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Old 10 August 2017, 07:01 PM   #1
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Imperfect lugs: Steel Daytona

Observed that the ss Daytona has asymmetric lugs, compared to the all gold Daytona. I am a bit chocked. My ss Daytona confirmed that. I do not have an all gold Daytona to compare. Anyone? Thanks in advance.
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Old 10 August 2017, 07:15 PM   #2
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It's a very well known fact and it's always been like that, there are many threads on TRF about it.

In short:

* SS, TT and YG on bracelet have asymmetric lugs;
* Pt, WG, RG and YG on Oysterflex have symmetric lugs.
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Old 10 August 2017, 08:27 PM   #3
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It's a very well known fact and it's always been like that, there are many threads on TRF about it.

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* SS, TT and YG on bracelet have asymmetric lugs;
* Pt, WG, RG and YG on Oysterflex have symmetric lugs.
comes up all the time! Perfect summary!!
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Old 11 August 2017, 12:04 AM   #4
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comes up all the time! Perfect summary!!
another one of the pluses for PM's!!



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Old 11 August 2017, 07:28 AM   #5
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It's a very well known fact and it's always been like that, there are many threads on TRF about it.

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* SS, TT and YG on bracelet have asymmetric lugs;
* Pt, WG, RG and YG on Oysterflex have symmetric lugs.
Cheeky cost savings on the YG, I'd demand an extra 1% discount.
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Old 3 March 2020, 01:51 AM   #6
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Cheeky cost savings on the YG, I'd demand an extra 1% discount.
Actually, the YG variants do have a lower MSRP compared to WG, RG and PT. But I think it is due to the yellow gold mix that they use, because all Rolex yellow gold models have a lower MSRP than their WG and RG versions.

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Old 10 August 2017, 08:32 PM   #7
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This is the first time I've heard this.

Maybe because I'm finally planning on getting a Daytona?


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Plus the lugs on the crown side of all the Rolex SS sports watches have always been a fraction slimmer over the past 40 plus years.
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Old 10 August 2017, 08:53 PM   #9
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Plus the lugs on the crown side of all the Rolex SS sports watches have always been a fraction slimmer over the past 40 plus years.
Did not know that Peter, thanks for the education
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Old 11 August 2017, 12:08 AM   #10
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Plus the lugs on the crown side of all the Rolex SS sports watches have always been a fraction slimmer over the past 40 plus years.
Exactly
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Old 2 March 2020, 12:21 AM   #11
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Plus the lugs on the crown side of all the Rolex SS sports watches have always been a fraction slimmer over the past 40 plus years.
That's fascinating actually, goes to show there is always more to learn about such a simple catalogue. So many easter eggs.
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Old 10 August 2017, 11:57 PM   #12
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Old 11 August 2017, 12:06 AM   #13
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Also, the case on the right (pusher) side of the watch extends a bit beyond the bezel on PM versions.
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Old 11 August 2017, 05:45 AM   #14
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Simple but very costly fix. Spend an extra 20-60k more for a pm if it bugs you. For me I could care less but I could see where it might bother OCDers but it's not an imperfection it's the way they are designed.
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Old 11 August 2017, 06:40 AM   #15
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Sorry if I missed it. Does anyone know the rationale for this? Was it an attempt to foil counterfeiting?
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Old 11 August 2017, 06:51 AM   #16
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Sorry if I missed it. Does anyone know the rationale for this? Was it an attempt to foil counterfeiting?
Thinner lug on the crown side, thicker on the opposite side to "balance" the look, at least that's what I've read.
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Old 11 August 2017, 06:51 AM   #17
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Here Rolexes explanation.

Here Rolexes explanation. Another one of the pluses to having a SS haha. Kidding I never would of noticed any of this if it weren't for the forums. Can't go wrong either way.
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Old 1 March 2020, 09:34 PM   #18
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Here Rolexes explanation. Another one of the pluses to having a SS haha. Kidding I never would of noticed any of this if it weren't for the forums. Can't go wrong either way.
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This got me thinking, so they made several prototypes. So there is a Daytona at Rolex which has the same lugs on both sides.

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Does anyone have the picture or .gif which shows all the differences between SS and PM versions? I have it saved somewhere but I can't find it anymore.
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Here Rolexes explanation. Another one of the pluses to having a SS haha. Kidding I never would of noticed any of this if it weren't for the forums. Can't go wrong either way.
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Quite obvious in this picture. Thanks.
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Old 11 August 2017, 07:37 AM   #21
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The Daytonas only flaw IMHO.
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Only flaw is they are not consistent with the cases but neither case is flawed imho.


And isn't this the same for the other sports models too?

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Old 11 August 2017, 07:42 AM   #23
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Yup one of those things I learned only once I joined the forum. Great reason to go PM with Daytona's.
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Well that's it. I'm ditching my SS Daytona and getting a gold one. I can't live with the asymmetry. The horrors.
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Old 11 August 2017, 08:12 AM   #25
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It's the PM ones that are flawed Rolex designed the asymmetrical case for balanced look but that's a flaw because it's not obvious enough. Kidding they are all flawed. Rolex only designs flawed watches.
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Well that's it. I'm ditching my SS Daytona and getting a gold one. I can't live with the asymmetry. The horrors.
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Observed that the ss Daytona has asymmetric lugs, compared to the all gold Daytona. I am a bit chocked. My ss Daytona confirmed that. I do not have an all gold Daytona to compare. Anyone? Thanks in advance.
Your original asumption that ASYMMETRIC=IMPERFECT is wrong...
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Your original asumption that ASYMMETRIC=IMPERFECT is wrong...


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Old 11 August 2017, 05:27 PM   #28
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Your original asumption that ASYMMETRIC=IMPERFECT is wrong...
I saw the explanation on the Rolex site. Thanks.
It just looks a bit odd in my eyes. The universe is symmetric (IMO), you know. When it is said, I embrace all imperfections in the world. Both in humans and Rolex.
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Sorry to bump an old thread but I can't unsee the uneven lugs now and and did a search.

Why did they do this? It just makes the asymmetry even worse...
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Why did they do this? It just makes the asymmetry even worse...
It's actually an intelligent thing to do. The crown and pushers add weight on the same side the lugs are thinner...

What does that mean? Buying SS is a smart move, compared to PM.

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