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stewester · 16 October 2016, 09:52 PM

Hi

Newbie here with a question about a red 1680 I'm looking at. Sorry if I've posted this in the wrong place.

The dial seems a genuine mk II (though please feel free to correct me!), but I have concerns about the case, namely the engravings between the lugs. They seem very "fresh" compared with other examples I have seen.

Any comments from the knowledgeable members on here would be very much appreciated!

GLADIATOR · 17 October 2016, 12:14 AM

Is this a double post? I am positive we had an identical one.
Case and case back surely looks aftermarket/custom.
Dial also suspect. I can not see enough of movement to confirm

stewester · 17 October 2016, 02:15 AM

Many thanks for the advice and apologies if it was a double post. I did have a search before posting but couldn't find anything.

I had thought that the dial and caseback seemed alright which is quite scary! Will give this one a miss then.

Cheers :)

GLADIATOR · 17 October 2016, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by stewester

Many thanks for the advice and apologies if it was a double post. I did have a search before posting but couldn't find anything.

I had thought that the dial and caseback seemed alright which is quite scary! Will give this one a miss then.

Cheers :)

Well that is my opinion on case/case back is custom made. Dial also looks suspect to me.
Hopefully others will add their opinion.
But till then, I would act with extreme caution.
adam

PRSWILL · 22 October 2016, 03:49 AM

If it's fake, it's a very good one. The age of this watch would indicate it's real as the fakes that were made when this one was new were HORRIBLE! The mechanism looks accurate and I think the dial looks good. Not sure about the back, but the markings look legit.

crowncollection · 28 October 2016, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PRSWILL

If it's fake, it's a very good one. The age of this watch would indicate it's real as the fakes that were made when this one was new were HORRIBLE! The mechanism looks accurate and I think the dial looks good. Not sure about the back, but the markings look legit.

hmm fakes were made as early as the thirties ?

WillOdling · 28 October 2016, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PRSWILL

If it's fake, it's a very good one. The age of this watch would indicate it's real as the fakes that were made when this one was new were HORRIBLE! The mechanism looks accurate and I think the dial looks good. Not sure about the back, but the markings look legit.

Your aware they currently produce fakes of vintage watches right?

Lordofrolex · 22 October 2016, 04:19 AM

Red 1680 are the hardest watches to buy. So many people trying to pull a fast one when it comes to these.

occb2 · 28 October 2016, 08:32 AM

I think Gladiator is correct. That dial look way to good and new. That case looks like an aftermarket. The movement looks real but everything else can be aftermarket. And as far as the engraving. They wear out and watchmakers will re-engrave the numbers.

alcrts · 30 October 2016, 10:06 PM

I'm not too sure about the dial, the print looks okay to be honest but I can't tell for sure. Something looks odd whilst something tells me it's good. Movement is real and case can be anything from real to aftermarket.

16 October 2016, 09:52 PM	#1
stewester "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: N.Wales Posts: 253	1680 Red Submariner legit? Hi Newbie here with a question about a red 1680 I'm looking at. Sorry if I've posted this in the wrong place. The dial seems a genuine mk II (though please feel free to correct me!), but I have concerns about the case, namely the engravings between the lugs. They seem very "fresh" compared with other examples I have seen. Any comments from the knowledgeable members on here would be very much appreciated!

17 October 2016, 12:14 AM	#2
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Is this a double post? I am positive we had an identical one. Case and case back surely looks aftermarket/custom. Dial also suspect. I can not see enough of movement to confirm __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

17 October 2016, 02:15 AM	#3
stewester "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: N.Wales Posts: 253	Many thanks for the advice and apologies if it was a double post. I did have a search before posting but couldn't find anything. I had thought that the dial and caseback seemed alright which is quite scary! Will give this one a miss then. Cheers :) Last edited by stewester; 17 October 2016 at 02:16 AM.. Reason: Grammar

22 October 2016, 04:19 AM	#8
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,691	Red 1680 are the hardest watches to buy. So many people trying to pull a fast one when it comes to these. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

22 October 2016, 03:49 AM	#5
PRSWILL "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 267	If it's fake, it's a very good one. The age of this watch would indicate it's real as the fakes that were made when this one was new were HORRIBLE! The mechanism looks accurate and I think the dial looks good. Not sure about the back, but the markings look legit.

28 October 2016, 08:32 AM	#9
occb2 Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Robert Location: New York Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 321	I think Gladiator is correct. That dial look way to good and new. That case looks like an aftermarket. The movement looks real but everything else can be aftermarket. And as far as the engraving. They wear out and watchmakers will re-engrave the numbers.

30 October 2016, 10:06 PM	#10
alcrts "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Europe Posts: 184	I'm not too sure about the dial, the print looks okay to be honest but I can't tell for sure. Something looks odd whilst something tells me it's good. Movement is real and case can be anything from real to aftermarket.

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