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Sublovin · 8 April 2017, 01:47 AM

Had a very interesting conversation with an AD in Dallas yesterday while traveling. He said he has been in the business for over 20 years and the new SD announcement has generated more calls and questions than any other Rolex offering he has seen!
He said he already has 15 pre-paid and it far exceeds his wait list for the new Daytona.
We went on to discuss the things that some collectors here don't like such as cyclops and case size.
He sounded pretty in tune with the watch forum chatter and was quick to remind that collectors here represent a very small minority, and that 99%of the general buying public couldn't care less about the history, the cyclops, or the red print...
They want larger watches and the old SD "looked like a sub but for $2,000 more...nobody wanted it".
Interesting conversation....
I really like the new SD (not currently on a list), but it is funny how we caught up in the tiny nuances that the overwhelming majority don't give a thought to.

SeaDweller50 · 8 April 2017, 01:56 AM

And this doesn't look anything like a Sub, does it? All be it a slightly oversized one. It looks more like a Sub than the SD4K to me, probably due to the cyclops.

Sublovin · 8 April 2017, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airborne

And this doesn't look anything like a Sub, does it? All be it a slightly oversized one. It looks more like a Sub than the SD4K to me, probably due to the cyclops.

Just stating the facts as he sees it

breitlings · 8 April 2017, 01:58 AM

Lugs are slimmer than a maxi case sub.

Lrlx · 8 April 2017, 02:10 AM

I think its pretty clear that Rolex's size restraint has opened the doors for IWC, Panerai, Hublot, AP (ROO) and Omega fill that 43mm+ lux watch void. The new SD should be Rolexes best seller in no time. I find it surprising how folks are drawn to larger watches. On a side note, a week ago I was at the AP boutique for 1-2 hours waiting to get my RO looked at. Every person that went in checked out a ROO...

SeaDweller50 · 8 April 2017, 02:11 AM

Quote (Lugs are slimmer than a maxi case sub.)
Indeed. As is the SD4K's

I feel a long wait for the 15th pre-paid customer.

about 10 years?

Sublovin · 8 April 2017, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airborne

Quote (Lugs are slimmer than a maxi case sub.)
Indeed. As is the SD4K's

I feel a long wait for the 15th pre-paid customer.

about 10 years?

Good point. I asked him what he thought he would receive. He GUESSED maybe 6 in the first year

Smarties · 8 April 2017, 02:42 AM

The cyclops make SD look more like a Sub than ever. In general, people paying a few thousands more would like to see something differentiate it from the Sub.

phillycheez · 8 April 2017, 02:48 AM

It will sell well because it looks like a sub.. but bigger.

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Smarties · 8 April 2017, 03:16 AM

I'm sure it'll sell well. I've ordered one since I love the red text, new movement, and can pull off a 43mm watch. But it'll sell even better if it look less like a Sub.

SeaDweller50 · 8 April 2017, 03:17 AM

It's too expensive for those just 'looking to buy a Sports Rolex'. The Submariner will still be the watch of choice.

Sublovin · 8 April 2017, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airborne

It's too expensive for those just 'looking to buy a Sports Rolex'. The Submariner will still be the watch of choice.

Definitely agree. That said, I agree with him that for people who wanted the look of a sub, there werent many compelling reasons to spend extra money on the old sea dweller when it felt like the same watch.
Now people have a choice ...do you want to sub, or do you want the "jumbo sub "
I also think the general buying public likes the cyclops. They associate it with a Rolex, and they want it.
I don't agree with pre-paying. I think that is ridiculous.

Pmt2 · 9 April 2017, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sublovin

Definitely agree. That said, I agree with him that for people who wanted the look of a sub, there werent many compelling reasons to spend extra money on the old sea dweller when it felt like the same watch.
Now people have a choice ...do you want to sub, or do you want the "jumbo sub "
I also think the general buying public likes the cyclops. They associate it with a Rolex, and they want it.
I don't agree with pre-paying. I think that is ridiculous.

Good point

al503 · 8 April 2017, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airborne

It's too expensive for those just 'looking to buy a Sports Rolex'. The Submariner will still be the watch of choice.

I agree. It's a few thousand less with a slimmer case (which translates to more comfortable for many), and it's a 'Sub.' The new SD isn't going to knock the sub out of the top sales position (in the sports category.)

rudestew · 9 April 2017, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airborne

It's too expensive for those just 'looking to buy a Sports Rolex'. The Submariner will still be the watch of choice.

Tbh if you can go 6k you'll squeeze 8k if it's what you want

spineguy · 9 April 2017, 01:59 AM

will the new seadweller ever get to 8K from trusted sellers? thoughts?

Hotrod297 · 9 April 2017, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spineguy

will the new seadweller ever get to 8K from trusted sellers? thoughts?

IMO, Not for years. It'll be 10K-11K, maybe more! Need to wait for supply to catch up with demand. Knowing Rolex, they're going to milk it for all it's worth!

WJGESQ · 14 April 2017, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airborne

It's too expensive for those just 'looking to buy a Sports Rolex'. The Submariner will still be the watch of choice.

Agreed.

teo · 8 April 2017, 03:22 AM

Since this new sea dweller is so popular it will likely be in production for the next 30years. Rolex will not discontinue a popular model. So what's the hurry to get it? We will all soon see it on everybody wrist it become too common.

gregmoeck · 8 April 2017, 03:33 AM

15 pre paid, no way...

Hotrod297 · 8 April 2017, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregmoeck

15 pre paid, no way...

He is an AD from Dallas, and Dallas has a lot of people with money. So I'm not surprise!

Like To Watch · 9 April 2017, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregmoeck

15 pre paid, no way...

More than the Daytona C.

Flipping new watches and making a profit.

Rolex

GB-man · 8 April 2017, 04:13 AM

Record setting? I seriously doubt it is getting more interest than the blnr did upon release, never mind the 116500.

LuminousMaximus · 8 April 2017, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

Record setting? I seriously doubt it is getting more interest than the blnr did upon release, never mind the 116500.

+ 1

And, I'm sure it was more questions than orders...

SeaDweller50 · 8 April 2017, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

Record setting? I seriously doubt it is getting more interest than the blnr did upon release, never mind the 116500.

Agreed. Typical AD employee BS spiel-(an elaborate or glib speech or story, typically one used by a salesperson.)

Sublovin · 8 April 2017, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

Record setting? I seriously doubt it is getting more interest than the blnr did upon release, never mind the 116500.

I absolutely think it surpasses the interest of the BLNR...I'm shocked that he said it has surpassed the Daytona...but the BLNR doesn't surprise me

Wahlberg · 8 April 2017, 04:50 AM

If this watch exceeds his waiting list for the Daytona I'm sure I can pick up a Daytona at his place in 1 month?

DeeTee · 8 April 2017, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sublovin

I absolutely think it surpasses the interest of the BLNR...I'm shocked that he said it has surpassed the Daytona...but the BLNR doesn't surprise me

Too many Willie Nelson breaks for your salesperson

Sublovin · 8 April 2017, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeTee

Too many Willie Nelson breaks for your salesperson

Ha! You never know...
Not sure why he would make this stuff up though...I was very up front with him that I had zero interest in placing any type of deposit to get this watch.

SubSensei · 9 April 2017, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sublovin

i absolutely think it surpasses the interest of the blnr...i'm shocked that he said it has surpassed the daytona...but the blnr doesn't surprise me

+1

8 April 2017, 01:47 AM	#1
Sublovin 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Watch: Lots Posts: 4,595	New Seadweller...record setting interest? Had a very interesting conversation with an AD in Dallas yesterday while traveling. He said he has been in the business for over 20 years and the new SD announcement has generated more calls and questions than any other Rolex offering he has seen! He said he already has 15 pre-paid and it far exceeds his wait list for the new Daytona. We went on to discuss the things that some collectors here don't like such as cyclops and case size. He sounded pretty in tune with the watch forum chatter and was quick to remind that collectors here represent a very small minority, and that 99%of the general buying public couldn't care less about the history, the cyclops, or the red print... They want larger watches and the old SD "looked like a sub but for $2,000 more...nobody wanted it". Interesting conversation.... I really like the new SD (not currently on a list), but it is funny how we caught up in the tiny nuances that the overwhelming majority don't give a thought to. Attached Images

9 April 2017, 01:59 AM	#16
spineguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fort Wayne, In Posts: 56	think it will ever be 8K? will the new seadweller ever get to 8K from trusted sellers? thoughts?

8 April 2017, 04:13 AM	#23
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	Record setting? I seriously doubt it is getting more interest than the blnr did upon release, never mind the 116500. __________________

8 April 2017, 01:56 AM	#2
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	And this doesn't look anything like a Sub, does it? All be it a slightly oversized one. It looks more like a Sub than the SD4K to me, probably due to the cyclops.

8 April 2017, 01:58 AM	#4
breitlings Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bethesda Watch: Apple TV Posts: 5,744	Lugs are slimmer than a maxi case sub.

8 April 2017, 02:10 AM	#5
Lrlx "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ny Posts: 292	I think its pretty clear that Rolex's size restraint has opened the doors for IWC, Panerai, Hublot, AP (ROO) and Omega fill that 43mm+ lux watch void. The new SD should be Rolexes best seller in no time. I find it surprising how folks are drawn to larger watches. On a side note, a week ago I was at the AP boutique for 1-2 hours waiting to get my RO looked at. Every person that went in checked out a ROO...

8 April 2017, 02:11 AM	#6
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	Quote (Lugs are slimmer than a maxi case sub.) Indeed. As is the SD4K's I feel a long wait for the 15th pre-paid customer. about 10 years?

8 April 2017, 02:42 AM	#8
Smarties "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Asia Posts: 714	The cyclops make SD look more like a Sub than ever. In general, people paying a few thousands more would like to see something differentiate it from the Sub.

8 April 2017, 02:48 AM	#9
phillycheez "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Portland Posts: 398	It will sell well because it looks like a sub.. but bigger. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

8 April 2017, 03:16 AM	#10
Smarties "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Asia Posts: 714	I'm sure it'll sell well. I've ordered one since I love the red text, new movement, and can pull off a 43mm watch. But it'll sell even better if it look less like a Sub.

8 April 2017, 03:17 AM	#11
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	It's too expensive for those just 'looking to buy a Sports Rolex'. The Submariner will still be the watch of choice.

8 April 2017, 03:22 AM	#19
teo "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: amk Posts: 792	Since this new sea dweller is so popular it will likely be in production for the next 30years. Rolex will not discontinue a popular model. So what's the hurry to get it? We will all soon see it on everybody wrist it become too common.

8 April 2017, 03:33 AM	#20
gregmoeck "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Maui Watch: Patek Posts: 2,032	15 pre paid, no way...

8 April 2017, 04:50 AM	#27
Wahlberg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 3,590	If this watch exceeds his waiting list for the Daytona I'm sure I can pick up a Daytona at his place in 1 month?

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