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Old 5 March 2017, 05:48 AM   #1
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1601 dial. Refurbished or not?
What do you guys say? Looks original and not refurbished or repainted or anything like that? Pretty interested if it's original and untouched...
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Old 5 March 2017, 03:19 PM   #2
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Bump with more pics added:
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Old 5 March 2017, 04:33 PM   #3
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BADLY refinished.
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It is a known issue that all of the SubC and GMTIIC's movement have reliability issues. Something to do with a spring that was introduced. I expect this to further increase the value of older Submariners and GMTIIs.
Heck why can't I start my own internet rumor and raise the prices of MY WATCHES!!!!
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Old 5 March 2017, 05:08 PM   #4
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Is it that bad?
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Old 5 March 2017, 05:54 PM   #6
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The original black pie-pan dial is all one / single tone black paint.
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Old 5 March 2017, 06:20 PM   #7
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The original black pie-pan dial is all one / single tone black paint.
Okay...can it be the lighting that makes the dial looks like it has different color tones?

Are the letters also badly refinished?
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Old 5 March 2017, 06:43 PM   #8
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Okay...can it be the lighting that makes the dial looks like it has different color tones?

Are the letters also badly refinished?
The original dial has a smooth paint tone and none of the crappy fibers that you see with this one.

The letters are all sloppy and they don't even line up evenly....so yeah they BADLY refinished!!!

The luminous dots on this dial are touching the hour markers where they SHOULDN'T. On original dial, the luminous dots are on the pie-pan rim part of the dial and so obviously they don't touch the hour markers.
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Old 5 March 2017, 07:01 PM   #9
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The original dial has a smooth paint tone and none of the crappy fibers that you see with this one.

The letters are all sloppy and they don't even line up evenly....so yeah they BADLY refinished!!!

The luminous dots on this dial are touching the hour markers where they SHOULDN'T. On original dial, the luminous dots are on the pie-pan rim part of the dial and so obviously they don't touch the hour markers.
Thanks a lot!
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