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Bouddha · 7 February 2017, 08:30 PM

Hello all,

I am new to this forum but also hopefully soon to AP!
I am about to buy my first piece and was hesitating between the 15400 or a 15710.

I have a little preference for a 15400 as of now, but was wondering which one is the most versatile?

Also, what are the typical discount I can hope for these watches?

rgds

MrGMT · 7 February 2017, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouddha

Hello all,

I am new to this forum but also hopefully soon to AP!
I am about to buy my first piece and was hesitating between the 15400 or a 15710.

I have a little preference for a 15400 as of now, but was wondering which one is the most versatile?

Also, what are the typical discount I can hope for these watches?

rgds

I was looking at he same two models myself slightly favouring the 15400 but when I tried both on the 15710 diver blew me away and was surprised how much I liked it. So best to try both on and what one you like best.

kaiserphoenix · 7 February 2017, 10:17 PM

Same. For some reason the 15400 felt BIGGER. I know its a strange thing to say but the 15710 whilst is a heavy watch, is very balanced and sits really snug, I love mine. Just feel the Royal oak is the classic at 39mm. But thats just me.

masyv6 · 8 February 2017, 12:12 AM

Both are very good. I think the 15400 is more versatile than the 15710, however.

Just buy both

Bouddha · 8 February 2017, 12:42 AM

Thank you all for your responses. I also start to believe the 15400 is more versatile...
Especially as I already own a Panerai & a Chopard Mille Miglia and none of them have a stainlessS bracelet.

Any idea window what % discount should I receive for a 15400?

MrGMT · 8 February 2017, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bouddha

Thank you all for your responses. I also start to believe the 15400 is more versatile...
Especially as I already own a Panerai & a Chopard Mille Miglia and none of them have a stainlessS bracelet.

Any idea window what % discount should I receive for a 15400?

20% minimum

SC11 · 8 February 2017, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MrGMT

20% minimum

20% from where?

MrGMT · 8 February 2017, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

20% from where?

Your in the uk I see at least 3 dealers on chrono24 dong 20-22% off the 15400 and also the 15710 and that was just a quick search

SC11 · 8 February 2017, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MrGMT

Your in the uk I see at least 3 dealers on chrono24 dong 20-22% off the 15400 and also the 15710 and that was just a quick search

Ok you wasn't clear on where from, chrono24 etc then yes but I wouldn't say it 20% min more like 20 or so at max! The majority are 10-15%

jem7v · 8 February 2017, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

20% from where?

Anywhere except a boutique.

SC11 · 8 February 2017, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

Anywhere except a boutique.

Not at a UK AD but I'd love to be proved wrong!

Greys have a few around 20% but the majority are 10-15% for BNIB

anothernewphone · 8 February 2017, 01:05 AM

The 15400 is definitely more versatile, but you definitely need to try both on. The 15400 is thinner, but wears large still. The Diver is chunkier, but I feel like it wears its size a little better on my smaller wrist.

kaiserphoenix · 8 February 2017, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by anothernewphone

The 15400 is definitely more versatile, but you definitely need to try both on. The 15400 is thinner, but wears large still. The Diver is chunkier, but I feel like it wears its size a little better on my smaller wrist.

Strange right? I had the same experience. My wrist is thin and the 15400 looked big but the diver seems to fit so comfy even tho its so chunky and heavy.

Peterandwatches · 8 February 2017, 08:56 AM

I think the 15400 is a bit more versatile, as it strikes a good balance between sporty and dressy.

Bouddha · 8 February 2017, 11:14 PM

Thanks all for your responses.
I am still struggling to decide.... :-)
Also, I am now wondering why is the 15710 a little more expensive than a 15400 while on a rubber strap ?
It has the same calibre so, I dont believe the casing of the 15710 is more expensive or is it?

rgds

jem7v · 8 February 2017, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouddha

Thanks all for your responses.
I am still struggling to decide.... :-)
Also, I am now wondering why is the 15710 a little more expensive than a 15400 while on a rubber strap ?
It has the same calibre so, I dont believe the casing of the 15710 is more expensive or is it?

rgds

It's more expensive because it's a ROO and AP chose to make it more expensive. Don't think too hard on it. I would do the 15400 easily over a basic diver. I really think the diver is a boring looking watch except the FC and CE versions. CE being the better one :).

Definitely go with the 15400 over a steel diver.

gummy · 9 February 2017, 01:47 AM

As a first AP I lean Diver...

SMD · 9 February 2017, 02:01 AM

The answer is always both.

psv · 9 February 2017, 02:04 AM

I prefer the 15300 size/fit of the Royal Oak over the 15400 so I would go with the 15710.

Tomas Eriksson · 10 February 2017, 03:14 AM

I would go 15400, the bracelet is magic. No one except AP does anything like it. I have both a 15400 and a ce diver... Regards to 15300 comments, I prefer 15400, no 15300 has the double stick 12-index. And yes... I have worn a few 15300 and I do understand the critical some has regards to bezel proportions... The 15400 is nicer than 15300.

Bouddha · 10 February 2017, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomas Eriksson

I would go 15400, the bracelet is magic. No one except AP does anything like it. I have both a 15400 and a ce diver... Regards to 15300 comments, I prefer 15400, no 15300 has the double stick 12-index. And yes... I have worn a few 15300 and I do understand the critical some has regards to bezel proportions... The 15400 is nicer than 15300.

Owning a Panerai PAM312 and a Chopard Mille Miglia, I currently tend to favor the 15400 as the 2 others are thicker and less of a dress watch.
Not having these 2 maybe the 15710 would have been a good choice.

I am actually more thinking of the 15400 with the black dial... why would some prefer the blue dial ? Does it play as well with light than the black dial?

Rgds

jem7v · 25 March 2017, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouddha

Owning a Panerai PAM312 and a Chopard Mille Miglia, I currently tend to favor the 15400 as the 2 others are thicker and less of a dress watch.
Not having these 2 maybe the 15710 would have been a good choice.

I am actually more thinking of the 15400 with the black dial... why would some prefer the blue dial ? Does it play as well with light than the black dial?

Rgds

People are just obsessed with blue because that is the original color of the RO.

GB-man · 25 March 2017, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jem7v

People are just obsessed with blue because that is the original color of the RO.

In all fairness the blue definitely has more range than the black, and I've owned the black.

AK797 · 10 February 2017, 04:18 AM

My first was a Diver and I loved it but now I'd probably go with the bracelet and if the blue dial then no question.

taxidriver · 25 March 2017, 05:21 PM

My choice ✌️

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brettpaul · 26 March 2017, 12:30 AM

....any color is good as long as it's BLUE! 💙

Xerxes77 · 28 March 2017, 03:42 AM

Diver

Phaedrus29 · 29 March 2017, 02:07 PM

Easy solution, Diver on bracelet ;)

7 February 2017, 08:30 PM	#1
Bouddha "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Switzerland Posts: 26	Going to acquire my first AP a 15400 or 15710 Hello all, I am new to this forum but also hopefully soon to AP! I am about to buy my first piece and was hesitating between the 15400 or a 15710. I have a little preference for a 15400 as of now, but was wondering which one is the most versatile? Also, what are the typical discount I can hope for these watches? rgds

7 February 2017, 10:17 PM	#3
kaiserphoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London/Tokyo Watch: FPJ CO BL Posts: 1,709	Same. For some reason the 15400 felt BIGGER. I know its a strange thing to say but the 15710 whilst is a heavy watch, is very balanced and sits really snug, I love mine. Just feel the Royal oak is the classic at 39mm. But thats just me. __________________ F.P.Journe Chronometre Optimum Black Label, Patek 5811G-001, Patek 5968A-001, Patek 5167A-001 IG: tokyo_watch_guy

10 February 2017, 03:14 AM	#20
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 2,027	I would go 15400, the bracelet is magic. No one except AP does anything like it. I have both a 15400 and a ce diver... Regards to 15300 comments, I prefer 15400, no 15300 has the double stick 12-index. And yes... I have worn a few 15300 and I do understand the critical some has regards to bezel proportions... The 15400 is nicer than 15300. __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

26 March 2017, 12:30 AM	#26
brettpaul "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Brett Location: Bahrain, Dubai Watch: Rolex and AP Posts: 5,538	15400.... ....any color is good as long as it's BLUE! 💙 Attached Images __________________ Photostream on Instagram brett_in_bahrain

8 February 2017, 12:12 AM	#4
masyv6 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: 35000ft Posts: 3,771	Both are very good. I think the 15400 is more versatile than the 15710, however. Just buy both

8 February 2017, 12:42 AM	#5
Bouddha "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Switzerland Posts: 26	Thank you all for your responses. I also start to believe the 15400 is more versatile... Especially as I already own a Panerai & a Chopard Mille Miglia and none of them have a stainlessS bracelet. Any idea window what % discount should I receive for a 15400?

8 February 2017, 01:05 AM	#12
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	The 15400 is definitely more versatile, but you definitely need to try both on. The 15400 is thinner, but wears large still. The Diver is chunkier, but I feel like it wears its size a little better on my smaller wrist.

8 February 2017, 08:56 AM	#14
Peterandwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: WA Watch: 5167/15400/Sub/JLC Posts: 1,023	I think the 15400 is a bit more versatile, as it strikes a good balance between sporty and dressy.

8 February 2017, 11:14 PM	#15
Bouddha "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Switzerland Posts: 26	Thanks all for your responses. I am still struggling to decide.... :-) Also, I am now wondering why is the 15710 a little more expensive than a 15400 while on a rubber strap ? It has the same calibre so, I dont believe the casing of the 15710 is more expensive or is it? rgds

9 February 2017, 01:47 AM	#17
gummy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,348	As a first AP I lean Diver...

9 February 2017, 02:01 AM	#18
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,701	The answer is always both.

9 February 2017, 02:04 AM	#19
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	I prefer the 15300 size/fit of the Royal Oak over the 15400 so I would go with the 15710.

10 February 2017, 04:18 AM	#24
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	My first was a Diver and I loved it but now I'd probably go with the bracelet and if the blue dial then no question.

25 March 2017, 05:21 PM	#25
taxidriver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: philippines Posts: 291	My choice ✌️ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 March 2017, 03:42 AM	#27
Xerxes77 Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Home! Posts: 3,307	Diver

29 March 2017, 02:07 PM	#28
Phaedrus29 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: PA Posts: 74	Easy solution, Diver on bracelet ;)

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