Have you ever feel like a big shot in a restaurant wearing your expensive Rolex?

[bodybump]

This a good topic..Have you ever feel like a big shot in a restaurant wearing your expensive Rolex watch and turns out you tip really bad even though the service is exceptional??? My friend owns a japanese restaurant in Boca and his advice to his waitstaff is to look for expensive stuff like watches,jewelry,handbags,and car keys for potential big spenders..most of their clientel are very rich...but the funny thing is some of this people are really really cheap...The one that tips really bad who wear those expensive Rolex watches are from Europe ( no offense guys) most of them act like big shots but tips really really bad...Next are Canadians,African American,Spanish and Asians... No offense guys but what are your thoughts??

[Yume-sama]

Is it customary to tip in Europe? I know in Asia it isn't, it is considered an insult to tip as you are just throwing your money at them. As for Canada, we usually just double the tax as a tip.

I don't believe in tipping big "just because", if the waiter does something truly exceptional and goes out of his way to perform his job well and make my evening a good one... than OK. But I have been to some of the best restaurants in Asia, where tipping is not asked for, nor accepted... so it would be hard for any North American / European to live up to any type of service you would be offered over there. I think people who work at restaurants in North America believe they are entitled to tips for no real reason... I like to prove them wrong.

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Is it customary to tip in Europe? I know in Asia it isn't, it is considered an insult to tip as you are just throwing your money at them. As for Canada, we usually just double the tax as a tip.

I don't believe in tipping big "just because", if the waiter does something truly exceptional and goes out of his way to perform his job well and make my evening a good one... than OK. But I have been to some of the best restaurants in Asia, where tipping is not asked for, nor accepted... so it would be hard for any North American / European to live up to any type of service you would be offered over there. I think people who work at restaurants in North America believe they are entitled to tips for no real reason... I like to prove them wrong.

here in the United States most of the people who work here in the restaurant rely on tips...job like a wait staff are paid $3.50 per hour and they rely on tips...90% of the restaurant here they share the tips with Bussers,dishwasers etc and so on usually servers pay 7% of the tips to them automatically...so Lets say your check is $500 plus tax 6.5% (florida)=$532.00 now usually foreigners tip 10% under just imagine how much your server will take home?? Hahahaha damn if you tip like that i advice you dont go back to that restaurant because definitley they will recognize you and your going to have the most delicious food you will ever get.hahahahaha

In asia..its only in japan that its rude to tip them...not all!!!! usually in asia they include the tips on the meal so thats why asians dont tip when they visit US.

[Ashley]

Originally Posted by bodybump

here in the United States most of the people who work here in the restaurant rely on tips...job like a wait staff are paid $3.50 per hour and they rely on tips...US.

What restauraunts are you talking about? Minimum wage in the US is $6.55.
"Some types of labor are also exempt, and tipped labor must be paid a minimum of $2.13 per hour,[1] as long as the hourly wage plus tipped income result in a minimum of $6.55 per hour." - Wikipedia
Just be careful with the ethnicity comments

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by Ashley

What restauraunts are you talking about? Minimum wage in the US is $6.55.
"Some types of labor are also exempt, and tipped labor must be paid a minimum of $2.13 per hour,[1] as long as the hourly wage plus tipped income result in a minimum of $6.55 per hour." - Wikipedia
Just be careful with the ethnicity comments

Uh uh...not all restaurant have that kind of policy here in the US...some are tips base and some are salary base...$6.50 you will be so lucky!!! Its like saying You cannot employ illegal workers..but 95% of the restaurant business have illegal people working there..

[DARK_KNIGHT]

Originally Posted by bodybump

Uh uh...not all restaurant have that kind of policy here in the US...some are tips base and some are salary base...$6.50 you will be so lucky!!! Its like saying You cannot employ illegal workers..but 95% of the restaurant business have illegal people working there..

Where do you get your facts / figures? You have list of poor "tippers" in descending order of country demographics. Now I see you have 95% of restaurant's have "illegal people working there..".

The title of your thread was in essence: "Do you fee like a big shot in a restaurant wearing your expensive Rolex ?" How did it morph into "tipper-gate" and illegals?

[carbon6]

The minimum wage here in California is $8.00 as of January 1, 2008. I usually double tax and round up if service was good or round down it service was bad.

[Yume-sama]

Originally Posted by bodybump

so Lets say your check is $500 plus tax 6.5% (florida)=$532.00 now usually foreigners tip 10% under just imagine how much your server will take home?? Hahahaha damn if you tip like that i advice you dont go back to that restaurant because definitley they will recognize you and your going to have the most delicious food you will ever get.hahahahaha

I would think it would be very difficult to run up a bill of $500 at a place that pays at or below minimum wage. The places I frequent, I *know* they are being paid well, the waiters have all gone to school and are older, the chefs are all professional, etc. and the price of the food justifies that.

[C6Racing]

I actually get a bit embarrased when someone realizes what watch Im wearing .... many times if I get a comment , I will say "its a fake" .

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

I would think it would be very difficult to run up a bill of $500 at a place that pays at or below minimum wage. The places I frequent, I *know* they are being paid well, the waiters have all gone to school and are older, the chefs are all professional, etc. and the price of the food justifies that.

In fine dinning restaurant here in the US 2 people can easily rack up $500 at one sitting..thats probably the minimum wage is low because they dont mind it at all with the customers tips....I read one article..NOBU japanese restaurant was sued by their waitstaff because managers taking a big chunk of share on their tip pool...it was dismissed and the servers makes $70,000 a year!!!

[Lisa]

Originally Posted by bodybump

In asia..its only in japan that its rude to tip them...not all!!!! usually in asia they include the tips on the meal so thats why asians dont tip when they visit US.

Interesting note about it being considered rude to tip in Asia. At our sushi places, it's noted on the menu that the sushi chef appreciates a tip - and/or a drink from the bar, compliments of the patron!

[karmatp]

I used to valet cars when in college at a restaurant and the best tippers were middle class folks. The guys wearing the expensive suits and driving really expensive cars, well they generally were the worst tippers.

[James T]

Originally Posted by karmatp

I used to valet cars when in college at a restaurant and the best tippers were middle class folks. The guys wearing the expensive suits and driving really expensive cars, well they generally were the worst tippers.

.

x2 on this.. when i 1st came to America, i worked as a part time valet also at a restaurant in beverly hills and those driving ferraris and bentlys usually tips around a dollar or so cheap a$$es!
..and those driving corollas and other japanese cheap cars usually would tip around 10-15dollars!

[enigma-2]

Originally Posted by bodybump

here in the United States most of the people who work here in the restaurant rely on tips...job like a wait staff are paid $3.50 per hour and they rely on tips...90% of the restaurant here they share the tips with Bussers,dishwasers etc and so on usually servers pay 7% of the tips to them automatically...

You can tell the soul of a person by how they treat those who serve them.

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by enigma-2

You can tell the soul of a person by how they treat those who serve them.

You are excatly right on target!!!!

[archaeofreak]

in europe tips are included...it is not customary to tip, so that may account for why they are poor tippers....also some people obtain wealth by being frugal. Maybe thats it....I always tip 20% unless the service is really bad...

[sleedawg]

Where I am in Silicon Valley... Rolex, Panerai, etc. are common place. The real ballers have the Pateks. Having a watch, or (for the women) LV, Goyard or Hermes bags are just common place around here. Hell, in Vegas at the SW Steakhouse, my lead waiter had a new SS Sub. At the end of the evening after we paid and he had his decent tip he said thank you and he likes my GMT IIc and is thinking of getting one himself. I was at the Porsche Driving School a month ago and EVERYONE was sporting a Rolex (mostly Daytonas) except for one guy's wife who was wearing a Patek Aquanaut.

As my man LL Cool J said it... Man made the money. Money never made the man. Rolex doesn't make you a big shot. Only you can do that. ;)

[MiningGuy]

Australians don't tip either, so for them in a restaurant in North America, it's a bit of a foreign concept for them.

I work with many Australians and whenever we're out to dinner in North America, if they are paying they'll defer to me with a "what do I tip?" type question.

So it may not be that they are "bad tippers"...they may just not know. When I was in Australia for the first time, I would have looked like a BIG shot for sure because nobody told me tipping wasn't really done, and so when I put down a 15-20% tip, the wait staff's eyes nearly popped out. Good thing that only happened once!

[MassiveAttack]

i love sporting my Rolex at MacDonalds, i get free refills and ketchup

[Bisquitlips]

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

i love sporting my Rolex at MacDonalds, i get free refills and ketchup

Bwaaaahhhhahahaha! So do I!!!

[DARK_KNIGHT]

Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

Bwaaaahhhhahahaha! So do I!!!

I don't............maybe I should scream DISCRIMINATION !!!!

[Bisquitlips]

Originally Posted by DARK_KNIGHT

I don't............maybe I should scream DISCRIMINATION !!!!

No, it's not discrimination, just the fact that you are not wearing the correct Rollie!

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

No, it's not discrimination, just the fact that you are not wearing the correct Rollie!

[DARK_KNIGHT]

Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

No, it's not discrimination, just the fact that you are not wearing the correct Rollie!

Thanks for the "heads-up".

I will airbrush or "crayola" the hell outta a watch and pass it off as a YM-II.

FREE RE-FILLS...............HERE I COME !

[Ashley]

Originally Posted by bodybump

This a good topic..Have you ever feel like a big shot in a restaurant wearing your expensive Rolex watch and turns out you tip really bad even though the service is exceptional??? My friend owns a japanese restaurant in Boca and his advice to his waitstaff is to look for expensive stuff like watches,jewelry,handbags,and car keys for potential big spenders..most of their clientel are very rich...but the funny thing is some of this people are really really cheap...The one that tips really bad who wear those expensive Rolex watches are from Europe ( no offense guys) most of them act like big shots but tips really really bad...Next are Canadians,African American,Spanish and Asians... No offense guys but what are your thoughts??

Really? Canadians are second on that list and Americans aren't on it at all? Hmm.
I too double the tax unless service is especially good or especially bad. Wearing a Rolex, driving a Mercedes, wearing an Italian suit, none of that matters. The person does!

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by Ashley

Really? Canadians are second on that list and Americans aren't on it at all? Hmm.
I too double the tax unless service is especially good or especially bad. Wearing a Rolex, driving a Mercedes, wearing an Italian suit, none of that matters. The person does!

Americans are serveyed the most genourous tippers in the world..Food and Wine magazine..

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Ashley

Wearing a Rolex, driving a Mercedes, wearing an Italian suit, none of that matters. The person does!

Originally Posted by astcell

This thread has some usefulness. There are those who feel the watch makes them a big shot. They walk around figuring they deserve better service because they have some bauble of luxury.

When I was 25 years old I had a Rolex, a Leica M6 with 50/1.0, a laptop (this was 1988), and an American Express Platinum card. Know what? I was the same person. I had expected to somehow change inside to a guy who needs to wear a tie and drive a Mercedes. I hate ties.

And I have never tossed around any sort of status I may have for a few reasons. First, the other person may have something better. Second, they may not be impressed by what I think is status. Third, and most important of all, it shows a genuine disregard for the other person's position and demands that you be placed above all else.

Want service? Just say to the waiter "I know you are busy, overworked, and rely on tips to get by. You have a very physically demanding job and it is something that I could never do. Thank you."

Now with that, he hears, "I am a rich guy with a Rolex but you are doing something that I cannot do. You can surpass me if you keep that dedication in working hard."

And what's wrong with that?

Some of the bigshots out there really disparage the Rolex brand through their actions and attitudes.

Could not agree more Robert and Ashley big cars expencive watches dont make anyone a better person,or a big shot .

This thread is getting very close to its sell by date,but will keep it open for the time being.

[Yume-sama]

Wow, at McDonalds! Just don't take the last ketchup packet, I got chewed out for that at In N Out in LA once.

"Chivalry is dead!"

[MiningGuy]

McDonald's??? I thought only the SMILES were free???

[Z-Sub]

I typically tip 16-20%. More if the service is exceptional.
What gets me is some restaurants will add tax to the base and then calculate the tips to artificially inflate the tip they want.
They should just work on making a customer's stay a memorable one.
As for the list of poor tippers by ethnicity, you may be treading on dangerous minefields.
My uncle owned a restaurant in Beverly Hills for 15 years and the worst tippers is not on your list.
I helped out a couple of times when I visited my uncle and made a few runs of deliveries when I was at UCLA School of Medicine.
When delivering food to the door, middle class folks tipped the best and people lived in huge gated houses typically tip the least. frequently $ 1 or 2 for a big order. that was just a trend and I did not find the ethnicity played as big a part as your made it sound like.