black GMT master II or black sub

[Felix_]

I'm graduating this year and I'm thinking about getting myself a decent watch. Never a big fan of batman. What's your choice between these two? Such a difficult choice. Thanks.

[japenney]

If you don't think you will use the gmt function you just have to decide if you like the polished links more or less. I pick the gmt every time because it track 2 timezones and also time a pizza like the sub. It just has more functionality.

[Bond's First Watch]

Try them both on your wrist. Buy what speaks to you. End of story.

[shedlock2000]

Originally Posted by Bond's First Watch

Try them both on your wrist. Buy what speaks to you. End of story.

x2

I have had both; the GMT felt better.

[HogwldFLTR]

Likely the GMT over the sub. Love having both.

[mtgjr]

Are we talking current 6-digit references, or the pre-ceramic 5-digit references?

[Melanotaenia]

Sub for sure.

[T. Ferguson]

Love both. My first Rolex was a Sub. My favorite Rolex though is the GMT. Every bit as iconic as the Sub, and has the coolest complication ever devised for a wristwatch, imho.

No wrong choice here though, follow your bliss.

[Felix_]

Thanks for the advice. Is GMT easy to set? The time zone function looks a little bit complicated to use compared to the quickset of sub.

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

Love both. My first Rolex was a Sub. My favorite Rolex though is the GMT. Every bit as iconic as the Sub, and has the coolest complication ever devised for a wristwatch, imho.

No wrong choice here though, follow your bliss.

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by Felix_

Thanks for the advice. Is GMT easy to set? The time zone function looks a little bit complicated to use compared to the quickset of sub.

It's not that complicated. The date does take a little longer to set because it is not quickset like the Sub. It is "quasi-quick set". With the crown in position two, on the Sub this turns the date wheel. On the GMT this turns the hour hand. So you spin the hour hand around the dial twice to change to the next day (Only takes 2-3 turns of the crown). It's still pretty fast. Of course, if it's your daily wearer you won't have to change the date except one day once every couple of months that less than 31 days, and then only one day. If the watch is stopped when you go to set it, you will never be more than two weeks away from the date because you can set it forwards or backwards.

To set the GMT:

1) Pull the crown out to position 3 and set the minute hand and 24 hour hand to the bezel.

2) With the crown in position 2, set the date and 12 hour hand to the dial.

Using the time zone function is simple. You read the 24 hour hand off the bezel, and the 12 hour hand off the dial. I keep both hour hands synched to my home time (but you don't have to). So if it's 2PM where I live in California, the 24 hour hand is pointing to 14 on the bezel. If I travel say to New York, I jump the 12 hour hand ahead 3 hours so my watch is now reading local time in NYC. I continue to track my home time with the 24 hour hand off the bezel. Now, say I need to call a friend in Hawaii. It's three hours behind my home time. So I move the bezel clockwise three hours and the 24 hour hand is now pointing to the time in Hawaii. If it was reading 14 for the time in LA (2PM) then it would now read 11AM, the time in Hawaii. When I want home time again fro any third time I was tracking, I just move the pip back to the top.

It's really not that complicated, and part of the charm of owning a GMT is knowing how it functions.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Felix_

Thanks for the advice. Is GMT easy to set? The time zone function looks a little bit complicated to use compared to the quickset of sub.

If you can get through college, you can certainly master a GMTII. Another alternative is a GMT with quick set date (for example, my 16700 comes to mind). An advantage the five digit references have is the easily switch bezel inserts. Mine has Black, Pepsi, and Coke inserts. I also like the fonts on the Al inserts better than on the Ceramics.

[Aceldama]

GMT. You'll use the feature eventually.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Gmt!

[cdbeaver66]

Either watch is great, I'll just leave this here though...




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[Utomow]

Both are excellent watch,

personally I would go with Submariner C-Date if this were the first rolex

[amh]

Gmt

[faz]

Some points for the OP to think about and look into before deciding:

GMT is a busier looking watch than Sub. ( bezel has more digits written all over it, the extra hand inside).

Unless you travel a lot, in think the GMT functionality is a bit over rated.

GMT will cost more to service and probably more prone to having issues ( added functionality does add complexity).

You can't go wrong with either one, and I own one of each now. Just some points for you to think about.


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[bluebeamer]

sub more classy and minimalist looking
always found the gmt bezel too 'busy' looking

[1William]

I prefer the sub for the glidelock clasp and less text on the bezel.

[brandrea]

Tough choice. I've owned both and for me the Submariner stayed, I let the GMTC go.

[AK797]

Subc first if you don't need the timezones.

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by AK797

Subc first if you don't need the timezones.

⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ Agree!

[Watchgeek5000]

Sub

[Auto16610]

If you need a GMT function then get the GMT. If you don't then get the LN. Easy!

[bmrisko]

GMT...especially if you travel.

[Mick P]

Originally Posted by Felix_

I'm graduating this year and I'm thinking about getting myself a decent watch. Never a big fan of batman. What's your choice between these two? Such a difficult choice. Thanks.

Felix

If you buy a Sub, you will be able to dive to great depths. You will be able to don a tight fitting rubber suit and look like James Bond with your Sub on your wrist. The only problem is that you won't know the time in other countries.

If on the other hand you buy a GMT, you will know the time in NY or London etc but will be limited to diving to a mere 100ft. It is only fair to mention that most Rolex only get wet in the shower or when the wearer is doing the washing up.

So what is the most important, chasing fish in the water or telling your friends the precise time in other countries. Hope that helps.

Regards

Mick - currently wearing a Sub on dry land in Spain and knows the time in London and NY by simply mentally adding or deducting a number of hours.

[Wcdhtwn]

Originally Posted by Mick P

Felix

If you buy a Sub, you will be able to dive to great depths. You will be able to don a tight fitting rubber suit and look like James Bond with your Sub on your wrist. The only problem is that you won't know the time in other countries.

If on the other hand you buy a GMT, you will know the time in NY or London etc but will be limited to diving to a mere 100ft. It is only fair to mention that most Rolex only get wet in the shower or when the wearer is doing the washing up.

A mere 100 Meters, 330ft.

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by Mick P

Felix

If you buy a Sub, you will be able to dive to great depths. You will be able to don a tight fitting rubber suit and look like James Bond with your Sub on your wrist. The only problem is that you won't know the time in other countries.

If on the other hand you buy a GMT, you will know the time in NY or London etc but will be limited to diving to a mere 100ft. It is only fair to mention that most Rolex only get wet in the shower or when the wearer is doing the washing up.

So what is the most important, chasing fish in the water or telling your friends the precise time in other countries. Hope that helps.

Regards

Mick - currently wearing a Sub on dry land in Spain and knows the time in London and NY by simply mentally adding or deducting a number of hours.

LMAO! Thank you for that!

[tvad]

Why do the opinions of faceless people on the internet matter to you? Buy what you like and be confident in your choice.

[Mick P]

Originally Posted by tvad

Why do the opinions of faceless people on the internet matter to you? Buy what you like and be confident in your choice.

Good God man, you are advocating the death of this forum.

Regards

Faceless Mick - with a totally worthless opinion.