads ever made here from a very small independent

We're going to hold you to that!

The gauntlet has been thrown..

With Roger and Paul's PP/RM incomings I'm looking forward to this..

Back to your quandary why not just use the ceramic diver? Your previous issue as you said wasn't the result of a knock it was a freak accident and not something to expect in the future, also from memory one of the main reasons for the ceramic was its ability to withstand scratches and your concern with them, surely that means your ideal beach/pool watch you already have in your collection.

lapince · 1 September 2016, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cervantes

Well it's not Dufour but you're in for a treat I think, should be one of the best incoming threads ever made here from a very small independent

We're going to hold you to that!

LOL, you won't be disappointed I can assure you

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Originally Posted by SC11

The gauntlet has been thrown..

With Roger and Paul's PP/RM incomings I'm looking forward to this..

Back to your quandary why not just use the ceramic diver? Your previous issue as you said wasn't the result of a knock it was a freak accident and not something to expect in the future, also from memory one of the main reasons for the ceramic was its ability to withstand scratches and your concern with them, surely that means your ideal beach/pool watch you already have in your collection.

Totally different than RM, you can't compare them, when I say one of the best independent incomings I was saying for very small independents, they make 40-50 watches a year, it's gonna be a unique piece and signed as such. I wouldn't have said anything about it before, but since I already wired 70% of the sum one month ago, the watch is coming in for sure.

Yes but the fact that the ceramic cracked for no apparent reason, made me think that if I swim and hit it on a rock or on the side of the pool, it'll cost me a fortune, I find the Daytona much better suited for a vacation watch, a big scratch won't really bother me, and almost no risk of damaging it seriously, the AP doesn't scratch but as I learned can crack...

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Originally Posted by Aw15

I'm gonna guess it's a Voutilainen! Anyways, looking forward to your future incomings

Answer in June 2017

daytonaTBR · 1 September 2016, 01:50 AM

I'm gonna guess it's a Voutilainen! Anyways, looking forward to your future incomings

masyv6 · 1 September 2016, 04:27 AM

Can't wait to see what the independent will be!

cda555 · 1 September 2016, 05:13 AM

I think getting the Daytona is a safe choice. If you decide you don't like it, you could probably still sell it for at least what you paid. I know you said you would be scared to wear the ceramic AP on vacation, but have you considered getting it insured? I bet your premium would be $500 a year. It would take 25 years to pay more than $12400 (MSRP for the Daytona).

Peterandwatches · 1 September 2016, 06:14 AM

I think any collection could use a Rolex, especially as a tool watch, so I think it would be a wise choice.

Having said that, your collection has purposefully moved beyond Rolex, and you have comfort issues with Rolex bracelets. If you can't physically wear a Sub, or GMT, a Daytona is not going to wear a lot different. No, I don't think Rolex is the way go. That's a firm no on the Daytona.

You need to look to a high end brand sports model, one that has the prestige, movement, and exclusivity to match your collection - something like a 5167 in steel, but you already have the gold one. The VC Overseas for example. Not saying it has to be VC, but you should look to high end brands and what their sport models have to offer. Breguet, Blanpain, etc.

texex91 · 1 September 2016, 06:34 AM

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can bring my calendar out only once :-)

ELITEVIDEOGAMES · 1 September 2016, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can mark my calendar once :-)

Mark me for 2020 please thats my big year

Marciano490 · 1 September 2016, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can bring my calendar out only once :-)

I plan to start my own independent watch company in 2017, so I'll be making a lot of outgoing posts next year.

lapince · 1 September 2016, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cda555

I think getting the Daytona is a safe choice. If you decide you don't like it, you could probably still sell it for at least what you paid. I know you said you would be scared to wear the ceramic AP on vacation, but have you considered getting it insured? I bet your premium would be $500 a year. It would take 25 years to pay more than $12400 (MSRP for the Daytona).

TO be honest if I start to insure the AP I will do as such for the others, too much cash, they are insured though if there is a fire or burglary in my house as there is usually one or two, but insure them when I wear them no, try to be careful, plus I really love it, I need a watch which I don't really care about much...

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Originally Posted by Peterandwatches

I think any collection could use a Rolex, especially as a tool watch, so I think it would be a wise choice.

Having said that, your collection has purposefully moved beyond Rolex, and you have comfort issues with Rolex bracelets. If you can't physically wear a Sub, or GMT, a Daytona is not going to wear a lot different. No, I don't think Rolex is the way go. That's a firm no on the Daytona.

You need to look to a high end brand sports model, one that has the prestige, movement, and exclusivity to match your collection - something like a 5167 in steel, but you already have the gold one. The VC Overseas for example. Not saying it has to be VC, but you should look to high end brands and what their sport models have to offer. Breguet, Blanpain, etc.

Well I wore the Daytona C and I don't really agree, I find it wears very nice, it's very flat, nothing in common with subs, GLT's and even 41mm datejusts IMO, I found it very comfy to be honest, that's the main reason why I have been thinking about it since I returned from my CH trip

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Originally Posted by texex91

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can bring my calendar out only once :-)

Good one Paul

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Originally Posted by ELITEVIDEOGAMES

It will be a nice collection once all is arrived.
I know your ceramic AP case broke one time but I highly doubt it will break going for a swim unless you are doing olympic backflips off a diving board or white water rafting.
I say skip the daytona and make the AP your "Beater".

I know but it will never be a kind of vacation watch where I won't have any worries at all, the Daytona is totally that kind of watch, it gets scratched or bezel gets chipped I'm ok with that, ok will repair the bezel, I will be totally worry free with that on vacation

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Originally Posted by Marciano490

I plan to start my own independent watch company in 2017, so I'll be making a lot of outgoing posts next year.

you're kidding right?

conkers · 1 September 2016, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can bring my calendar out only once :-)

I estimate a least a dozen in 2017 but probably a few less in 2018. I may even have another in a few days!

GB-man · 1 September 2016, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

I estimate a least a dozen in 2017 but probably a few less in 2018. I may even have another in a few days!

Daytona sounds like a good add Arnaud. Who cares about if you end up flipping? Hard to lose money on one bought at an AD.

Rolex is my favorite brand so I wouldn't be caught without one...but I don't seem to get that vibe from you so I can understand your hesitation. Personally, I would use your diver. I don't imagine you'll crack it again

lapince · 1 September 2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

I estimate a least a dozen in 2017 but probably a few less in 2018. I may even have another in a few days!

Well the 2016 incomings were seriously stunning Roger

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Daytona sounds like a good add Arnaud. Who cares about if you end up flipping? Hard to lose money on one bought at an AD.

Rolex is my favorite brand so I wouldn't be caught without one...but I don't seem to get that vibe from you so I can understand your hesitation. Personally, I would use your diver. I don't imagine you'll crack it again

Yeah I am not a big Rolex fan, though was for a few years...
Anyways decided to get it, want the white dial, looks better IMO than the black one

Andad · 3 September 2016, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

I estimate a least a dozen in 2017 but probably a few less in 2018. I may even have another in a few days!

You are THE man Roger.

I am hanging out for your next addition.

Plastique999 · 1 September 2016, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can bring my calendar out only once :-)

Lollll

Sent from my 16M

KarlS · 4 September 2016, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can bring my calendar out only once :-)

I have a June 2017 and I think the 5131 or 5231 or 5331 in October 2023

lapince · 4 September 2016, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

I have a June 2017 and I think the 5131 or 5231 or 5331 in October 2023

I think the June one should be a great one as well

AK797 · 1 September 2016, 06:37 AM

Daytona C sounds like the right move. I have the RG and prefer full subdials rather than subdial rings so I might pass on the SS.

lapince · 1 September 2016, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Daytona C sounds like the right move. I have the RG and prefer full subdials rather than subdial rings so I might pass on the SS.

Thanks my friend, think for me it is perfect, a watch I like enough to wear and which I don't care about to stress if there is a big scratch or scratches, a real "light beater". You have 156515? Or full gold? Had it in ivory dial, but wasn't big on RG back then

ELITEVIDEOGAMES · 1 September 2016, 06:38 AM

It will be a nice collection once all is arrived.
I know your ceramic AP case broke one time but I highly doubt it will break going for a swim unless you are doing olympic backflips off a diving board or white water rafting.
I say skip the daytona and make the AP your "Beater".

31 August 2016, 10:12 PM	#1
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Do you think I should... Hi guys, I was wondering if I should make this addition to my collection, basically between what I have and what I will have gotten by June my collection will look like this: AP ceramic diver PP 5712 PP 5167R PP 5711 And a made to order watch from an independent in WG, that one should make a serious incoming, even if I already paid 70% upfront for the order I won't say what it is, but it's going to be the pinnacle of my collection. So basically 5 watches, have other lower end watches but let's not count them in. I won't have a single watch which costs less than 20K, which means that I won't take any to go to the beach or for a swim, I know the diver can swim but having had the case crack once I would be afraid to have it happen again, so I am considering a Daytona C, probably white dial, it makes me think a little of the Paul Newman one. Also my 5 watch collection is very well thought, and watches I really love and which will do great in a rotation, I have thought about it for a very long time, and have bothered you enough with many threads about these watches that I am getting, which has helped me to really choose the ones I wanted and that will at 99% be keepers for me. Do you think that I will probably not wear it enough with the ones I have and will flip it? I went through the buying and selling phase and would prefer not going through that again, even if I don't loose money, no need to fuel the addiction... Sorry to make such a huge thread about basically "should I get a Daytona or not?" but I like things to be clear. And if it was possible I would like the thread not to be moved in the Rolex section, it's more about the watches I have and am getting than the Daytona, plus the Rolex posters don't really know me whereas many of you guys here do... Anyways thanks in advance for your thoughts and ideas about this.

1 September 2016, 12:15 AM	#6
jschmidtdmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: John Location: Denver Posts: 2,294	I think this is a reasonable thread. For me, I a few pieces I wear without regard. ie a sea dweller, gmt, tudor. If you feel like the daytona c is going to be that piece for you, go for it. You may be better off with a sea dweller or sub though, but that's for you to decide. __________________ Watches!

31 August 2016, 10:29 PM	#2
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Based upon some of your previous posts regarding Rolex, I'm surprised. But if this is your 'future collection' (you mention June--of 2017 I assume), may I suggest you get the watches first. Going by history things can take a little longer than expected. Not sure what you own now, if you want to toss in a Daytona, go for it. If you're looking for a beach beater, grab a Sub or GMT--even better water watches. I'm confused as to the quandary here? Either way good luck.

31 August 2016, 11:43 PM	#3
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Very simple Paul, I have the AP, 5712, the 5167R is paid in full and waiting for me in CH, going there in 3-4 weeks, the independent is paid at 70%, and delivery date is May 2017, the only one which isn't either paid in full or in part is the 5711 and Daytona if I take one. Both 5711 and Daytona have estimated arrival first half of 2017.. To be honest it's the only Rolex In SS I find comfortable, can't stand the subs, GMT's and all, had them and find them horrible to wear since I got my first 5712... I didn't want to add a watch but I realize I don't have a watch I would wear when 1 time a year we go spend 3-4 weeks in Asia, or for sports but vacation is the biggest reason, I know WR is only 100m, but I think it is more than sufficient, before my BLNR was my vacation watch, has the same WR and it was more than fine

31 August 2016, 11:55 PM	#5
cervantes "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: East and West Posts: 1,894	What's this mysterious independent?

1 September 2016, 12:31 AM	#7
daytonaTBR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 1,466	I'm curious to know which independent you're talking about as well! That said I think the DaytonaC would be the perfect SS Rolex to use as a "beater"/vacation watch. But I would wait until you get your other watches first because tastes change over time and by then the market premiums won't be as high. However, if you can get one at retail now then go for it ps is the 5711 steel or rg?

1 September 2016, 01:14 AM	#9
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Thanks guys, yes it is going to be here in 2017, maybe there are tougher "vacation watches", but for me it's fine, and comfy as well as very cool looking, can't stand subs and other Rolexes like them, they look nice but it's a pain to wear. Well it's not Dufour but you're in for a treat I think, should be one of the best incoming threads ever made here from a very small independent Anyways thanks for your answers guys, the Daytona c white dial is ordered, it will arrive in 2017 like the 5711 at my AD in CH

1 September 2016, 01:23 AM	#10
cervantes "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: East and West Posts: 1,894	Well it's not Dufour but you're in for a treat I think, should be one of the best incoming threads ever made here from a very small independent We're going to hold you to that!

1 September 2016, 01:50 AM	#13
daytonaTBR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 1,466	I'm gonna guess it's a Voutilainen! Anyways, looking forward to your future incomings

1 September 2016, 04:27 AM	#14
masyv6 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: 35000ft Posts: 3,771	Can't wait to see what the independent will be!

1 September 2016, 05:13 AM	#15
cda555 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: USA Watch: 126610LV and SMP Posts: 1,645	I think getting the Daytona is a safe choice. If you decide you don't like it, you could probably still sell it for at least what you paid. I know you said you would be scared to wear the ceramic AP on vacation, but have you considered getting it insured? I bet your premium would be $500 a year. It would take 25 years to pay more than $12400 (MSRP for the Daytona).

1 September 2016, 06:14 AM	#16
Peterandwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: WA Watch: 5167/15400/Sub/JLC Posts: 1,023	I think any collection could use a Rolex, especially as a tool watch, so I think it would be a wise choice. Having said that, your collection has purposefully moved beyond Rolex, and you have comfort issues with Rolex bracelets. If you can't physically wear a Sub, or GMT, a Daytona is not going to wear a lot different. No, I don't think Rolex is the way go. That's a firm no on the Daytona. You need to look to a high end brand sports model, one that has the prestige, movement, and exclusivity to match your collection - something like a 5167 in steel, but you already have the gold one. The VC Overseas for example. Not saying it has to be VC, but you should look to high end brands and what their sport models have to offer. Breguet, Blanpain, etc.

1 September 2016, 06:34 AM	#17
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Anyone else have incomings past June 2017 or in 2018 so I can bring my calendar out only once :-)

1 September 2016, 06:37 AM	#28
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Daytona C sounds like the right move. I have the RG and prefer full subdials rather than subdial rings so I might pass on the SS.

1 September 2016, 06:38 AM	#30
ELITEVIDEOGAMES "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tom Location: Long Island NY Watch: me sell games Posts: 1,898	It will be a nice collection once all is arrived. I know your ceramic AP case broke one time but I highly doubt it will break going for a swim unless you are doing olympic backflips off a diving board or white water rafting. I say skip the daytona and make the AP your "Beater".

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