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Old 11 December 2017, 10:45 AM   #1
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Advice: 16610LV

I am getting ready to pull the trigger and acquire the 16610LV, most likely from Tony at SD. There are a handful to choose from, however all of them are basically mint & full set(s). It boils down to a handful of serials that don't seem to matter for collecting purposes (M, Z, L I think), engraved vs. non-engraved rehaut, and $200-$800 difference for condition (LN to new without stickers). I also notice a few color variations to the bezel.

If you were in my position, what would you be considering? Any thoughts or input would be appreciated.

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Old 11 December 2017, 10:53 AM   #2
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Morning Sir! The most collectible series would definitely be the flat 4 F series where everyone is going gah gah about it. In your case I would definitely consider the condition first. If all are at the same level of playing field I would get the last in the series as anything in the first and last of a series is always memorable and collectible :) the last series should be M.

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Old 11 December 2017, 03:31 PM   #3
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Morning Sir! The most collectible series would definitely be the flat 4 F series where everyone is going gah gah about it. In your case I would definitely consider the condition first. If all are at the same level of playing field I would get the last in the series as anything in the first and last of a series is always memorable and collectible :) the last series should be M.

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Old 11 December 2017, 01:10 PM   #4
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The most collectible and valuable are the Y serials and early F serials that came with Mk 1 dial and Flat 4. Later F serials did not have the Flat 4 but F is still a good serial number to have for the 16610LV.
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Old 11 December 2017, 01:25 PM   #5
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If they are all full sets and you are going to wear the watch then serial number should not matter. I’d go with the cheapest.
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Old 11 December 2017, 04:02 PM   #6
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If they are all full sets and you are going to wear the watch then serial number should not matter. I’d go with the cheapest.
Agreed. I have trouble spending $15k plus on an LV to wear it and turn it into a $7K to $8k LV
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Old 11 December 2017, 04:31 PM   #7
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Agreed. I have trouble spending $15k plus on an LV to wear it and turn it into a $7K to $8k LV
+1. Heck, while we're at it, I wouldn't spend more on a green watch than a black one, so I'd just get a regular 16610.
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Old 11 December 2017, 01:49 PM   #8
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I love having the engraving in the rehaut in my 2008 Kermit. Apart from the maxi dial, it is one of those little modern details that connects the classic Sub to the new one.
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Old 11 December 2017, 03:26 PM   #9
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Old 11 December 2017, 03:28 PM   #10
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My 2003 Flat 4 with 2003 Submariner PRESS PACK


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Old 11 December 2017, 07:30 PM   #11
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Old 12 December 2017, 03:01 AM   #13
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Old 11 December 2017, 03:30 PM   #14
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I’d go for a 2009 ,M serial, last made


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Old 11 December 2017, 08:39 PM   #15
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Morning Sir! The most collectible series would definitely be the flat 4 F series where everyone is going gah gah about it. In your case I would definitely consider the condition first. If all are at the same level of playing field I would get the last in the series as anything in the first and last of a series is always memorable and collectible :) the last series should be M.

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Y series first LV from 03' not F.

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Random serial last serial made for LV.
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Y series first LV from 03' not F.







Random serial last serial made for LV.


Thank you for the correction Sir!


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Old 13 December 2017, 03:15 AM   #17
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Y series first LV from 03' not F.







Random serial last serial made for LV.


Sorry but beg to differ , the last serial was “M”


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Old 13 December 2017, 04:12 AM   #18
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Sorry but beg to differ , the last serial was “M”


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I believe it was M then V serials followed by the first of the random serial 8 digits which were amongst the last 16610LVs .I'm sure their is as sticky thread in the reference section regarding serials numbers posted by Tools , but I could be wrong & it wouldn't be the first time
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Old 13 December 2017, 04:14 AM   #19
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I believe it was M then V serials followed by the first of the random serial 8 digits which were amongst the last 16610LVs .I'm sure their is as sticky thread in the reference section regarding serials numbers posted by Tools , but I could be wrong & it wouldn't be the first time


Thanks for the info , I’ll have a look


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My piece is a "V".

The last serial should be AlphaNumeric because I asked the dealer to get me this serial but he had run out of stock so I have no choice but settle for a "V" instead.
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Old 11 December 2017, 04:06 PM   #21
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Some good advice here. Personally, I would definitely buy the nicest one in the lot.
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Unless you're going to tuck away a full set y or f serial flat 4 then choose the best piece. Compare lugs, guards, bezel condition and bracelet. Wear and enjoy. They will always hold value. In rarity terms the final batch with random serial numbers may hold a slightly higher value. Don't be swayed by 'full sets'. If they all have papers and tags, you can buy the remaining bits.
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I sold my flat 4 F2 series as it became too stressful to wear it. It's resale value dives if there's a scratch on the bezel.
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Old 12 December 2017, 12:13 AM   #24
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Old 12 December 2017, 12:32 AM   #25
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Old 12 December 2017, 12:44 AM   #26
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Thanks for for the info everybody. Since I plan on wearing it and not making it a safe queen I'm probably not going to go the flat four route. Any thoughts on buying now or waiting 3-6 months to see if prices come down a little?
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Old 12 December 2017, 12:49 AM   #27
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Thanks for for the info everybody. Since I plan on wearing it and not making it a safe queen I'm probably not going to go the flat four route. Any thoughts on buying now or waiting 3-6 months to see if prices come down a little?
Good and bad ideas...

Good not to get spendy on a "collectible" watch that you will wear.

Bad idea to wait as these are going up up and away in price.

The only thing to stop that upward trend would be a substantial economic recession.
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Any thoughts on buying now or waiting 3-6 months to see if prices come down a little?
They're not coming down. Ever.
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Thanks for for the info everybody. Since I plan on wearing it and not making it a safe queen I'm probably not going to go the flat four route. Any thoughts on buying now or waiting 3-6 months to see if prices come down a little?
Prices barring a complete economic meltdown are never going down.
Please don’t hesitate.
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Tbh , I don’t think prices will ever go down , the sooner you buy , the better you’ll save in the long run ( I’d say personally)


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