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Old 17 September 2017, 02:58 AM   #1
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Ceramic Daytona

Looking to purchase a white dial ceramic Daytona. I was thinking that since this watch has been out for a bit now it would be easier to get, but I called a few AD's and they are not even taking additional people for their lists.

What would be the best way to obtain this watch? I'm okay with waiting a bit but the few AD's I called aren't even taking names. I also looked around on Chrono 24 and saw a few for sale there. I'm okay with paying a bit of premium but I'm concerned counterfeits. Also how much is a fair markup going for these watches now?
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Old 17 September 2017, 02:59 AM   #2
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You'll probably have to pay a 40-50% premium at this moment in time
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Old 17 September 2017, 03:05 AM   #3
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If you are okay paying the premium that this model is commanding at the present time I would do that as that is going to be the quickest way you will get one. Give one of our trusted sellers on this forum a call and they can source one for you. If you want to pay MSRP, I recommend you keeping calling AD's until you find one that will add you to their list. Be prepared to wait a while. Good luck.
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Old 17 September 2017, 03:06 AM   #4
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Unless you're a good customer, I'd forget about the AD route as you're pretty late to the party. If you're okay with paying a steep premium, then there are plenty on the grey market and trusted sellers here. DavidSW has one now, and his reputation is impeccable.
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Old 17 September 2017, 03:20 AM   #5
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Alright got it. I guess if I want to do it, I'll go through a third party. I'll take a look at DavidSW. Thank you!
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Old 17 September 2017, 03:28 AM   #6
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I love rolex, i collect all sorts

Daytonas via ADs frustrate me

Exclusivity or not, feels like they are limiting supply.

Ironic that i love a GMT or sub much more.
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Old 17 September 2017, 03:57 AM   #7
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I love rolex, i collect all sorts

Daytonas via ADs frustrate me

Exclusivity or not, feels like they are limiting supply.

Ironic that i love a GMT or sub much more.
Alanis Morissette kind of ironic?
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Old 17 September 2017, 07:27 AM   #8
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Alanis Morissette kind of ironic?
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Old 17 September 2017, 07:32 AM   #9
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Thanks for getting that song stuck in my head now.
I believe it's like a black fly in your Chardonnay or a death row pardon that comes two minutes to late.

Just helping you along.
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Old 17 September 2017, 07:54 AM   #10
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My understanding is that the SS Daytona has always been harder to get than other SS models through normal channels.
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I believe it's like a black fly in your Chardonnay or a death row pardon that comes two minutes to late.

Just helping you along.
Well with respect to having so many other models readily available...and not a Daytona to be had for years...it's a little too Ironic...I really do think! Kinda like...having 10,000 spoons, when all you need us a knife...ironic!!!
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Old 17 September 2017, 04:14 AM   #11
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I love rolex, i collect all sorts

Daytonas via ADs frustrate me

Exclusivity or not, feels like they are limiting supply.

Ironic that i love a GMT or sub much more.
totally agree, why is a SD43 launch 2017 readily available and a Daytona launch 2016 still demanding silly waiting times.
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Old 17 September 2017, 03:58 AM   #12
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I'm looking at DavidSW and the white dial is $1,900 more than the black dial. I'm in the market for the white dial, just my luck hah.
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Old 17 September 2017, 04:00 AM   #13
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The white dial he has listed is new with stickers whereas the less expensive black dial is worn and withtot stickers. If DavidSW gets a white dial without stickers, it will be a bit less. Good luck with the hunt.
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Old 17 September 2017, 04:03 AM   #14
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The white dial he has listed is new with stickers whereas the less expensive black dial is worn and withtot stickers. If DavidSW gets a white dial without stickers, it will be a bit less. Good luck with the hunt.
Just saw that. And thank you :)
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Old 17 September 2017, 04:02 AM   #15
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Sorry the black dial is in excellent condition and the white dial is unworn with stickers.
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My understanding is that the SS Daytona has always been harder to get than other SS models through normal channels.
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Old 17 September 2017, 06:59 AM   #17
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My understanding is that the SS Daytona has always been harder to get than other SS models through normal channels.
True yes, I was on a waiting list for a white dial daytonna prior to the 2016 ceramic release

2 years I was on that list and I picked up 2 djs (1 and 2), 2 subs, and a GMT in that time

Not even a phone call from the AD in 4 years regarding the Daytona.

I didn't even like the Daytona I tried on (TT panda). Although I nearly bought it.

I'd buy the ceramic Daytona just because I think I neee to add one to my collection. 4 years wait now. Getting silly.


Without waffling on, I can't understand why rolex pedal this model and complication. It's not their crowning glory or heritage. It became popular in motorsport and of course Paul Newman. But chrono was added by all Tom dick and harry. Rolex to me are the makers of the worlds finest divers watches and timepieces designed with such precision and robustness that they can survive in the toughest conditions.

Then of course the president day-dates
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Ceramic Daytona

Keep checking with AD's and know it will be awhile. When it happens you will be very pleased. Hang in there!
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Old 17 September 2017, 01:44 PM   #19
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Considering this. Does anyone of any opinions of it:

https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-11...-white-dial-3/

Never bought a watch over the net before so I'm a bit nervous. Looks like it's new and never been worn, right?
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Old 17 September 2017, 01:50 PM   #20
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Considering this. Does anyone of any opinions of it:

https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-11...-white-dial-3/

Never bought a watch over the net before so I'm a bit nervous. Looks like it's new and never been worn, right?


My opinion is it's 50% over retail. You have nothing to worry about dealing with David except perhaps paying way too much for that watch.


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You could also try Tony Geha at SD Watches. He has a bricks & mortar shop in San Diego.

I'm sure others will chime in but I hear that Tony has a similar reputation to David.

Tony also has both versions NIB and pre-loved, so knock yourself out:

http://www.sdwatches.com/product-cat...rolex/daytona/

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Old 17 September 2017, 02:04 PM   #22
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You could also try Tony Geha at SD Watches. He has a bricks & mortar shop in San Diego.

I'm sure others will chime in but I hear that Tony has a similar reputation to David.

Tony also has both versions NIB and pre-loved, so knock yourself out:

http://www.sdwatches.com/product-cat...rolex/daytona/

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Okay awesome, thank you for the suggestion. I'll take a look!
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Old 17 September 2017, 01:59 PM   #23
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My opinion is it's 50% over retail. You have nothing to worry about dealing with David except perhaps paying way too much for that watch.


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I'm under the impression that in order to get this watch you have to pay 40 to 50 percent over msrp on it. Unless you're on a AD list or something.
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Old 17 September 2017, 10:20 PM   #24
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I'm under the impression that in order to get this watch you have to pay 40 to 50 percent over msrp on it. Unless you're on a AD list or something.


You are correct. They are going for crazy premiums. I guess it just depends on how bad you want it. The difference between waiting to get one at an AD and a trusted seller is almost the price of a used Sub. That's too much for me personally. I was so very lucky and had almost no wait time to get mine so take my advice with a grain of salt.

One other strategy I think is worth considering is see if your AD will bump you up the list if you buy something else also. If you buy the right watch in addition you could flip it for little to zero loss or at least less than what you would pay to get it from a trusted seller. You would be surprised how fast you can climb the list when you start to talk about multiple purchases.


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Considering this. Does anyone of any opinions of it:

https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-11...-white-dial-3/

Never bought a watch over the net before so I'm a bit nervous. Looks like it's new and never been worn, right?
That seller has a good reputation and the price is about right.
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I'd keep an eye on takuya as well. He's amazing to work with and is just as reputable as david! Good luck.
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I'd keep an eye on takuya as well. He's amazing to work with and is just as reputable as david! Good luck.
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Old 17 September 2017, 02:22 PM   #28
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This one at SDWatches comes with the bezel protector and DavidSW doesn't.

Emailed both of them also and SDWatches let's me put my name on the warranty card and DavidSW doesn't. I'm kind of newb at buying watches of the internet. Any help would be great. As of now I'm leaning towards SDWatches, can anyone else speak of their reputation?
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I would say always buy the seller! David SW, Takua, and Tony are all extremely reputable...so your next question is whom is going to give you the best deal for the newest condition watch and accessories? That said, I've done many deals with Tony of SD Watches and they've all gone smooth! It is my understanding that Tony has a Brand New White Ceramic w/ all accessories for $17.5k. If that's true, than seems the price is right under the current circumstances!
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I would say always buy the seller! David SW, Takua, and Tony are all extremely reputable...so your next question is whom is going to give you the best deal for the newest condition watch and accessories? That said, I've done many deals with Tony of SD Watches and they've all gone smooth! It is my understanding that Tony has a Brand New White Ceramic w/ all accessories for $17.5k. If that's true, than seems the price is right under the current circumstances!
Very helpful, thank you. Sometimes I think I'm crazy buying a large purchase like this over the net. But this forum is very helpful and makes my mind rest a bit.
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