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Old 26 June 2017, 08:15 AM   #1
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Do you really think ss daytonac prices will drop much from here?

I'm thinking they won't.

Rolex limits production and demand seems extremely high. Since the introduction of the 16520 it's never went down.

What do you think?
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Old 26 June 2017, 08:35 AM   #2
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Yes. They will be available at retail in time from most ADs, just like the previous Daytona.
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Old 26 June 2017, 08:42 AM   #3
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Absolutely. Tho it'll take a good while
It'll find an over rrp value much closer to rrp than it is now. Just like the 116520 did in the end
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Old 26 June 2017, 08:48 AM   #4
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Drop from inflated prices or msrp??
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Old 26 June 2017, 08:50 AM   #5
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Obviously the new 116500 bubble, effected the other 116520 and 16520 recently too
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Old 26 June 2017, 09:05 AM   #6
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might go down 1k, but if rolex increase price, will shoot up again
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Old 26 June 2017, 09:06 AM   #7
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My AD told me he's taking more SS Sky Dweller orders now than DaytonaC orders. If that's a trend, you might see Daytona prices subside.
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Old 26 June 2017, 09:07 AM   #8
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It might but I think it will take 'years' to accomplish that. With previous daytonas climbing and holding steady, I think c-daytona will always command a premium over those.
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Old 26 June 2017, 09:13 AM   #9
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Will take a good while, probably need a SS Pepsi and/or SS blue Sub to really divert demand.
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Old 26 June 2017, 09:22 AM   #10
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Let me be clear below msrp on the 2ndary market.
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Old 26 June 2017, 09:27 AM   #11
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Let me be clear below msrp on the 2ndary market.
highly doubt it, I do think the premium over msrp will eventually come down to only a thousand or two over msrp thou but it will be a few years
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Old 26 June 2017, 10:11 AM   #12
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Let me be clear below msrp on the 2ndary market.
I don't think you'll see it below MSRP for BNIB. AD's will always be able to sell their allocation at full retail, which drives the secondary market.
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Old 26 June 2017, 10:13 AM   #13
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I hope it will be a long while before we see posts asking, "What is the average discount I should expect on a SS Daytona C?"
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Old 26 June 2017, 10:52 AM   #14
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I'm thinking they won't.

Rolex limits production and demand seems extremely high. Since the introduction of the 16520 it's never went down.

What do you think?
It's likely to mirror the BLNR at MSRP - if you can ever find one...
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Old 26 June 2017, 10:56 AM   #15
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Just have to wait for the first wave hype to die off , and it should be back to the reasonable prices.
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Old 26 June 2017, 11:11 AM   #16
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Not going down anytime soon..
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Old 26 June 2017, 11:19 AM   #17
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Old 26 June 2017, 11:54 AM   #18
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BNIB I would guess will not dip below MSRP.

I do think prices will come lower and settle around 12-13k as people finally get their name called, then realize it's not for them and turn them over for cost.
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Old 26 June 2017, 11:56 AM   #19
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Doubt it will go below msrp on secondary market. I'd be first inline if that happens.
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Old 26 June 2017, 12:26 PM   #20
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I don't think it will go down. It will take as it did in 2008 a financial crisis to get the availability artificially up. Rolex isn't going to increase production either way.



After the financial crisis and continued price increases by Rolex did the desire for a SS Daytona and the grey market gouging subside.
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Old 26 June 2017, 02:40 PM   #21
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I don't think it will go down. It will take as it did in 2008 a financial crisis to get the availability artificially up. Rolex isn't going to increase production either way.



After the financial crisis and continued price increases by Rolex did the desire for a SS Daytona and the grey market gouging subside.
That is very true.

I saw SS Daytona slip below $8k back then...
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Old 26 June 2017, 03:24 PM   #22
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The BLNR was quite popular (although not quite as extreme as the 116500) when it came out and soon thereafter. Now the BLNR is quite common at most US ADs and I have even seen two BLNRs at one AD. The market for the 116500 will settle down eventually, although it may take longer than it took for the BLNR.

I have the black ceramic bezel GMT IIc and never fell head over heels for the BLNR. I also have the 116520, purchased during the height of the great recession, and I don't quite get the big craze with the 116500. But people don't always buy watches with their head but rather with their heart. And as long as people are willing to spend $3K or $5K or more to get one now and not wait until their name comes up at an AD, the pre-owned market will keep the price high.
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Old 26 June 2017, 03:51 PM   #23
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my vote is that the grey prices will come down eventually but I'm betting there is a Rolex price increase first which will further increase grey prices before eventually coming down. I don't necessarily think a US price rise is imminent either so its going to be a while.
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Old 26 June 2017, 12:41 PM   #24
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I think prices will drop a bit, but not below MRSP. Expect to pay a premium for a BNIB example on the secondary market.

Rolex knows that the Daytona-C is a super hot watch. They'll continue to limit the supply like they did with the previous version. And if they don't, ADs will still hoard their inventory and continue to play their stupid games in order to drive up demand.
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Old 26 June 2017, 04:44 PM   #25
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My guess is that 5-7 years you will be able to order a Daytona from your AD and have it in hand within a couple months or less. Possibly with about $700 off MSRP closer to the 7 year mark, from secondary sellers and even some ADs.
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Old 26 June 2017, 04:51 PM   #26
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the same discussion is in the german watch Forum also and it might be, that the premium pricing going down.....
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Old 26 June 2017, 10:37 PM   #27
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I think Rolex will raise the MSRP before prices move south, so therefore no. I don't think we'll see a daytonaC for less than $12.5k. Personally, I think they could have priced the watch at $14k and not lost a single sale. The Grey market prices pretty much confirm this.
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Old 26 June 2017, 10:50 PM   #28
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I keep a close eye on for sale sections and here is what I've seen over the past 6-8 years. In the USA, Daytonas (116520) were readily available, but commanding MSRP when BNIB. Preowned were getting around $10K-11K. Since the release of the 116500, everything changed. Even the 116520 is going for over MSRP. Personally, I don't see anything really changing for the next 5 years or so. Demand will be high and prices will reflect it. Once the hype is over, prices will settle down to MSRP for BNIB and just a tad lower for preowned.
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Old 26 June 2017, 11:29 PM   #29
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personally feel the rise in 116520 prices is also a result of the big move up in the broader vintage market in recent years, which has led to the market chasing the long discontinued 16520s and then the 116520s, and not only because of the introduction of the new daytonaC

given 1) prices mostly used 116520s on the rise given discontinued, and 2) rolex generally only adjusting prices upwards year on year, dont see bnib ss daytonac dropping to close to msrp in the secondary market
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Old 27 June 2017, 01:08 AM   #30
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personally feel the rise in 116520 prices is also a result of the big move up in the broader vintage market in recent years, which has led to the market chasing the long discontinued 16520s and then the 116520s, and not only because of the introduction of the new daytonaC

given 1) prices mostly used 116520s on the rise given discontinued, and 2) rolex generally only adjusting prices upwards year on year, dont see bnib ss daytonac dropping to close to msrp in the secondary market
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