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DeepSeaDiving · 2 October 2008, 12:14 PM

Just wanting to see how many Daytona owners had the patience to buy from an AD rather than the Flippers/GM.

If you are a true enthusiast don't buy your Daytona from a flipper because they will just turn around and buy another Daytona to flip. By repeating this process I can't help but think flippers are cheapening the image of the Daytona.

I'm all for AD's doing mandatory engravings/holding warranty in their possession to stop this flipping madness!

Yume-sama · 2 October 2008, 12:20 PM

Was offered both White / Black dial... and took them both. Did not have to wait.

I don't think I'd have the patience to wait as long as some people have for it.

Wolfgang427 · 2 October 2008, 01:45 PM

I walked in to an AD I have never been to before and asked to see a Milgauss, the sales person told me he had just sold one and asked if I was interested in anything else.

I asked if he had a SS-Daytona and he went to the safe and pulled out two of them, a black one and a white one.

I bought the the black one on the spot for MSRP and he shipped it to me for free to my home in another state so no tax added on.

RsqVet · 2 October 2008, 02:00 PM

Um it's called a free market for a reason and I'd gladly suggest to any AD that wanted to hold the paper or mandtory engrave my watch what they could do with it.

I would also like to point out that rolex could solve this problem by making more of the darn things... I am sure this is within their power. Furthermore doing so would end the games AD's play with the SS daytona which to me DOES cheapen rolex to used car salesmen like tactics in many cases.

I also fail to see how flipping the watch cheapens it.... it is a fine watch and the watch does not care how many times it is sold.

But I suspect instead rolex is going to price the thing here in a few short years to the point that supply will meet demand due to the price.

TheVTCGuy · 3 October 2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RsqVet

Um it's called a free market for a reason and I'd gladly suggest to any AD that wanted to hold the paper or mandtory engrave my watch what they could do with it.

I would also like to point out that rolex could solve this problem by making more of the darn things... I am sure this is within their power. Furthermore doing so would end the games AD's play with the SS daytona which to me DOES cheapen rolex to used car salesmen like tactics in many cases.

I also fail to see how flipping the watch cheapens it.... it is a fine watch and the watch does not care how many times it is sold.

But I suspect instead rolex is going to price the thing here in a few short years to the point that supply will meet demand due to the price.

I understand you frustration Vet, and I asked my AD about this (low number of available SS). They said it was simple economics, Rolex makes a much greater margin on the TT and Golds, therefore they devote more resources to those models. I'm not saying I like it, but it makes sense.

RsqVet · 3 October 2008, 12:43 AM

True; however from where I sit rolex has never gotten production on the Daytona up to where it should be.

Though a gold or TT Daytona is still easier to find than the SS they are not in every AD's case the way say the Sub date is. Why not? I'm sure rolex would sell more of them if they were out there.

Dr S · 5 October 2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfgang427

I walked in to an AD I have never been to before and asked to see a Milgauss, the sales person told me he had just sold one and asked if I was interested in anything else.

I asked if he had a SS-Daytona and he went to the safe and pulled out two of them, a black one and a white one.

I bought the the black one on the spot for MSRP and he shipped it to me for free to my home in another state so no tax added on.

AD everytime - don't have to wait that long and it's always a nice surprise whnt he call comes in :)

dcash0615 · 5 October 2008, 01:39 AM

Bought mine at an AD at MSRP. Waited about 9 months to get the call.

rocco1109 · 2 October 2008, 02:09 PM

Like the one in your picture?

tnt · 2 October 2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rocco1109

Like the one in your picture?

Felly Jr. · 2 October 2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rocco1109

Like the one in your picture?

It's called a "Frankentona". And ugly as hell to boot!

rescue7 · 3 October 2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Felly Jr.

It's called a "Frankentona". And ugly as hell to boot!

The all black Daytona is Butt ugly, why would anybody ruin a perfectly made watch and have it coated in pvc.

Felly Jr. · 3 October 2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rescue7

The all black Daytona is Butt ugly, why would anybody ruin a perfectly made watch and have it coated in pvc.

And what's more, that's a FAKE butt ugly pvc coated POS!

rescue7 · 3 October 2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Felly Jr.

And what's more, that's a FAKE butt ugly pvc coated POS!

I stand corrected Felly,

JohnEaton · 3 October 2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Felly Jr.

And what's more, that's a FAKE butt ugly pvc coated POS!

That's okay Felly, DeepSeaDiving's name is engraved on the case back by his AD... Just don't try and flip that uglywhateveritis DSD

And don't give us REAL Deep Sea Divers a bad name

ashu2289 · 2 October 2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rocco1109

Like the one in your picture?

DeepSeaDiving · 3 October 2008, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocco1109

Like the one in your picture?

If you can't contribute to the thread please kiss my

Welshwatchman · 3 October 2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSeaDiving

If you can't contribute to the thread please kiss my

Charming !

I think the question was why post a picture of a crappy fake Daytona in your signature?

rocco1109 · 3 October 2008, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSeaDiving

If you can't contribute to the thread please kiss my

I did not wait on a list. I just had a good relationship with a sales person and when they got one in, they called me.

OK...so how about your contribution to the thread. Where did you get your "AUTHENTIC" Daytona?

How about that fake one in your picture?

Here's mine. Let's see yours.

TempoKing · 3 October 2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rocco1109

I did not wait on a list. I just had a good relationship with a sales person and when they got one in, they called me.

OK...so how about your contribution to the thread. Where did you get your "AUTHENTIC" Daytona?

How about that fake one in your picture?

Here's mine. Let's see yours.

Rocco1109 is right, his Daytona is 100%
The Daytona in the picture that DEEPSEADIVER has uploaded is fake.
Thicker outer-perimeter of the registers,
the hands do not have the black hair line in the middle as they should for a black dial
these are a couple of things I can see really quick.

rocco1109 · 3 October 2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TempoKing

Rocco1109 is right, his Daytona is 100%
The Daytona in the picture that DEEPSEADIVER has uploaded is fake.
Thicker outer-perimeter of the registers,
the hands do not have the black hair line in the middle as they should for a black dial
these are a couple of things I can see really quick.

It just strikes me as interesting that the DeepSeaDiving's original point was: Don't buy from flippers because it cheapens the brand...

And then he posts a picture of an obviously fake Daytona in his signature. Talk about cheapening the brand.

DeepSeaDiving...I've just read most of your posts on this forum and you seem to be relatively new to the world of Rolex. You probably did not know that the watch in your signature is fake. Fair enough. We all have to start somewhere.

I apologize if I offended you (I'll forget about your childish "kiss my a$$" comment). In return, how about doing us a favor and deleting that fake Daytona from your signature and replacing it with a picture of the real Daytona you recently acquired? Please? Pretty Please?

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Besides the points TempoKing correctly noted about DeepSeaDiving's Daytona, the tell-tale sign that it is fake is the location of the subdials at 3 and 9 o'clock.

On an authentic Daytona with a 4130 movement, the center of the subdials is shifted upward, toward 12 o'clock, a few mm from the centerline of the crown. If you look at the number "9" on the 12 hour totalizer in the pic below, you'll see that it sits slightly above the 9 o'clock hour marker on the dial. This is a nuance that most counterfeiters fail to recognize.

There are many other obvious flaws.

GBJIV · 2 October 2008, 02:41 PM

Bought it from my AD.

gg922 · 2 October 2008, 04:18 PM

I was lucky. A member from here that I helped get a GMT IIC from a local dealer in my neck of the woods told me about it. I called the guy that I bought my GMT from and landed it!!!!! I was going to flip it I never really liked them from the pictures I have seen. I could not do it after I had it on my wrist.

Singslinger · 2 October 2008, 04:24 PM

The premium over MRSP in Singapore is almost 50% which I was not prepared to pay, so with the aid of a friend living in Switzerland, I put my name on a waiting list with a Swiss retailer back in 2002. It finally arrived last August - a wait of around 5 years. It was worth the wait.

walds11 · 2 October 2008, 05:49 PM

I had 3 pre-owned SS Daytonas at various times. I paid a premium on all of them. Luckily I did not lose much money when I sold them. I made a nice profit on the last one due to the price increase form $7,900 to $9,200. In May, I got the call from a local AD that I never did business with for one. I naturally jumped all over it.

rolex_addict · 2 October 2008, 09:28 PM

Bought all my 5 SS Daytonas (3 black and 2 white) from my AD :)

rolex_addict · 2 October 2008, 09:31 PM

here is a pic, enjoy :)
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toph · 2 October 2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rolex_addict

here is a pic, enjoy :)

Amazing- but you are very very greedy

- all i want is one, which is virtually impossible for me in the UK

A serious question, do you wear them all or just one black and one white?

5 Daytona's

nitromilt · 2 October 2008, 09:44 PM

placed an order for a t/t black dial diamond hour makers from my ad.Took 5 months to get.Going to order an all gold daytona soon,will do it the same way.

rolex_addict · 2 October 2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by toph

Amazing- but you are very very greedy

- all i want is one, which is virtually impossible for me in the UK

A serious question, do you wear them all or just one black and one white?

5 Daytona's

Just one black, one white

2 October 2008, 12:14 PM	#1
DeepSeaDiving Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: US Watch: Daytona Posts: 98	How did you buy your Daytona? Just wanting to see how many Daytona owners had the patience to buy from an AD rather than the Flippers/GM. If you are a true enthusiast don't buy your Daytona from a flipper because they will just turn around and buy another Daytona to flip. By repeating this process I can't help but think flippers are cheapening the image of the Daytona. I'm all for AD's doing mandatory engravings/holding warranty in their possession to stop this flipping madness!

2 October 2008, 02:09 PM	#9
rocco1109 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Will Location: Colorado USA Posts: 556	Which is better? Buying a REAL Daytona from a flipper or buying a FAKE Daytona... Like the one in your picture?

2 October 2008, 02:41 PM	#22
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	Bought it from my AD. __________________ Jackson

2 October 2008, 05:49 PM	#25
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,660	I had 3 pre-owned SS Daytonas at various times. I paid a premium on all of them. Luckily I did not lose much money when I sold them. I made a nice profit on the last one due to the price increase form $7,900 to $9,200. In May, I got the call from a local AD that I never did business with for one. I naturally jumped all over it. __________________ Adam

2 October 2008, 09:31 PM	#27
rolex_addict "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: . Posts: 831	here is a pic, enjoy :) [IMG][/IMG]

2 October 2008, 12:20 PM	#2
Yume-sama "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: CAN / SIN Watch: Plat. Masterpiece Posts: 1,959	Was offered both White / Black dial... and took them both. Did not have to wait. I don't think I'd have the patience to wait as long as some people have for it.

2 October 2008, 01:45 PM	#3
Wolfgang427 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Wolfgang Location: New Jersey. Watch: Rolex Tudor Omega Posts: 5,592	I walked in to an AD I have never been to before and asked to see a Milgauss, the sales person told me he had just sold one and asked if I was interested in anything else. I asked if he had a SS-Daytona and he went to the safe and pulled out two of them, a black one and a white one. I bought the the black one on the spot for MSRP and he shipped it to me for free to my home in another state so no tax added on.

2 October 2008, 02:00 PM	#4
RsqVet Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 142	Um it's called a free market for a reason and I'd gladly suggest to any AD that wanted to hold the paper or mandtory engrave my watch what they could do with it. I would also like to point out that rolex could solve this problem by making more of the darn things... I am sure this is within their power. Furthermore doing so would end the games AD's play with the SS daytona which to me DOES cheapen rolex to used car salesmen like tactics in many cases. I also fail to see how flipping the watch cheapens it.... it is a fine watch and the watch does not care how many times it is sold. But I suspect instead rolex is going to price the thing here in a few short years to the point that supply will meet demand due to the price.

3 October 2008, 12:43 AM	#6
RsqVet Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 142	True; however from where I sit rolex has never gotten production on the Daytona up to where it should be. Though a gold or TT Daytona is still easier to find than the SS they are not in every AD's case the way say the Sub date is. Why not? I'm sure rolex would sell more of them if they were out there.

5 October 2008, 01:39 AM	#8
dcash0615 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: CA Watch: es Posts: 4,395	Bought mine at an AD at MSRP. Waited about 9 months to get the call.

2 October 2008, 04:18 PM	#23
gg922 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ca Watch: DAYTONA Posts: 204	I was lucky. A member from here that I helped get a GMT IIC from a local dealer in my neck of the woods told me about it. I called the guy that I bought my GMT from and landed it!!!!! I was going to flip it I never really liked them from the pictures I have seen. I could not do it after I had it on my wrist.

2 October 2008, 04:24 PM	#24
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	The premium over MRSP in Singapore is almost 50% which I was not prepared to pay, so with the aid of a friend living in Switzerland, I put my name on a waiting list with a Swiss retailer back in 2002. It finally arrived last August - a wait of around 5 years. It was worth the wait.

2 October 2008, 09:28 PM	#26
rolex_addict "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: . Posts: 831	Bought all my 5 SS Daytonas (3 black and 2 white) from my AD :)

2 October 2008, 09:44 PM	#29
nitromilt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: iowa Watch: T/T DAYTONA BLACK Posts: 20	placed an order for a t/t black dial diamond hour makers from my ad.Took 5 months to get.Going to order an all gold daytona soon,will do it the same way.

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