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sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 04:22 AM

Hi member,
Please beware of this member, he bought something from me and acknowledge receiving it.

Then filed a paypal dispute saying that the parts were not genuine. Yet I have pictures and texts from him showing me the parts in his possession and he got everything that was stated in the FS thread.

MonBK · 29 October 2016, 04:55 AM

Can you please elaborate some more?

sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Can you please elaborate some more?

Sure. So he bought the 116660 bezel kit I had for Sale.

Once it was delivered I followed up with him to see if everything made it safely. He replied saying yes he did. In fact sent me pictures of the bezel on his watch.

But then filed a claim with paypal saying the parts are not genuine and they don't fit. I think he is trying to fit this gen bezel on a fake replica

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WillOdling · 29 October 2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sachal007

Sure. So he bought the 116660 bezel kit I had for Sale.

Once it was delivered I followed up with him to see if everything made it safely. He replied saying yes he did. In fact sent me pictures of the bezel on his watch.

But then filed a claim with paypal saying the parts are not genuine and they don't fit. I think he is trying to fit this gen bezel on a fake replica

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In the text message he writes about the comparison and dissimilarity with a "gen" nylon and the other piece, I assume he's comparing to a fake

sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WillOdling

In the text message he writes about the comparison and dissimilarity with a "gen" and the other piece, I assume he's comparing to a fake

Yes he is.

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WillOdling · 29 October 2016, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sachal007

Yes he is.

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I see, pretty black and white now as I see it.

However let him fight his corner and defend himself by posting a good quality picture face on of his watch he is trying to fit it onto.

sleddog · 29 October 2016, 05:02 AM

I have PM'd the member in question, and asked for him to respond to this thread.

Sales thread.
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=502031

MonBK · 29 October 2016, 06:04 AM

Thanks for the explanation.

sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Thanks for the explanation.

Thank you

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nick c · 29 October 2016, 07:09 AM

Wow good luck

Photon · 29 October 2016, 06:20 AM

Without feeding into this bashing Sach is doing, In a nutshell Sach sold me a bezel with a damaged pearl. He also promised good fitment which was not the case. I asked to return and he got violent, threatening and rude. He told me to file a dispute, dared me to and in desperation I did. I was not going to post anything at all so as to not take part in a bad situation but what else can I do. I just want a refund, I even offered to cover shipping but he has refused and instead gone online to bash me.

sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Photon

Without feeding into this bashing Sach is doing, In a nutshell Sach sold me a bezel with a damaged pearl. He also promised good fitment which was not the case. I asked to return and he got violent, threatening and rude. He told me to file a dispute, dared me to and in desperation I did. I was not going to post anything at all so as to not take part in a bad situation but what else can I do. I just want a refund, I even offered to cover shipping but he has refused and instead gone online to bash me.

Are you trying to install the bezel on a replica?

You claim that the set I sold you is missing a piece, can you direct all the members here at what part were you expecting to get that wasn't included nor listed on the sales thread?

In regards to the bezel, all the pictures were sent to you and you saw these pictures on the listings as well.

Are you saying that you never saw these pictures? Can you share some pictures of ur gen deepsea watch and the gen bezel you got from me here?

@Photon

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imperio · 29 October 2016, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Photon

Without feeding into this bashing Sach is doing, In a nutshell Sach sold me a bezel with a damaged pearl. He also promised good fitment which was not the case. I asked to return and he got violent, threatening and rude. He told me to file a dispute, dared me to and in desperation I did. I was not going to post anything at all so as to not take part in a bad situation but what else can I do. I just want a refund, I even offered to cover shipping but he has refused and instead gone online to bash me.

Proof of this? The OP has posted text screenshots of your exchange to back his claims up.

Photon · 29 October 2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by imperio

Proof of this? The OP has posted text screenshots of your exchange to back his claims up.

Here is a pic he posted. You can see the damage. He did not disclose this damage to me.

Here is a pic that I took

sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Photon

Here is a pic he posted. You can see the damage. He did not disclose this damage to me.

Here is a pic that I took

man that is magnified. If you look closer you will see even the ceramic has some imperfections @POTUS.
It is not mirror smooth :D:D

If the pearl is the issue, why did you file a paypal dispute stating that you received a fake part and it didn't fit your gen case.

Can we see pictures of your gen deepsea?

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WillOdling · 29 October 2016, 10:06 AM

Repgeek? That's a replica forum, why is he called Dave Repgeek? Seems a bit strange......

sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 10:15 AM

what's this proper ring that you are talking about here? Now you have changed your story to a damaged pearl?

Please enlighten us

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sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 10:19 AM

@photon is accusing me of being violent and becoming threatening bcz he thinks he will get the sympathy vote.

He actually threatened that if I don't do what he wants he will call his credit card company and file a dispute and tell them that I sold him a fake part.

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imperio · 29 October 2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sachal007

He actually threatened that if I don't do what he wants he will call his credit card company and file a dispute and tell them that I sold him a fake part.

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Proof?

sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 10:26 AM

WillOdling · 29 October 2016, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sachal007

Contacting RWI, repgeek, rwg and Rolex forum? This is kinda weird. Why all the references to fake forums?

sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WillOdling

Contacting RWI, repgeek, rwg and Rolex forum? This is kinda weird. Why all the references to fake forums?

Well now that you ask, he is on all those forums. What does that change? I did search him as he had barely any activity here.

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imperio · 29 October 2016, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sachal007

@photon is accusing me of being violent and becoming threatening bcz he thinks he will get the sympathy vote.

He actually threatened that if I don't do what he wants he will call his credit card company and file a dispute and tell them that I sold him a fake part.

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Where is proof of this threat?

77T · 29 October 2016, 10:41 AM

If the parts are genuine, and the buyer returned them in same condition they went out, why not a refund?

My 2¢ - when I sell a damaged part, I clearly disclose it...

sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

If the parts are genuine, and the buyer returned them in same condition they went out, why not a refund?

My 2¢ - when I sell a damaged part, I clearly disclose it...

Because there is a lot of fraud. What if he returns me a fake part or returns a broken piece?

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77T · 29 October 2016, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sachal007

Because there is a lot of fraud. What if he returns me a fake part or returns a broken piece?

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If he returned a different part then you wouldn't refund the money of course. I mentioned "in the same condition".

Could you elaborate on why the damage wasn't disclosed in your listing? I get that the damage was in the photo.

WillOdling · 29 October 2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

If the parts are genuine, and the buyer returned them in same condition they went out, why not a refund?

My 2¢ - when I sell a damaged part, I clearly disclose it...

I agree with full disclosure.

I also suspect the bezel was intended for installation onto a fake - otherwise why all the references to fake forums and the guy is stored on his phone as "Dave repgeek" (repgeek being a fake watch forum)

my 2c

sachal007 · 29 October 2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WillOdling

I agree with full disclosure.

I also suspect the bezel was intended for installation onto a fake - otherwise why all the references to fake forums and the guy is stored on his phone as "Dave repgeek" (repgeek being a fake watch forum)

my 2c

Just to that point I can't guarantee fitment of gen pieces on non gen watches.
The buyer is claiming that it's missing a ring yet wouldn't post what piece is missing from my initial sales thread.

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WillOdling · 29 October 2016, 12:04 PM

He tried to fit a genuine assembly onto a junk fake watch (why I have no idea) that's like putting lipstick on a pig lol

crowncollection · 29 October 2016, 01:27 PM

Looks like a case of a faker trying to add an original part to a fake, it didn't work.

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29 October 2016, 04:22 AM	#1
sachal007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Sachal Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Hulk/BLNR/D-Sea Posts: 294	Beware of Photon - Bought parts and filed a Paypal Dispute Hi member, Please beware of this member, he bought something from me and acknowledge receiving it. Then filed a paypal dispute saying that the parts were not genuine. Yet I have pictures and texts from him showing me the parts in his possession and he got everything that was stated in the FS thread.

29 October 2016, 05:02 AM	#7
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	I have PM'd the member in question, and asked for him to respond to this thread. Sales thread. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=502031 __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

29 October 2016, 10:41 AM	#24
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	If the parts are genuine, and the buyer returned them in same condition they went out, why not a refund? My 2¢ - when I sell a damaged part, I clearly disclose it... __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

29 October 2016, 01:27 PM	#30
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Looks like a case of a faker trying to add an original part to a fake, it didn't work. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

29 October 2016, 04:55 AM	#2
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Can you please elaborate some more?

29 October 2016, 06:04 AM	#8
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Thanks for the explanation.

29 October 2016, 07:09 AM	#10
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Wow good luck

29 October 2016, 06:20 AM	#11
Photon Banned Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Switzerland Posts: 11	Without feeding into this bashing Sach is doing, In a nutshell Sach sold me a bezel with a damaged pearl. He also promised good fitment which was not the case. I asked to return and he got violent, threatening and rude. He told me to file a dispute, dared me to and in desperation I did. I was not going to post anything at all so as to not take part in a bad situation but what else can I do. I just want a refund, I even offered to cover shipping but he has refused and instead gone online to bash me.

29 October 2016, 10:06 AM	#16
WillOdling "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Miami Posts: 113	Repgeek? That's a replica forum, why is he called Dave Repgeek? Seems a bit strange......

29 October 2016, 10:15 AM	#17
sachal007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Sachal Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Hulk/BLNR/D-Sea Posts: 294	what's this proper ring that you are talking about here? Now you have changed your story to a damaged pearl? Please enlighten us Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

29 October 2016, 10:19 AM	#18
sachal007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Sachal Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Hulk/BLNR/D-Sea Posts: 294	@photon is accusing me of being violent and becoming threatening bcz he thinks he will get the sympathy vote. He actually threatened that if I don't do what he wants he will call his credit card company and file a dispute and tell them that I sold him a fake part. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

29 October 2016, 10:26 AM	#20
sachal007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Sachal Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Hulk/BLNR/D-Sea Posts: 294

29 October 2016, 12:04 PM	#29
WillOdling "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Miami Posts: 113	He tried to fit a genuine assembly onto a junk fake watch (why I have no idea) that's like putting lipstick on a pig lol

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