Tiffany Dial Rolex

[Jcy90]

When and why did these uniquely stamped dials cease to exist?!

[Tools]

It is said that Rolex told Tiffany to stop stamping their dials.

[Jcy90]

Originally Posted by Tools

It is said that Rolex told Tiffany to stop stamping their dials.

So unfortunate

[Tony-GB]

Originally Posted by Jcy90

When and why did these uniquely stamped dials cease to exist?!

Hi everyone

Could anyone tell me when and why did these uniquely stamped dials cease to exist please?

Thanks

Manners cost nothing.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

Hi everyone

Could anyone tell me when and why did these uniquely stamped dials cease to exist please?

Thanks

Manners cost nothing.

In the very early years of the [RWC] now Rolex only about 1 in 5 watches had the name Rolex on the Dial,the rest were blank when they left the factory.This was because the various retailers could put there own name on dials.But after the arrival of the oyster case very late 1920s most of the oyster cased ones did have the name Rolex on the dial.But after the oyster type case was introduced only a few retail companies were still allowed to put there names on the dial, like Cartier,Goldsmiths,Asprey, Bucherer plus a few more.Tiffany was the final last store retailers name to ever to be seen on a Rolex dial very early 1990s. And now any genuine Tiffany named Rolex with provenance but its mainly sports models like the like subs Daytona etc can command quite high prices.

Today its somewhat ironic that after around 90 years of some different retailers' names on many Rolex dials. The only one that was left was a company who do did not ever sell watches,and that's Comex.Now the rarest Rolex co-branded watches could be the Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 Daytona from the late 1980s into early 1990s.Its funny how something other than the Rolex name makes it very very expensive and desirable to collectors.But in today's Rolex market for every genuine one, there are quite a few faked ones and the only real way to check is direct with Rolex.Now there were a few black dialled S, N, T and W serial Daytona's Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 ,which had a manufacturing defect. The colour of the sub-dials faded to brown or like a chocolate colour,very similar to the defect from the late 1980s early 1990s that turned the TT Blue Subs dial more of a purple blue colour.Now today some are asking silly money for these watch and now very desirable to many collectors.But for myself not my cup of tea at all, would much rather any of the very early Chronographs, Rolex Subs or GMT watches.

[KBM]

Originally Posted by padi56

In the very early years of the [RWC] now Rolex only about 1 in 5 watches had the name Rolex on the Dial,the rest were blank when they left the factory.This was because the various retailers could put there own name on dials.But after the arrival of the oyster case very late 1920s most of the oyster cased ones did have the name Rolex on the dial.But after the oyster type case was introduced only a few retail companies were still allowed to put there names on the dial, like Cartier,Goldsmiths,Asprey, Bucherer plus a few more.Tiffany was the final last store retailers name to ever to be seen on a Rolex dial very early 1990s. And now any genuine Tiffany named Rolex with provenance but its mainly sports models like the like subs Daytona etc can command quite high prices.

Today its somewhat ironic that after around 90 years of some different retailers' names on many Rolex dials. The only one that was left was a company who do did not ever sell watches,and that's Comex.Now the rarest Rolex co-branded watches could be the Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 Daytona from the late 1980s into early 1990s.Its funny how something other than the Rolex name makes it very very expensive and desirable to collectors.But in today's Rolex market for every genuine one, there are quite a few faked ones and the only real way to check is direct with Rolex.Now there were a few black dialled S, N, T and W serial Daytona's Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 ,which had a manufacturing defect. The colour of the sub-dials faded to brown or like a chocolate colour,very similar to the defect from the late 1980s early 1990s that turned the TT Blue Subs dial more of a purple blue colour.Now today some are asking silly money for these watch and now very desirable to many collectors.But for myself not my cup of tea at all, would much rather any of the very early Chronographs, Rolex Subs or GMT watches.

Great post, Padi!

[Jcy90]

Originally Posted by padi56

In the very early years of the [RWC] now Rolex only about 1 in 5 watches had the name Rolex on the Dial,the rest were blank when they left the factory.This was because the various retailers could put there own name on dials.But after the arrival of the oyster case very late 1920s most of the oyster cased ones did have the name Rolex on the dial.But after the oyster type case was introduced only a few retail companies were still allowed to put there names on the dial, like Cartier,Goldsmiths,Asprey, Bucherer plus a few more.Tiffany was the final last store retailers name to ever to be seen on a Rolex dial very early 1990s. And now any genuine Tiffany named Rolex with provenance but its mainly sports models like the like subs Daytona etc can command quite high prices.

Today its somewhat ironic that after around 90 years of some different retailers' names on many Rolex dials. The only one that was left was a company who do did not ever sell watches,and that's Comex.Now the rarest Rolex co-branded watches could be the Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 Daytona from the late 1980s into early 1990s.Its funny how something other than the Rolex name makes it very very expensive and desirable to collectors.But in today's Rolex market for every genuine one, there are quite a few faked ones and the only real way to check is direct with Rolex.Now there were a few black dialled S, N, T and W serial Daytona's Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 ,which had a manufacturing defect. The colour of the sub-dials faded to brown or like a chocolate colour,very similar to the defect from the late 1980s early 1990s that turned the TT Blue Subs dial more of a purple blue colour.Now today some are asking silly money for these watch and now very desirable to many collectors.But for myself not my cup of tea at all, would much rather any of the very early Chronographs, Rolex Subs or GMT watches.

Amazing. Thank you sir!

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by padi56

In the very early years of the [RWC] now Rolex only about 1 in 5 watches had the name Rolex on the Dial,the rest were blank when they left the factory.This was because the various retailers could put there own name on dials.But after the arrival of the oyster case very late 1920s most of the oyster cased ones did have the name Rolex on the dial.But after the oyster type case was introduced only a few retail companies were still allowed to put there names on the dial, like Cartier,Goldsmiths,Asprey, Bucherer plus a few more.Tiffany was the final last store retailers name to ever to be seen on a Rolex dial very early 1990s. And now any genuine Tiffany named Rolex with provenance but its mainly sports models like the like subs Daytona etc can command quite high prices.

Today its somewhat ironic that after around 90 years of some different retailers' names on many Rolex dials. The only one that was left was a company who do did not ever sell watches,and that's Comex.Now the rarest Rolex co-branded watches could be the Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 Daytona from the late 1980s into early 1990s.Its funny how something other than the Rolex name makes it very very expensive and desirable to collectors.But in today's Rolex market for every genuine one, there are quite a few faked ones and the only real way to check is direct with Rolex.Now there were a few black dialled S, N, T and W serial Daytona's Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 ,which had a manufacturing defect. The colour of the sub-dials faded to brown or like a chocolate colour,very similar to the defect from the late 1980s early 1990s that turned the TT Blue Subs dial more of a purple blue colour.Now today some are asking silly money for these watch and now very desirable to many collectors.But for myself not my cup of tea at all, would much rather any of the very early Chronographs, Rolex Subs or GMT watches.

Wow!!!! Now that's the ticket !!

[blue16613]

Great!

Nice to learn something and a welcome relief from "A friend's dog drooled on my sister's Rolex and my stepmother wants me to ask the Forum if she could get rabies."

[sknicks]

Originally Posted by blue16613

Great!

Nice to learn something and a welcome relief from "A friend's dog drooled on my sister's Rolex and my stepmother wants me to ask the Forum if she could get rabies."

but nothing will ever beat the "trampoline" post from other day...

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by padi56

In the very early years of the [RWC] now Rolex only about 1 in 5 watches had the name Rolex on the Dial,the rest were blank when they left the factory.This was because the various retailers could put there own name on dials.But after the arrival of the oyster case very late 1920s most of the oyster cased ones did have the name Rolex on the dial.But after the oyster type case was introduced only a few retail companies were still allowed to put there names on the dial, like Cartier,Goldsmiths,Asprey, Bucherer plus a few more.Tiffany was the final last store retailers name to ever to be seen on a Rolex dial very early 1990s. And now any genuine Tiffany named Rolex with provenance but its mainly sports models like the like subs Daytona etc can command quite high prices.

Today its somewhat ironic that after around 90 years of some different retailers' names on many Rolex dials. The only one that was left was a company who do did not ever sell watches,and that's Comex.Now the rarest Rolex co-branded watches could be the Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 Daytona from the late 1980s into early 1990s.Its funny how something other than the Rolex name makes it very very expensive and desirable to collectors.But in today's Rolex market for every genuine one, there are quite a few faked ones and the only real way to check is direct with Rolex.Now there were a few black dialled S, N, T and W serial Daytona's Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 ,which had a manufacturing defect. The colour of the sub-dials faded to brown or like a chocolate colour,very similar to the defect from the late 1980s early 1990s that turned the TT Blue Subs dial more of a purple blue colour.Now today some are asking silly money for these watch and now very desirable to many collectors.But for myself not my cup of tea at all, would much rather any of the very early Chronographs, Rolex Subs or GMT watches.

You mean this color on my 1998 TT Sub? Most all the TT Blue Subs in the 90's developed a slight purple hue over time. Most noticeable when viewing in the sun from a angle. Were the defect dials all purple or was it a color shift purple?



Same watch. Color shift is amazing.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Mystro

You mean this color on my 1998 TT Sub? Most all the TT Blue Subs in the 90's developed a slight purple hue over time. Most noticeable when viewing in the sun from a angle. Were the defect dials all purple or was it a color shift purple?

It was the late 1980s very early 90s dials went purple and not from any sort of light angle difference they were real purple.Many were replaced under warranty but now they may bring a slight premium to those willing to pay.

[Mystro]

That's what I thought, I'm pretty sure I have seen the purple (dark lilac) dial years ago on a TT Sub while window shopping in Philly.

Originally Posted by padi56

It was the late 1980s very early 90s dials went purple and not from any sort of light angle difference they were real purple.Many were replaced under warranty but now they may bring a slight premium to those willing to pay.

[subtona]

I find the co-branded Rolex always intriguing as they are so uncommon.
It is unfortunate that counterfeits have found their way into the market.

Originally Posted by Mystro

You mean this color on my 1998 TT Sub? Most all the TT Blue Subs in the 90's developed a slight purple hue over time. Most noticeable when viewing in the sun from a angle. Were the defect dials all purple or was it a color shift purple?



Same watch. Color shift is amazing.

Off topic apologies,
A coworker had a late 80s maybe even 1990 example of the 16613 , I had an E serial from 1991. His dial had the purplish faded defect. A few years later it was swapped out by Rolex when he brought it in for service, part of the service was to replace the half melted crown from when he electrocuted himself.

Coincidentally, Shortly after that my dial was also swapped out after a service, a day after the watch was returned to me one of the hands fell off and scratched the dial, the dial was then replaced in a follow up service...the watch was returned the second time with a thumbprint on the underside of the crystal and required a third visit to RSC that year. .

[Hairdude1]

Originally Posted by padi56

In the very early years of the [RWC] now Rolex only about 1 in 5 watches had the name Rolex on the Dial,the rest were blank when they left the factory.This was because the various retailers could put there own name on dials.But after the arrival of the oyster case very late 1920s most of the oyster cased ones did have the name Rolex on the dial.But after the oyster type case was introduced only a few retail companies were still allowed to put there names on the dial, like Cartier,Goldsmiths,Asprey, Bucherer plus a few more.Tiffany was the final last store retailers name to ever to be seen on a Rolex dial very early 1990s. And now any genuine Tiffany named Rolex with provenance but its mainly sports models like the like subs Daytona etc can command quite high prices.

Today its somewhat ironic that after around 90 years of some different retailers' names on many Rolex dials. The only one that was left was a company who do did not ever sell watches,and that's Comex.Now the rarest Rolex co-branded watches could be the Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 Daytona from the late 1980s into early 1990s.Its funny how something other than the Rolex name makes it very very expensive and desirable to collectors.But in today's Rolex market for every genuine one, there are quite a few faked ones and the only real way to check is direct with Rolex.Now there were a few black dialled S, N, T and W serial Daytona's Tiffany and Co, or Cartier dialled 16520 ,which had a manufacturing defect. The colour of the sub-dials faded to brown or like a chocolate colour,very similar to the defect from the late 1980s early 1990s that turned the TT Blue Subs dial more of a purple blue colour.Now today some are asking silly money for these watch and now very desirable to many collectors.But for myself not my cup of tea at all, would much rather any of the very early Chronographs, Rolex Subs or GMT watches.

Thanks Padi!

[SeaDweller50]

For several decades, Tiffany-branded Rolex watches could be sent to either company for servicing. In the early 1990’s, Rolex made the decision to stop supplying co-branded watches, and would no longer honor warranties if the dial stamping's had been done at a Tiffany & Co. location. As a result, Tiffany & Co. stopped selling Rolex watches, and the two companies parted ways.

[DramaTurtle]

Great history lesson Padi.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by blue16613

Great!

Nice to learn something and a welcome relief from "A friend's dog drooled on my sister's Rolex and my stepmother wants me to ask the Forum if she could get rabies."

Have to agree on that one,after reading some posts lately it makes me think time for me to hang my Rolex hat for good.

[JohnBaker3]

Tiffany & Co. (founded by Charles Tiffany prior to the Civil War) branded more than just Rolex Watches.

Here is an Omega Seamaster that has the added touch of being co-branded.

[brandrea]

Great reply to the OP Peter, thank you

[RollingRollie]

Stopped by the Tiffany's SF flagship store this past December and the sales rep mentioned that Patek may have wanted an exclusive deal, thus no more Tiffany's-Rolex dials. Can anyone else verify if this is true?

She also mentioned that the person hand painting the branding on the dials (a lady!) at the Tiffany's NYC is retiring soon.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by RollingRollie

Stopped by the Tiffany's SF flagship store this past December and the sales rep mentioned that Patek may have wanted an exclusive deal, thus no more Tiffany's-Rolex dials. Can anyone else verify if this is true?

She also mentioned that the person hand painting the branding on the dials (a lady!) at the Tiffany's NYC is retiring soon.

I highly doubt Patek could convince a retailer to do anything against the wishes of Rolex, the elephant in the room.

[Mr. Vegas]

I just recently saw a patek nautilus tiffany & co. for sale here. Thought it was interesting.