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SC11 · 27 January 2017, 02:12 AM

Be easy on an AP newbie! So nearly stepped into AP with a 15400 but decided against it for various reasons but mainly not a fan of them once they have picked up a few marks!

So here I am again

trying to get an AP into the fold.

Toyed with the idea of getting a Ceramic diver a year or so ago but at the time it would of meant selling off most of my collection, well this isn't the case now but guess as it's discontinued sourcing one is going to be the issue.

texex91 · 27 January 2017, 02:26 AM

Maybe grab 44mm instead and wait for the new SIHH release?

Not sure what your question is exactly, but if it's will 15707 will hard to source...no.

Just depends on what you want to pay, THEN that answer may change.

SC11 · 27 January 2017, 02:36 AM

I've reached out to a couple of people I've dealt with and none have any available, the ceramic was never sold in the U.K so my only avenue would be through a connection on here or chrono24 (which I not a fan of)

To be totally honest most of the AP collection is out of my price range, looking at low 20's so 22-23 which would still require one of my current collection going but not over stretching myself.

SIHH has sparked some interest however I do prefer the feel of the 42mm over the 44mm Not a fan of the new ceramic ROO much prefer the older model but then I do really like the Ti, issue here is that would be stretch for me unfortunately.

texex91 · 27 January 2017, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

I've reached out to a couple of people I've dealt with and none have any available, the ceramic was never sold in the U.K so my only avenue would be through a connection on here or chrono24 (which I not a fan of)

To be totally honest most of the AP collection is out of my price range, looking at low 20's so 22-23 which would still require one of my current collection going but not over stretching myself.

SIHH has sparked some interest however I do prefer the feel of the 42mm over the 44mm Not a fan of the new ceramic ROO much prefer the older model but then I do really like the Ti, issue here is that would be stretch for me unfortunately.

Understood.

New Ti 44 is only $30k retail which means you might be able to get at $24k with good relationship...which puts right in your budget. What is not ideal is the wait time.

Certainly something to think about.

Can't go wrong with any of your choices.

SC11 · 27 January 2017, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Understood.

New Ti 44 is only $30k retail which means you might be able to get at $24k with good relationship...which puts right in your budget. What is not ideal is the wait time.

Certainly something to think about.

Can't go wrong with any of your choices.

Really right ok you can tell I've been buying SS Rolex models for too long I didn't expect any real movement in price

texex91 · 27 January 2017, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

Really right ok you can tell I've been buying SS Rolex models for too long I didn't expect any real movement in price

Notice the highlighted part--especially key on new release.

Good luck with the hunt and look forward to incoming

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Originally Posted by texex91

New Ti 44 is only $30k retail which means you might be able to get at $24k with good relationship...which puts right in your budget. What is not ideal is the wait time.

SC11 · 27 January 2017, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Notice the highlighted part--especially key on new release.

Good luck with the hunt and look forward to incoming

Oh yes very true

Tomas Eriksson · 27 January 2017, 03:27 AM

Happy hunting. I got my 15707 at the end of last year and it didn't come cheap... but it was LNIB but it's one or maybe the last one made (I have done extensive research and got the individual numbers for many pieces). Hope you find one, I love mine

SC11 · 27 January 2017, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomas Eriksson

Happy hunting. I got my 15707 at the end of last year and it didn't come cheap... but it was LNIB but it's one or maybe the last one made (I have done extensive research and got the individual numbers for many pieces). Hope you find one, I love mine

If you don't mind me asking what did you pay, as being in the UK ideally I'd like to source one from the EU

Tomas Eriksson · 27 January 2017, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

If you don't mind me asking what did you pay, as being in the UK ideally I'd like to source one from the EU

20k GBP. Or maybe not 100% true, I got a very good trade in on a Rolex DD. I maybe overpaid, but it spoke to me and I just had to have it.

PJ S · 27 January 2017, 04:42 AM

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/audemarsp...-id5269441.htm
https://www.luxuryfreeshop.com/watch...a002ca-01.html

SC11 · 27 January 2017, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PJ S

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/audemarsp...-id5269441.htm
https://www.luxuryfreeshop.com/watch...a002ca-01.html

Thank you but all US based so add 20% give it take onto the pricing!

Quite a few on Chrono are advertised but not available!

lapince · 27 January 2017, 05:41 AM

Well I ain't selling mine, that's sure, but contact the adds and serious grey dealers saying you want one, maybe you'll be lucky, about new it's ceramic so they should look new even if not, but I think it will be expensive getting one, few made and people seem to wanna keep them. Good luck

PJ S · 27 January 2017, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

Thank you but all US based so add 20% give it take onto the pricing!

It’s the same seller – why not phone, have a chat about what they can do on the price, etc.

AK797 · 27 January 2017, 06:10 AM

Official Watches and Luxe Watches plus WF ofc are the biggest dealers in used APs so I'd keep in touch with them, maybe a LNIB condition one will turn up.

jem7v · 27 January 2017, 07:01 AM

I am surprised AP is not continuing the ceramic diver. I'd love one with blue in the dial instead of orange.

lapince · 27 January 2017, 07:35 AM

This is a watch which I knew would cost more after some time, low production and high demand from the start

jem7v · 27 January 2017, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lapince

This is a watch which I knew would cost more after some time, low production and high demand from the start

I see them around 21-22k. Not sure it's gone up yet. But hey 2k off retail for the used market is pretty much like a daytona or nautilus.

If AP makes another one, used values will plummet.

lapince · 28 January 2017, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

I see them around 21-22k. Not sure it's gone up yet. But hey 2k off retail for the used market is pretty much like a daytona or nautilus.

If AP makes another one, used values will plummet.

You are right, I forgot I got 10 points off mine plus 15 points from tax refund, which makes an awesome price

SC11 · 29 January 2017, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Official Watches and Luxe Watches plus WF ofc are the biggest dealers in used APs so I'd keep in touch with them, maybe a LNIB condition one will turn up.

I have reached out to a few but most aren't hopeful of getting one in, a couple wouldn't even take my details and just said keep an eye of their website

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Originally Posted by jem7v

I am surprised AP is not continuing the ceramic diver. I'd love one with blue in the dial instead of orange.

With the lastest releases its clear they are not moving away from ceramic but maybe holding it for the higher priced models, even if the new Ti and ceramic ROO seem reasonably priced (if there is such a thing in this market)

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Originally Posted by PJ S

It’s the same seller – why not phone, have a chat about what they can do on the price, etc.

Will do

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Originally Posted by jem7v

I see them around 21-22k. Not sure it's gone up yet. But hey 2k off retail for the used market is pretty much like a daytona or nautilus.

If AP makes another one, used values will plummet.

Granted I'm new to AP but they do seem to have produced quite a few variations of the diver of late mainly colours but wonder if they will add materials to that?

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Originally Posted by mickyd329

Maybe look at a 44 FC for that price range pre-owned?

Ceramic ROO is an option and so is the new Ti model but the price is slightly out of my range and I do prefer the over look of the 42mm diver without the pushers and increased case size!

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Originally Posted by @tsw@

Hi Sam.

There is a forum member at MWF that is finding a home for his ceramic diver at usd17600.

http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/in...?topic=17120.0

You can check it out.

Thank you for the heads up

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Originally Posted by lapince

You are right, I forgot I got 10 points off mine plus 15 points from tax refund, which makes an awesome price

That's it rub it in

How did you managed the refund as you are in France and if I'm right purchased it from the Paris Boutique?

PJ S · 29 January 2017, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SC11

Will don

Good man…and don’t call me Don.

lapince · 29 January 2017, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SC11

That's it rub it in

How did you managed the refund as you are in France and if I'm right purchased it from the Paris Boutique?

Well I was in France but was spending more time in Odessa, where I am now, so I had the special card for french citizens abroad, and could make the detax

mickyd329 · 28 January 2017, 02:17 PM

Maybe look at a 44 FC for that price range pre-owned?

@tsw@ · 28 January 2017, 04:02 PM

Hi Sam.

There is a forum member at MWF that is finding a home for his ceramic diver at usd17600.

http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/in...?topic=17120.0

You can check it out.

SC11 · 29 January 2017, 11:32 PM

Moving forward and so different AP advice, quoting US as that where I've got most of the info from

The current ceramic ROO hasn't been listed as discontinued and retails at around $42,000 but can be from TS's for around $32,000 BNIB

Now the newly released ceramic ROO (which I'm not keen on) is listed to be at a retail of $32,100

Do you think the current version will be discontinued or even reduced in price as it seem odd AP would sell two variants of the same model priced $10,000 apart?

Or am missing something?!

lapince · 30 January 2017, 12:25 AM

Wait the old ceramic is at retail 42k, which is too much IMHO, shouldn't cost 20 more than the CE diver, and the new one is at 32k? How is that even possible???

texex91 · 30 January 2017, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lapince

Wait the old ceramic is at retail 42k, which is too much IMHO, shouldn't cost 20 more than the CE diver, and the new one is at 32k? How is that even possible???

Lapince, it is worth it. Keep in mind not only is the 44mm ROO case size larger, it's a chrono as well.

SC11 · 30 January 2017, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Lapince, it is worth it. Keep in mind not only is the 44mm ROO case size larger, it's a chrono as well.

Had the ceramic ROO next to the ceramic diver and they are totally different beasts!

Just don't get the 10k between the same model?!

jem7v · 30 January 2017, 12:50 AM

People the anthracite ROO is discontinued. It's been confirmed by the boutique's and ADs. But it will not drop in price as far as retail. Whether it drops second hand even lower than it is currently has yet to be seen.

So far people are still paying the same price for it as before irregardless of the new one being much cheaper.

SC11 · 30 January 2017, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

People the anthracite ROO is discontinued. It's been confirmed by the boutique's and ADs. But it will not drop in price as far as retail. Whether it drops second hand even lower than it is currently has yet to be seen.

So far people are still paying the same price for it as before irregardless of the new one being much cheaper.

Well that answers my question

27 January 2017, 02:12 AM	#1
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	Chances of locating a BNIB or LNIB 15707CE Be easy on an AP newbie! So nearly stepped into AP with a 15400 but decided against it for various reasons but mainly not a fan of them once they have picked up a few marks! So here I am again trying to get an AP into the fold. Toyed with the idea of getting a Ceramic diver a year or so ago but at the time it would of meant selling off most of my collection, well this isn't the case now but guess as it's discontinued sourcing one is going to be the issue.

27 January 2017, 03:27 AM	#8
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 2,027	Happy hunting. I got my 15707 at the end of last year and it didn't come cheap... but it was LNIB but it's one or maybe the last one made (I have done extensive research and got the individual numbers for many pieces). Hope you find one, I love mine __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

28 January 2017, 02:17 PM	#23
mickyd329 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Socal Watch: AP/PP/Rolex Posts: 2,052	Maybe look at a 44 FC for that price range pre-owned? __________________ PP 5205G-013/ PP 5212A / AP 15416CE /26574 st QP/ AP 50th 16202st /AP 15500st Black / AP 26405CE / AP 77350CE / AP 15551st / AP 67540sk / Rolex 116500 Panda / Rolex 126710 BLRO / Rolex 126610LV Green / Rolex 16570 Black/ Rolex 116300 Blue / Rolex 126710 BLNR / Rolex 126710 GRNR

27 January 2017, 02:26 AM	#2
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Maybe grab 44mm instead and wait for the new SIHH release? Not sure what your question is exactly, but if it's will 15707 will hard to source...no. Just depends on what you want to pay, THEN that answer may change.

27 January 2017, 02:36 AM	#3
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	I've reached out to a couple of people I've dealt with and none have any available, the ceramic was never sold in the U.K so my only avenue would be through a connection on here or chrono24 (which I not a fan of) To be totally honest most of the AP collection is out of my price range, looking at low 20's so 22-23 which would still require one of my current collection going but not over stretching myself. SIHH has sparked some interest however I do prefer the feel of the 42mm over the 44mm Not a fan of the new ceramic ROO much prefer the older model but then I do really like the Ti, issue here is that would be stretch for me unfortunately.

27 January 2017, 04:42 AM	#11
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	https://www.chrono24.co.uk/audemarsp...-id5269441.htm https://www.luxuryfreeshop.com/watch...a002ca-01.html

27 January 2017, 05:41 AM	#13
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Well I ain't selling mine, that's sure, but contact the adds and serious grey dealers saying you want one, maybe you'll be lucky, about new it's ceramic so they should look new even if not, but I think it will be expensive getting one, few made and people seem to wanna keep them. Good luck

27 January 2017, 06:10 AM	#15
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Official Watches and Luxe Watches plus WF ofc are the biggest dealers in used APs so I'd keep in touch with them, maybe a LNIB condition one will turn up.

27 January 2017, 07:01 AM	#16
jem7v Banned Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 842	I am surprised AP is not continuing the ceramic diver. I'd love one with blue in the dial instead of orange.

27 January 2017, 07:35 AM	#17
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	This is a watch which I knew would cost more after some time, low production and high demand from the start

28 January 2017, 04:02 PM	#24
@tsw@ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Wei Location: Malaysia Watch: Nut Posts: 10	Hi Sam. There is a forum member at MWF that is finding a home for his ceramic diver at usd17600. http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/in...?topic=17120.0 You can check it out.

29 January 2017, 11:32 PM	#25
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	Moving forward and so different AP advice, quoting US as that where I've got most of the info from The current ceramic ROO hasn't been listed as discontinued and retails at around $42,000 but can be from TS's for around $32,000 BNIB Now the newly released ceramic ROO (which I'm not keen on) is listed to be at a retail of $32,100 Do you think the current version will be discontinued or even reduced in price as it seem odd AP would sell two variants of the same model priced $10,000 apart? Or am missing something?!

30 January 2017, 12:25 AM	#26
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Wait the old ceramic is at retail 42k, which is too much IMHO, shouldn't cost 20 more than the CE diver, and the new one is at 32k? How is that even possible???

30 January 2017, 12:50 AM	#29
jem7v Banned Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 842	People the anthracite ROO is discontinued. It's been confirmed by the boutique's and ADs. But it will not drop in price as far as retail. Whether it drops second hand even lower than it is currently has yet to be seen. So far people are still paying the same price for it as before irregardless of the new one being much cheaper.

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